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Hillwilliam -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 8:25:30 PM)

I mean, heck, we ALL know that there are no right wing domestic terrorists,




joether -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 8:35:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/police-nyc-cabbie-sharif-ahmed-stabbed-after-fare-asked-are-you-muslim/19607768

Roughly one block from his destination, the passenger, identified as 21-year-old Michael Enright, of Brewster in upstate New York, allegedly asked Sharif, "Are you Muslim?" When Sharif said yes, Enright pulled out a knife and slashed Sharif in the neck, face and shoulders, police said


Is this a 'left vs right' issie? I'm sure there are folks on both sides that would argue it. Those that want the two sides (white Americans vs arab-looking Muslims) to fight, causing blood-shed, violence, and suffering. Another side, asking for people to remain calm and patient. Yet, what is really being said of the history of the action(s)?

In a court case, it would be up to the prosecution to prove, this attack was some white guy attacking a muslim (an not just attacking to say...steal cash for instance). No one, besides the two guys in that cab really knows what happen. What is known, is the driver was stabbed multiple times by the attacker. It'll be up to a court to determine fault and penalty, not a mob media. The person accused, is innocent until proven guilty: by trial, or pleading guilty.

While politics draw out our passionate elements, we would be wise to remember, this isn't decided by the rule of mob justice (or some 'debate' on Fox News/MSNBC), but the rule of law.




Marini -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 8:50:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Some people can't discuss anything without trying to turn it into a right vs left fight. It's sad, but I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Personally it is situations like this that make me glad we have hate laws in place. It is sad that we need them, but as long as there are people like Enright running around it looks like we will.




Thank you boi, for saying what I am thinking.
I am so tired of reading/hearing about partisan crap, right/left that I am avoiding these conversations in general and certainly on these boards.

Hate crimes are fucking hate crimes, period.
This partisan shit, is fucking unreal.
Extremists and crazy people are just that, fucking crazy.
Newsflash: we have always had fucking crazy people in the world.

If anything, all the damn news coverage is probably what set the nut case OFF!
Do you think it is a coincidence that this happened now??????


When black people were being lynched with horrifying frequency in the South, years ago, most of the nasty pieces of shit trash/kkk members that did the lynching were Democrats, most blacks are Democrats.

I am going to start a thread one day, on KKK founders/leaders/organizers/ members that are Democrats.

Our country is slowly unraveling, both the Democrats and the Republicans are screwing us, and the idiots that spend their lives blaming the "other" side are not using their "brain" filters.

Wake up people! Look at what is going on in your world, and turn on your "brain filters", we have too many serious issues to deal with period, than to spend your lives blaming those on the "left" or the "right".

I love being a moderate so I can fucking praise/ blame, see the good/bad, in both parties.
It's fucking great to be me.




SorceressJ -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 8:55:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Some people can't discuss anything without trying to turn it into a right vs left fight. It's sad, but I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Personally it is situations like this that make me glad we have hate laws in place. It is sad that we need them, but as long as there are people like Enright running around it looks like we will.



Thank you boi, for saying what I am thinking.
I am so tired of hearing about partisan crap, right/left that I am avoiding those conversations on these boards.

Hate crimes are fucking hate crimes, period.
This partisan shit, is fucking unreal.

When black people were being lynched with horrifying frequency in the South, years ago, most of the nasty pieces of shit trash/kkk members that did the lynching were Democrats, most blacks are Democrats.

I am going to start a thread one day, on KKK founders/leaders/organizers/ members that are Democrats.

Our country is slowly unraveling, both the Democrats and the Republicans are screwing us, and the idiots that spend their lives blaming the "other" side are not using their "brain" filters.


This. [8|]

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Aneirin -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 9:14:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ

This is probably the wrong thread to say this on, but oh well. I mean no offense to anyone of open mind and heart.
Not that anyone will care, or change, or give a damn what I think or have to say about it, but I am getting
-REALLY FUCKING TIRED-
of all the narrow-minded bigoted Muslim-bashing, on this site and elsewhere.
This stabbing is a symptom of a much greater illness.
It's like this, people: most Muslims are peaceful and innocent of wrongdoing. No, sorry, they are not all either terrorists, in cahoots with terrorists, or approving of terrorists, and are no more like them than most Xtians are like the fruitbats from Westboro Baptist Church. They are not happy about the state of war. What happened on 9/11 was not. their. fault. They don't all veil and beat their wives and children. Most of them just want to live, love, work, worship Allah (who I'm veritably certain does not approve of all this war shit either), and raise their families in peace, more or less just like we all do. And IMO, as long as they remain peaceful and law-abiding, I believe that they have just as much of a right to live and be here as any of the rest of us.
P.S. If this post makes me unpopular, I really couldn't give half a shit less. When does the hate stop? Srsly. [8|] [sm=dunno.gif]


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Vendaval -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/25/2010 11:18:54 PM)

Drunken idiot + knife = stabbing a cabbie. Not a good day for NYC. [8|]

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.




WyldHrt -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 1:45:42 AM)

quote:

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.

Well, I agree with the proposed bill from the article:
quote:

The NYTWA is also urging Gov. David Paterson to sign the Taxi Driver Protection Act, passed by the Legislature on June 26. The bill would increase penalties for crimes against cab drivers and requires a sign in all taxis that reads: "Warning: Assaulting a Taxi Driver Is Punishable by Up to Twenty-Five Years in Prison."

I would also like to see it extended to convenience store/ gas station employees.




GreedyTop -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 2:17:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SorceressJ

This is probably the wrong thread to say this on, but oh well. I mean no offense to anyone of open mind and heart.
Not that anyone will care, or change, or give a damn what I think or have to say about it, but I am getting
-REALLY FUCKING TIRED-
of all the narrow-minded bigoted Muslim-bashing, on this site and elsewhere.
This stabbing is a symptom of a much greater illness.
It's like this, people: most Muslims are peaceful and innocent of wrongdoing. No, sorry, they are not all either terrorists, in cahoots with terrorists, or approving of terrorists, and are no more like them than most Xtians are like the fruitbats from Westboro Baptist Church. They are not happy about the state of war. What happened on 9/11 was not. their. fault. They don't all veil and beat their wives and children. Most of them just want to live, love, work, worship Allah (who I'm veritably certain does not approve of all this war shit either), and raise their families in peace, more or less just like we all do. And IMO, as long as they remain peaceful and law-abiding, I believe that they have just as much of a right to live and be here as any of the rest of us.
P.S. If this post makes me unpopular, I really couldn't give half a shit less. When does the hate stop? Srsly. [8|] [sm=dunno.gif]


I'm not a witch, and I agree with this wholeheartedly.




subrob1967 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:24:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Drunken idiot + knife = stabbing a cabbie. Not a good day for NYC. [8|]

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.



It is kind of amazing, now that you mention it, that Bloomberg is adamant about the Muslims first amendment rights where it comes to building a Mosque, but shits all over EVERY NYers 2nd amendment rights to own a firearm.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 7:04:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Drunken idiot + knife = stabbing a cabbie. Not a good day for NYC. [8|]

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.



It is kind of amazing, now that you mention it, that Bloomberg is adamant about the Muslims first amendment rights where it comes to building a Mosque, but shits all over EVERY NYers 2nd amendment rights to own a firearm.



Seems the Liberals, Teapartiers and mainline Republicans are ALL trying to pick and choose what part of the constitution they want to believe in.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 7:38:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Now that's funny. Islam electing a witch as its spokesperson.


What's wrong with witches?

Since we no longer have the evil Soviet Empire to hate we had to do some adjusting.  Substitute Muslim for Communist and off we go.

Hate consumes so much energy and produces nothing useful.




Sanity -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 8:08:32 AM)


Ask the Imam whats wrong with witches... I am sure he will tell you.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 8:15:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Ask the Imam whats wrong with witches... I am sure he will tell you.



Would I get a different answer by going in a Christian church and asking the minister?




Sanity -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 10:42:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009
Would I get a different answer by going in a Christian church and asking the minister?



You hear about Christians sentencing witches to death all the time, do you

quote:



Saudi Arabia: Muslim Courts Sentence ‘Witch’ to Death


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Saudi Arabia is busy exporting its narrow and backward version of Islam – Wahhabism- to mosques and Islamic seminaries around the world. Yet Saudi Arabia is a country where women are second class citizens, and people can be executed for witchcraft. On Friday November 2, 2007, an Egyptian pharmacist was decapitated with a sword in Riyadh after being found "guilty" of sorcery. Mustapha Ibrahim worked in Arar, a city in the north of Saudi Arabia, and was said to have tried to separate a married couple.

http://thewomenofislam.blogspot.com/2008/02/witch-gets-death-penalty-no-botox-in.html








flcouple2009 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 10:52:17 AM)

We can all confirm that the money your mother gave you for the tap dancing lessons you actually used for the lessons.

The question was would I get a different answer for a Christian minister about a witch would I get a different opinion?




Sanity -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 10:54:03 AM)


I was trying to help you "get" the tongue-in-cheek humor that was being banded about fl, didnt want you to miss it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

We can all confirm that the money your mother gave you for the tap dancing lessons you actually used for the lessons.

The question was would I get a different answer for a Christian minister about a witch would I get a different opinion?





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 11:04:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Drunken idiot + knife = stabbing a cabbie. Not a good day for NYC. [8|]

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.



They already have bullet proof glass, the cabbie must have had it open for some reason.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 11:05:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.

Well, I agree with the proposed bill from the article:
quote:

The NYTWA is also urging Gov. David Paterson to sign the Taxi Driver Protection Act, passed by the Legislature on June 26. The bill would increase penalties for crimes against cab drivers and requires a sign in all taxis that reads: "Warning: Assaulting a Taxi Driver Is Punishable by Up to Twenty-Five Years in Prison."

I would also like to see it extended to convenience store/ gas station employees.



Ridiculous. cops and firemen who protect the public yes, cabbies and gas station employees dont deserve any special consideration for crimes.




GreedyTop -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 11:08:57 AM)

wait......

Cops and firefighters DO get special consideration for crimes against them.. it may not be WRITTEN.. but they do.  Are you suggesting that cabbies and gas station attendants are less deserving of the attention of LEO investigators than others?  Cause thats what it looks like to me.




MistressLavinia -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 11:17:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

I am waiting to see how long before someone here suggests that the cabbies start carrying a loaded gun and/or install bullet proof glass.

Well, I agree with the proposed bill from the article:
quote:

The NYTWA is also urging Gov. David Paterson to sign the Taxi Driver Protection Act, passed by the Legislature on June 26. The bill would increase penalties for crimes against cab drivers and requires a sign in all taxis that reads: "Warning: Assaulting a Taxi Driver Is Punishable by Up to Twenty-Five Years in Prison."

I would also like to see it extended to convenience store/ gas station employees.



Ridiculous. cops and firemen who protect the public yes, cabbies and gas station employees dont deserve any special consideration for crimes.


What????




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