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TheHeretic -> Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 10:44:04 AM)
No, not the White House. I'm pretty sure he'd like to keep that as long as possible, and not the house in Chicago either, though I'm sure he wishes he'd never added the bigger yard that stands as a testament to how he responds to encounters with the corruption within our system. My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? Given the impact of Presidential approval numbers in a mid-term election, such a desire would explain, for example, his completely bone-headed and out of touch comments on the NY mosque. Even his most ardent supporters might prefer to call his unforced errors strategeric, rather than just plain dumb, and indicative of how deep in over his head he is. The 2012 re-election campaign will kick off on November 3. A Republican controlled House hands him someone to blame and make excuses with. It offers a chance to split and re-direct the non-partisan anger and discontent of the citizenry, and increase the heat of partisanship to even higher levels. (Yes, I know he rose to power talking about a different, post-partisan, way of doing things, but I guess he took that position from his own idealistic ignorance - now that he has had a taste of the real world, he slings mud from the broad brush all the time.) With a Repub congress, and two big chunks of his domestic agenda now in the hands of the committees and commissions that will write all the nasty bits into law, he will be set. He can rely on them to support his military (mis)adventures, and let them do the heavy lifting on immigration reform while he claims the credit (think Clinton and welfare reform). Has he already decided on a theme of "divide and conquer in '12," and knows he can't do it from a position of single-party rule?

Lucylastic -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 11:14:37 AM)
Until republicans of any stripe are able to take responsibility for what their "party" has not done or becomes more than the party of "hell no. I think you have bigger things to think about than how to "stick it" to Obama any more. my magic 8 ball says "unlikely"

Sanity -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 11:36:18 AM)
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DomKen -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 12:56:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? My question is why can't you spell? The adjective form is Democratic not Democrat.

popeye1250 -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 1:48:01 PM)
I don't think there's any doubt any longer that he (will) lose control of The House in November. I think at this point the question is will he also lose The Senate as well?

TheHeretic -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 3:44:18 PM)
Actually, Ken, I do that deliberately to differentiate between the political party, and the theory of governance. Don't confuse it with my making use of such nonsensical words as strategery and refudiate, which I use because I enjoy the knee-jerk reactions. Perhaps you have an alternate theory you'd care to offer to the subject at hand?

DomKen -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 3:48:10 PM)
You whine and complain about insults to politicians you like but you can't even properly refer to the Democratic Party. As to the theory, wait until the elections are held before declaring the outcome.

TheHeretic -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 4:08:30 PM)
The theory goes to between now and the election, Ken. Maybe try reading the first post again, without putting your focus on idiosyncratic choices of verbiage.

Termyn8or -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 4:11:31 PM)
Get up on the wrong side of the bed Ken ? Somewhere on the net there are a bunch of supposedly true accounts from a travel agent about stupid people, intended as a joke. However I don't much doubt their validity. Among them are quite a few referring to senators and congressmen. One thought it might be cheaper to take a bus to Hawaii. Another when asked about a visa for an upocoming trip to China thought that meant the credit card. Those two just stick out in my memory, but about half of them were about elected officials. My conclusion is that we elect puppets, and it doesn't take much brainpower to be a puppet. They are not smarter than we, and have no business making important decisions. Is Obama in over his head ? I think so. And so are most of them. A sad state of affairs yes, but now after a few generations have let this bullshit go on unchecked, we are in deep shit and really, there is no way out. Thank you FDR. The fact of the matter is that we must actually lay some of the blame on our Grandparents. When they called in all the gold, that was the time for an uprising. Compared to today people had some backbone, and may have prevailed. Government was not as powerful and was alot more reluctant to shoot at us. Everybody get this in your head. Nobody for whom you can vote is worth a shit. I have plenty more to say, but I don't want to hijack. T

Sanity -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 4:28:08 PM)
Seriously? There are only two theories about Obamas conduct that make any sense. Either hes a complete moron, or he is deliberately engineering our current train wreck because he hates the U.S. Coming from Jeremiah Wrights church as he is, I can understand why some people might believe that his actions are deliberate. Personally, I think that if it were attempted sabotage he could do a lot more damage if he had half a brain. quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The theory goes to between now and the election, Ken. Maybe try reading the first post again, without putting your focus on idiosyncratic choices of verbiage.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 4:45:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Actually, Ken, I do that deliberately to differentiate between the political party, and the theory of governance. Don't confuse it with my making use of such nonsensical words as strategery and refudiate, which I use because I enjoy the knee-jerk reactions. This is also why I've dropped the G from GOP.

pogo4pres -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 4:52:31 PM)
Any one that propagates the use of stratgerey, and refudiate is likely as big a fucking moron as the two originators of the words. Just sayin. Grammatically, Some Knucklehead in NJ

servantforuse -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 5:30:25 PM)
Obama has spent the last 19 months blaming Bush. He will blame the republican controlled house for the remainder of his term. If the economy doesn't turn around, and soon, he can blame anyone he wants to. He will be done.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 6:35:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? My question is why can't you spell? The adjective form is Democratic not Democrat. Its a compound noun, not a lone adjective. Its use was pefectly fine.

DomKen -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 8:35:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? My question is why can't you spell? The adjective form is Democratic not Democrat. Its a compound noun, not a lone adjective. Its use was pefectly fine. No it was not. Learn grammar after you finish learning math.

Kirata -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 9:24:06 PM)
Once upon a time there was a prince who wanted a to marry a Democrat. But then, she must be a Real Democrat. He travelled right around the world to find one, but there was always something wrong. There were plenty of Democrats, but whether they were Real Democrats he had great difficulty in discovering; there was always something which was not quite right about them. So at last he had come home again, and he was very sad because he wanted a Real Democrat so badly. One evening there was a terrible storm; it thundered and lightninged and the rain poured down in torrents; indeed it was a fearful night. In the middle of the storm somebody knocked at the town gate, and the old King himself sent to open it. It was a woman who stood outside, but she was in a terrible state from the rain and the storm. The water streamed out of her hair and her clothes; it ran in at the top of her shoes and out at the heel, but she said that she was a Real Democrat. "Well, we shall soon see if that is true," thought the old Queen, but she said nothing. She went into the bedroom, took all the bed clothes off and laid a pea on the bedstead: then she took twenty mattresses and piled them on top of the pea, and then twenty feather beds on top of the mattresses. This was where the Democrat was to sleep that night. In the morning they asked her how she slept. "Oh terribly bad!" said the woman. "I have hardly closed my eyes the whole night! Heaven knows what was in the bed. I seemed to be lying upon some hard thing, and my whole body is black and blue this morning. It is terrible!" They saw at once that she must be a Real Democrat if she had felt the pea through twenty mattresses and twenty feather beds. Nobody but a Real Democrat could have such a delicate skin. So the prince took her to be his wife, for now he was sure that he had found a Real Democrat, and the pea was put into the museum, where it may still be seen if no one has stolen it. ~Hans Kirata Andersen

TheHeretic -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 9:34:12 PM)
Don't even provide the excuse for the hijack, Wilbur. Trust me, Ken would far rather hammer all night on his inability (or pretense of such) to comprehend my liberties with language than he would discuss the subject at hand. I think he would have made an excellent Stalinist. typo edit

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 9:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? My question is why can't you spell? The adjective form is Democratic not Democrat. Its a compound noun, not a lone adjective. Its use was pefectly fine. No it was not. Learn grammar after you finish learning math. Wrong again, Kendoll.

thishereboi -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 9:44:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pogo4pres Any one that propagates the use of stratgerey, and refudiate is likely as big a fucking moron as the two originators of the words. Just sayin. Grammatically, Some Knucklehead in NJ You might want to spell check your posts before you sign them "grammatically" just sayin'

DomKen -> RE: Does President Obama want to lose the House? (8/29/2010 11:14:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My question is; does he want to lose Democrat control in the House of Representatives? My question is why can't you spell? The adjective form is Democratic not Democrat. Its a compound noun, not a lone adjective. Its use was pefectly fine. No it was not. Learn grammar after you finish learning math. Wrong again, Kendoll. Democrat is a noun http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=democrat http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democrat Democratic is the adjective form. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democratic Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? Why I object: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)

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