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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 7:44:11 AM   
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In the many years that I have been submissive to women, I have never had an intimate kiss with the women I have served. They use me for their purpose and I am sent on my way.

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 8:04:57 AM   
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You can bet after 24years of marriage and ownership we kiss all the time. But one fun thing Mistress will do is pretend to give me a nice soft loving kiss and then bite me. Usually, when I'm on the cross and very secured to a strong point but, I never really know when. I think she enjoys the play of my energy as I don't know whether to flinch for the bite or relax into a soft kiss. I'm sure she can feel that pulsing through my skin and it just may be delicious. No, not the blood you kinksters the energy! LOL

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 8:07:53 AM   
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I'm not a sadist, and I don't know/don't care what other women do with their property.  I've never had, nor would I want to have, a slave.  Any sub I've had serves me in the same context always:  do what pleases me and leave.  I have never kissed a sub in the same way I would kiss a lover, but I do kiss my regular boy in an affectionate but not sexual manner.  This has been a thought-provoking question; thanks for asking it, WhipsAndGiggles!

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 8:34:41 AM   
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I love kissing.. and if I don't want to kiss you, I'm probably not going to play with you.. or sleep with you.. or make a life with you... and that goes if you're a bad kisser too.. can't stand bad kissers.. it will be a deal breaker for me...

I LOVE kissing

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 8:36:57 AM   
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Do you kiss your sub?  Yes.

What if they're a slave?  Doesn't change anything.

Why do you kiss them?  It depends.  I can be just affection.  If it's sexual, why would I chose not to engage in something that I enjoy?

Have you ever not kissed someone you owned?  No.  Even  the first slave that I had that was completely not a sexual relationship included in the dynamic, I still kissed him on occasion.

If you do typically kiss the person(s) you own:
Is it common? As far as I know it is.  One exception to this are those cases where someone is 'in service to' rather than 'owned'.

Are there special contexts?  Kissing is a pretty wide area.  If you could clarify this, I'd be more than willing to answer.

Are there times you specifically refrain?  Yes.  Some situations are more appropriate than others.

Have you heard of other women NOT kissing their sub/slave? If so, do you feel it's common?  In My experience, it's common enough that I know it occurs, but I don't find it to be the majority.  There are some Dommes out there who have an explicit 'no sexual contact' policy and for some of those that includes kissing.

And.... do you identify as a sadist (to whatever degree)?  I honestly can't remember the last time someone from these boards asked Me that.  LOL.  Yes, I do identify as a sadist.

I'm very interested in learning about other peoples experiences and insights!!

My position on this is rather cut and dry.  If I'm throwing a term around such as "own" that means that I own them to use as I see fit.  I may choose not to, under My discretion, but that's highly unlikely at this stage in My life.   The exception to this would be if they had a hard limit in relation to some type of use of their body or the dynamic was structured that way.  Intimacy for Me does include kissing. 



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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 8:57:23 AM   
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I kiss my lovers on the mouth, and since the submissive men I've been involved with were lovers, obviously I kissed them. One man would get very excited and turned on from just a kiss, because he was so attracted to my lips. It was a lot of fun kissing him, getting him riled up, and then doing sadistic things to him to watch the struggle.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 9:11:40 AM   
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Gawd.  I don't know how I'd manage without kissing her.  Anywhere and everywhere on her body.




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I am not usually romantic with my submissives... but I am still always showing affection, touching, petting, all that. So yes, of course I kiss them.

Time and place, of course! I wouldn't disrupt/interrupt them while serving at a tea or something.

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 9:24:34 AM   
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Hugs and kisses I share with many of the loved ones in my life.

Deep, toe curling, passionate, kissing........that is rare for me. It's something I cannot fake or pretend to like.......unless the person and moment, is just right. It has been a very long time since the person and moment has been, just right.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 9:27:52 AM   
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I enjoy kissing so it is a yes for me.

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 9:46:43 AM   
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I am in a long term relationship with my sub partner. I couldn't imagine being with someone I love and not kissing them to express the passion I feel. I've always enjoyed kissing, but when you have love there it makes it more intense, in my opinion. I can kiss for a long time and get very aroused by it. I have always been able to judge my feelings for someone by how I feel when I kiss them. My partner knew before we met how much I enjoy it, so it didn't come as a surprise to him. I'd find it quite strange if my partner didn't want to be kissed, to be honest, but that's just me. As has been said before, it's high on my list of needs and wants. 

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 10:00:34 AM   
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Ma'am was conditioned from a former partner to see kissing as a romantic thing. Since we're not romantic she wanted to keep that separate. Well...I had other plans. I see kissing as the step before sex or an expression of affection. It's sexy and fun. I don't see why we shouldn't be kissing. So the story goes something like this....

We were in Chicago and I wasn't feeling up to going out that night so Ma'am went out on her own. She picked up a guy but couldn't get a hold of me on my phone cuz I was knocked out sleepy. So she hung out with him, walked around a bit, and came back to the room.

I wake up when she gets in and ask her how her night was. Turns out in her hanging out and walking back she had a little make out session. My feelings were really hurt cuz I'm like "were you feeling gooey and romantic?" "No" "was this a deep emotionally intimate moment?" "No" "was it about feeling sexy?" "Yeah"...."So what gives?!"

So we got past that and now it's a regular occurrence and mostly leads to sexy time ...oh yeah...

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 10:16:23 AM   
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Yep, I agree, it usually leads to sexy time, which is all good, but I'm one of those old fashioned types that prefers to see sex as a show of love within a relationship. I was very glad when I found out my partner loved kissing as much as I do. I like to think he just enjoys kissing me in general, of course. I guess I'll never get fully away from the whole huge ego thing we dommes have, but it's all what makes life so fantastic. 

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 11:32:36 AM   
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I can't imagine being with a Dom who didn't at least give me a goodbye kiss and hug on my way out the door. It's kind of a nice way to end things for the time being.

And being held and cuddles and kissed is the ultimate aftercare, imho.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 11:45:04 AM   
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I can't imagine being in any sort of long-term relationship with anyone that didn't involve kissing.

I love kissing too much to resist it.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 11:59:47 AM   
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OK, I'm not the targetted demographic, but I'll just go ahead and toss in that yes, I kiss Carol... constantly. There's no mystery. I love her so I kiss her. I cannot imagine taking on the responsibility of owning a slave that I did not love. Hell, I can't imagine being in any relationship at all that was not rooted solidly in love.

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 12:31:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipsAndGiggles
Do you kiss your sub? What if they're a slave? Why do you kiss them?
Have you ever not kissed someone you owned? Why not?
If you do typically kiss the person(s) you own:
Is it common?
Are there special contexts?
Are there times you specifically refrain?
If you do not kiss your sub/slave, would you also not kiss in a vanilla relationship?
Have you heard of other women NOT kissing their sub/slave? If so, do you feel it's common?
And.... do you identify as a sadist (to whatever degree)?


I am a savage sadist, and kissing my property deeply while I hurt him and feeling him moan into my mouth is a huge turn-on. 

There are no hard and fast rules to what type of D/s relationship you want to have.  Some people enjoy more distant and formal relationships that do not involve sex or physical intimacy, other than SM play.  Others have a more sexual and intimate style, and others may cross over into a more hybrid vanilla + BDSM relationship.  There is no right or wrong way if everyone in the relationship is personally fulfilled by it. 

I would refrain from kissing if the nature of the relationship I had with the submissive was not intimate or sexual, but more casual, friendly, or a one-off with a stranger at a BDSM party.  The same would apply to professional sessions, where sex is automatically not one of the options.  With my committed and collared submissive partners in a fluid-bonded poly family, there is definitely plenty of mouth to mouth involved in our play.  Outside of it, there is not. 


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 12:41:02 PM   
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Do you kiss your sub? What if they're a slave? Why do you kiss them?  Yes, I kiss my slave because I like to kiss.
Have you ever not kissed someone you owned? Why not?  He is the only one I have owned.
If you do typically kiss the person(s) you own:
Is it common? For me, yes.
Are there special contexts? Nope, pretty much whenever the mood strikes.
Are there times you specifically refrain? If he has been misbehaving, or one of us is sick.
Have you heard of other women NOT kissing their sub/slave? If so, do you feel it's common? I have heard of it yes, but I don't know how common it is.
And.... do you identify as a sadist (to whatever degree)? Not really, I think of myself as a loving dominant.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 5:09:05 PM   
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WhipsAndGiggles,

About the whole kissing thing.  I think this depends very much on the dynamics and type of BDSM relationship.  I know people for whom romance isn't part of their BDSM.  They get romance elsewhere and the dynamics they share with BDSM partners, while still intimate, are a different kind of intimacy that doesn't involve kissing and/or sex.  I know people who are very good play partners and very close friends, and they certainly kiss, but not with the same message or intent as done in a romantic relationship.  Getting to romance then, there are people who simply don't like kissing.  This isn't how they express affection and intimacy.  I had a dominant, romantic partner like this.

Me?  I'm all the way on the far end of the "romance + kissing" spectrum.  Almost all my BDSM experiences have been with romantic partners and I kissed them and they kissed me frequently.  Even while still getting to know someone, if I'm attracted sexually and romantically to that person, it's likely I'll want to kiss them in many places and I enjoy receiving this to.  In general, if given a choice between giving up whips, chains, clamps, bondage gear, and a myriad of other kinky activities/toys... and kissing... I'd give up the kinky stuff and go with kissing every time.  I adore being kissed by my partner.  Kissing is a key way I communicate affection and other, non-verbal things I wish to express so I have no problem initiating and I don't feel this in conflict with submission - not if that's what my partner wants too.  Speaking from both the top and bottom (I was a dominant at one point before leaving the dark side for the lighter pastures from whence I started), I've always kissed my submissives and slaves (and they me) and this has been the same with my dominant partners too.

Elan.

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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 7:01:00 PM   
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Sorry ladies but just for giggles, a macho perspective. I even kiss my car.


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RE: Do you kiss your property? - 8/25/2010 7:26:18 PM   
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Sorry ladies but just for giggles, a macho perspective. I even kiss my car.



You are one of the MANLY men, RS!

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