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Whether you wish to admit it or not, Truckinslave, ANY religious teachings can be perverted to promote violence.

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Whether you wish to admit it or not, Truckinslave, ANY religious teachings can be perverted to promote violence.

Especially when the guy that wrote the book is one of the extremists promoting violence. ;)

That said, I certainly do agree that a lot of Muslims are very peaceful people and not all extremists.

I'm just saying, that the more I actually look at and get to know about the Qu'ran, the more I'm convinced that it's author was one of the extremists.

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Nothing said will convince you the answer isnt Islam, so why ask the question ?

What faith do you think is more likely to encourage violence?

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Nothing said will convince you the answer isnt Islam, so why ask the question ?

What faith do you think is more likely to encourage violence?

Your definition of the Muslim faith is based on the acts of a few terrorists and hardliners. I keep repeating that the actions of the few dont equate to the actions of all. You dont seem to be able to grasp the point.

As for which faith encourages violence, didnt GWB embark on a crusade ( his words )

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It doesnt alter the fact he said it does it. It doesnt alter the fact Tony Blair said he had spoken with his maker on the Iraq war.

Once again you sidestep the point, which is that not all Muslims are terrorists. Just as not all Catholics and Protestants are terrorists, although some undoubtedly are.

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You mean the strawman that anyone claims that all Muslims are terrorists?

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You mean the strawman that anyone claims that all Muslims are terrorists?

"Strawman" thats quite ironic given both the thread title and its content.

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Whats ironic about a thread where a liberal puts forth strawmen? Its SOP.

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A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

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In the last few months, Muslim groups have encountered unexpectedly intense opposition to their plans for opening mosques in Lower Manhattan, in Brooklyn and most recently in an empty convent on Staten Island.

Some opponents have cited traffic and parking concerns. But the objections have focused overwhelmingly on more intangible and volatile issues: fear of terrorism, distrust of Islam and a linkage of the two in opponents’ minds.

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In the Nashville suburb of Murfreesboro, opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer. They are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," said Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area.[SNIP]

In Temecula, Calif., opponents brought dogs to protest a proposed 25,000-square-foot mosque that would sit on four acres next to a Baptist church. Opponents worry it will turn the town into haven for Islamic extremists, but mosque leaders say they are peaceful and just need more room to serve members.

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Whats ironic about a thread where a liberal puts forth strawmen? Its SOP.

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A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

How can you make a claim that it is a strawman? The facts speak for themselves. Protests against mosques for the reason that they will be "Terrorist" training centers or promote "Extremist" views.

How about the following examples:

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In the last few months, Muslim groups have encountered unexpectedly intense opposition to their plans for opening mosques in Lower Manhattan, in Brooklyn and most recently in an empty convent on Staten Island.

Some opponents have cited traffic and parking concerns. But the objections have focused overwhelmingly on more intangible and volatile issues: fear of terrorism, distrust of Islam and a linkage of the two in opponents’ minds.

source

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In the Nashville suburb of Murfreesboro, opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer. They are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," said Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area.[SNIP]

In Temecula, Calif., opponents brought dogs to protest a proposed 25,000-square-foot mosque that would sit on four acres next to a Baptist church. Opponents worry it will turn the town into haven for Islamic extremists, but mosque leaders say they are peaceful and just need more room to serve members.

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Or the may 10th pipe bombing of a mosque during prayer services in Florida?

When was the last time a church was protested? When was the last time a predominantly white church was bombed during services or set on fire?

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When was the last time a church was protested?

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Arson reported at Tennessee mosque construction site

MURFREESBORO, TENN — Federal agents have been called in after someone poured flammable liquid on four pieces of construction equipment early today at the site of a planned new Islamic center and mosque just outside Murfreesboro.

A CBS television affiliate is reporting that it is being investigated as arson.

Carmie Ayash, a spokeswoman for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, said the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department was contacted around 1:30 a.m. by someone who had seen the fire.

Ayash said the vandalism at the site "takes it to a whole new level." A sign on the property, off Bradyville Pike just southeast of Murfreesboro, has been damaged twice by vandals.

"Everyone in our community no longer feels safe," she said. "To set a fire that could have blown up equipment and, God forbid, spread and caused damage to the neighbors there ... we really feel like this is something that we and the neighbors don't deserve.

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http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202470575438

Court: N.Y. Town's Opposition to Church Violated Federal Law
Mark Hamblett

New York Law Journal
August 19, 2010


Funny thing is if you spend 30 seconds looking you can find the info.

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Funny thing is if you spend 30 seconds looking you can find the info.

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Arson reported at Tennessee mosque construction site

MURFREESBORO, TENN — Federal agents have been called in after someone poured flammable liquid on four pieces of construction equipment early today at the site of a planned new Islamic center and mosque just outside Murfreesboro.

A CBS television affiliate is reporting that it is being investigated as arson.

Carmie Ayash, a spokeswoman for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, said the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department was contacted around 1:30 a.m. by someone who had seen the fire.

Ayash said the vandalism at the site "takes it to a whole new level." A sign on the property, off Bradyville Pike just southeast of Murfreesboro, has been damaged twice by vandals.

"Everyone in our community no longer feels safe," she said. "To set a fire that could have blown up equipment and, God forbid, spread and caused damage to the neighbors there ... we really feel like this is something that we and the neighbors don't deserve.

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Funny, I have never heard of the construction of a new church being protested.

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Funny thing is if you spend 30 seconds looking you can find the info.

luckydawg has proven that you do not know what you are talking about, that you are insufficiently informed. The opinions and arguments of such an insufficiently informed person are without value altogether, for they can lead only to erroneous conclusions and wrong decisions and wrong actions.

Instead of acknowledging him being right and you being inadequate, you ignore his proof and continue to promote you own troll agenda. It would behoove you to acknowledge his proof and to eat humble bread and to be silent.