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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 5:49:09 PM   
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You can't compare a sick bastards life with Obamas, Your comparing apples to oranges. 


I was responding to the preposterous notion that all lives are equal, posited most strongly by sorceresswhatever. They are not apples and oranges, they are two lives, period. That you think they are apples and oranges merely supports my position that all lives are not equal.

I said nothing about this particular situation, although the attempts by the lefties here to inflate the act of a single person (with liberal leanings no left) into anything more important that that is typical.


What I am saying is my opinion.   Apples and Oranges, yes, just like Ted Bundy being compared to Obama.  Two different things.  Cops, Firefighters, Cabdrivers, Me and many others here are people, we don't go around raping and killing women in their sleep, we deserve protection and rights.  The cab driver isn't Ted Bundy, Ted Bundy to me gave up his rights when he took a life.  Obama cannot be compared to Ted Bundy, again I say it Apples and Oranges.   The cab drivers life is just as important as Obamas, the cops, the firefighters, mine and yours.  I know I don't going around raping or killing, and If you don't, Obama doesn't,  the cop doesnt,  the firefighter doesnt, and the cab driver doesn't, then we all deserve the same amount of protection and respect.
To give someone less respect or more because of a position is ridiculous, and I think once you rape and take a life of someone your no longer in the same class of respect.   



spin it however you like, I gave a very clear example of two lives that arent equal in your, mine or apparently anyone but sorceress' opinion.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 5:52:30 PM   
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That all lives are equal is preposterous on its face, unless you want to reduce all lives to their lowest common denominator, which is that all lives are a bunch of carbon and water worth roughly a buck fifty two including CA redemption value for the container.



I know what you mean Willbeur.

It's the same thing these dumb asses said.

Fucking liberals.



In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


(The Declaration of Independence)

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 6:00:06 PM   
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That all lives are equal is preposterous on its face, unless you want to reduce all lives to their lowest common denominator, which is that all lives are a bunch of carbon and water worth roughly a buck fifty two including CA redemption value for the container.



I know what you mean Willbeur.

It's the same thing these dumb asses said.

Fucking liberals.



In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


(The Declaration of Independence)



Where in what I said was there anything about how men are created.

Oh, yeah, there isnt. Not to mention the belief that there is a creator in the first place.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 6:06:48 PM   
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Thorny, do not confuse the neocons with facts. The FACT that the KKK is considered a right wing CONSERVATIVE hate group and listed as a domestic terrorist organization by the FBI, as well as the Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazis, the American Nazi Party just to name a few other conservative groups they do not want to be reminded about.

Would you please articulate the definition of "conservative" that allows people to claim, in one breath, that conservatives oppose change, and in the next breath that hate groups agitating to change America are conservative?

K.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 6:10:55 PM   
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Thorny, do not confuse the neocons with facts. The FACT that the KKK is considered a right wing CONSERVATIVE hate group and listed as a domestic terrorist organization by the FBI, as well as the Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazis, the American Nazi Party just to name a few other conservative groups they do not want to be reminded about.



I hope you aren't calling me a neocon, because I am certainly not a neocon.
The only reason I mentioned the KKK, is because Dems .and Repubs have skeletons in their closets, not to have a debate.

I happen to be someone that has issues with Dems and Repubs, though I have always voted Dem.
Don't get it twisted, sister.


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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 6:12:25 PM   
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Thorny, do not confuse the neocons with facts. The FACT that the KKK is considered a right wing CONSERVATIVE hate group and listed as a domestic terrorist organization by the FBI, as well as the Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazis, the American Nazi Party just to name a few other conservative groups they do not want to be reminded about.



I hope you aren't calling me a neocon, because I am certainly not a neocon.
The only reason I mentioned the KKK, is because Dems and Repubs have skeletons in their closets, not to have a debate.



He doesnt even know what a neo-con is. He likes to use it because he thinks its an insult

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 6:14:25 PM   
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I don't know what a neocon is either, I just know I am not one!!!

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 11:20:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have known (not friends with just knew of) several KKK members and they were all democrats......funny how some think they are republicans..... of course if you don't know them or bother to educate yourself,  you would assume what you are told by the left media, left pols and left professors to be true. Bill Clinton said at Byrd's funeral  said he Byrd (poor guy being forced as he was) was only a KKK member cos he had to be to get elected (ignore the fact he was a recruiter for the idiots)

thornhappy you don't know what the fuck your talking about..... the Southern Strategy in 68, as taken from wiki:


               Lyndon Johnson was concerned that his endorsement of Civil Rights legislation would endanger his party in the
           South.[21] In the 1968 election, Richard Nixon saw the cracks in the Solid South as an opportunity to tap into a group of
           voters who had long been beyond the reach of the Republican Party.  ....... , Richard Nixon ran his 1968 campaign on  
          states' rights and "law and order." Many liberals accused Nixon of pandering to Southern whites, especially with regard
           to his "states' rights" and "law and order" stands.[24]

As to the poor cabbie  who was stabbed, its a damn shame that happened, it doesn't matter if the idiot who did the stabbing was left or right or apolitical (though he apparently worked for a left group that supported the mosque at ground zero) no one, no matter who they are or where they are from,   should have to suffer idiots who think they can do such.








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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/26/2010 11:44:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know republicans that are both members of and lawyers for the ACLU. What does that prove? That groups may have members from other sides of the line. The KKK and its white supremacist religion backed philosophy is still considered conservative.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 7:11:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		knowing how some people read what they want  into what one writes I should have added that I am sure the KKK   has some republicans in it,  stupidity is not reserved to the left,  it was late, but I still should have know better.

as to the stabber of the cab driver, from yahoo news:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100825/pl_yblog_upshot/ny-cab-driver-stabbed-in-alleged-anti-muslim-hate-crime


A blogger at the Village Voice found a Facebook profile for a 21-year-old Michael Enright from Brewster. In the profile, Enright claims to have worked for a New York-based and left-leaning nonprofit called Intersections International. The company had recently endorsed the building of the proposed mosque and community center near Ground Zero.

not something I made up but something I included only because some say he was raciest and there for it stands to reason he was a right wing nut. again, stupidity is not reserved for the right wing.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 3:21:12 PM   
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The fact that his profile claimed he worked for a Left Wing Progressive group was entered at the Begining of this thread. Intersections International also confirmed his previous employment. Anyone who is actually following the thread and debate is fully aware of it.

But there are several posters, who viscously and with Insults have to pretend he was a conservative.


Or that the KKK supports Republicans. They hate Republicans. And are radical, not conservative.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 6:22:06 PM   
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Would I get a different answer by going in a Christian church and asking the minister?


Yes. Less killing.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 6:28:14 PM   
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cops and firemen who protect the public yes, cabbies and gas station employees dont deserve any special consideration for crimes.


Even when I was a cop I didn't agree with different sentencing for killing a cop as opposed to someone else.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 6:43:14 PM   
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stabs a cabbie because he's a Muslim.


There's nothing to support the opinion you state as fact.


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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 11:08:05 PM   
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I know republicans that are both members of and lawyers for the ACLU. What does that prove? .


It proves that people will sell out their principles for a job.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/27/2010 11:12:20 PM   
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It proves that people will sell out their principles for a job.


Some people, wllbe, omly some.

0bama0, for example, will not sell out his principles (such as they are) for the jobs of any number of Dimocrat Representatives and Senators

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/28/2010 2:17:33 AM   
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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/28/2010 4:22:31 PM   
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It proves that people will sell out their principles for a job.


Some people, wllbe, omly some.

0bama0, for example, will not sell out his principles (such as they are) for the jobs of any number of Dimocrat Representatives and Senators


Not to mention 23,000 Gulf oil workers who will lose theirs because of a moratorium the court said there was no basis to impose.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/28/2010 6:33:17 PM   
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It proves that people will sell out their principles for a job.


Some people, wllbe, omly some.

0bama0, for example, will not sell out his principles (such as they are) for the jobs of any number of Dimocrat Representatives and Senators


Not to mention 23,000 Gulf oil workers who will lose theirs because of a moratorium the court said there was no basis to impose.


Glad to see you understood my previous post was in support of you. Can't believe a Mod misunderstood it.

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RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? - 8/28/2010 8:50:05 PM   
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Thorny, do not confuse the neocons with facts. The FACT that the KKK is considered a right wing CONSERVATIVE hate group and listed as a domestic terrorist organization by the FBI, as well as the Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazis, the American Nazi Party just to name a few other conservative groups they do not want to be reminded about.

I hope you aren't calling me a neocon, because I am certainly not a neocon.
The only reason I mentioned the KKK, is because Dems .and Repubs have skeletons in their closets, not to have a debate.

I happen to be someone that has issues with Dems and Repubs, though I have always voted Dem.
Don't get it twisted, sister.


Eh?  Jeff's a sister?

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