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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/5/2010 10:41:22 AM   
lizi


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ORIGINAL: Myles

A fake ( and Im sure I'll hear some crap about this) is a person who Emails you says they are interested, several Emails ensue then a meeting is set up, they say they will be there and then no show.


How does this example define a fake? So this fictitious person who said they wanted a meeting didn't show, maybe they had some last minute misgivings and decided against meeting, maybe they met someone else before the meeting took place with you, maybe they ended up in a hospital. It could be someone with loads of experience and connections in BDSM but this definition of them not showing up automatically makes them a fake? I don't get it.

I'm not posing this side of things to 'give you crap', I'm honestly mystified as to how a no-show qualifies as fake if you don't actually know why they didn't show. They might be a jerk for breaking their word on a commitment to meet depending on the excuse, but I can't see how it makes them fake. So let's say an expert on brain surgery is scheduled for a lecture but doesn't show for some reason. Perhaps their aging parent is ill, maybe they have a hangover, or maybe the car broke down. How does the fact that they didn't show for the lecture make their knowledge on the subject of brain surgery disappear? How did they become a 'fake' brain surgery expert by not showing up for the planned lecture?

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/6/2010 4:07:08 PM   
SirGuy68


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt


In a word... no. Blacklisting is verboten on this site, and for good reason. As for a 'rating' system similar to a web outlet store.... ummm, do you seriously think that people who get rejected for a personal relationship are going to be objective in their 'reviews'? It might work for pros, who are selling their services, but for those seeking a partner or partners for a relationship? *scratches head*
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So getting back to the reviewer list of fakes. Could it hurt anything? Could it help define others opinion of fake that we could then rate against our own scale?
Gee, I dunno. Would you consider having someone that is pissed off at you for rejecting them make 20 new profiles that all rate you as a complete asshole, and having those 'reviews' where everyone that you are actually interested in will see them, to be okie dokie?

As for your friend, she needs to contact support about the stolen photos.



She did contact, several times support. The best she could do was email all of its friends. What about all of its friends who I would assume thought they were talking with and friend requesting a bona fide profile when in fact it was actually my friend's stolen pictures. They wasted their time.

In order for me to 'reject' some body that would at least prove that we do exist. We would have had to have met. As for the reasons they list about me, so what. If I wish to counter that I could and those reading (especially if I knew any one in real life that was also on CM) they would know me and my opinion might hold more clout with them.

The main question is would it reduce the amount of fake profiles that are so abundant on CM and the all the other sights?


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Guy, Guy, Guy......... We really need to work on your quoting efforts. LOL.

Seriously, I'll take on the same one as I always do with you. What you suggest in the above (allowing people to 'rate' others) is already there, in a sense. The Positive Experiences forum is there for all to see. It isn't as though people don't talk about the other members that they've met here.

Truthfully, I don't even see what the big issue is that so-called 'fakes' exist. Do the folks in Nigeria that write soliciting money have a great impact on anyone's life? Why are the people that don't want to meet that important? Find someone who does. It really isn't that hard.



at Lady Pact - sorry but I do not know how to quote from multiple entries in my reply. Too old, too stupid and too tired I guess. We'll see what happens when I preview this and then hit post what changes ;)

One thing I see that has changed is as I get older, uglier and fatter more and more fakes will write to me first. One can apply DUB Delete / Unread / Block.

I had asked you about your idea < It really isn't that hard. > in another forum.

The one commonality I got is it is NOT hard for women to meet guys on line. The numbers are VERY stacked against men, how ever. Of 1,000,000 profiles 990,000 are guys and 10,000 are women. Factor in my age, location, appearance and the obvious fake profiles I see and that will justify my points. When I label a profile as fake I do not mean some one that did not reply back or want to meet me. I am reffering to the plethera of profiles like the Mistress in NYC who used my friends images.

Obviously no Nigerian profiles would (or shouldn't) not have any affect on any thing other than adding to the 99:1 ratio

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/6/2010 4:17:02 PM   
LadyPact


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Actually, My experience in meeting folks isn't that much different than My husband or clip's.  They have both met people that I haven't met, so I can't say it relies on either gender or orientation.  The only possibility that I have left is that none of us are single and you may be.  Actually, I would tend to think that would make it more difficult for either of them than for you, as many people won't meet an involved person without their SO.


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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/6/2010 4:19:29 PM   
SirGuy68


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ORIGINAL: baybeegirl

I had someone who called me fake...even posted about me in their journal! because I wouldn't give him my address to prove I live in the town on my profile. Seriously. How stupid would I be to give out my address to a stranger?


Baybeegirl - If I may use your experience to lend credence to my idea of 'web store' ratings. With your simple statement of " because I wouldn't give him my address to prove I live in the town on my profile" that for me would make this person's review of you sit about one or two chairs to left of the darwin scale. To me, it would have no bearing on you. Perhaps it would help as I would interpret that you have intelligence and common sense. The fuctard who wrote something of you in his journals would now sit lower on my rating scale and I would probably not hold any credence in his future words.




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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/6/2010 4:27:34 PM   
SirGuy68


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Guy!  I'm so proud of you!  You did it!  See, I told you that you could.  

Actually, My experience in meeting folks isn't that much different than My husband or clip's.  They have both met people that I haven't met, so I can't say it relies on either gender or orientation.  The only possibility that I have left is that none of us are single and you may be.  Actually, I would tend to think that would make it more difficult for either of them than for you, as many people won't meet an involved person without their SO.


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Thank you for the boost of web confidence at quoting.... Perhaps you've created a mad man now who will quote every article, book, play, movie ever written and see if I can crash the bandwidth of CM's IP
Yes I am single. Collar me is not a singles meeting place. When I was with my past GF CM up here was pretty sparse for events, community friends. We did have drinks once with 2 couples. If I was single then I never would have met these two couples. Neither myself nor my GF was into swinging though. The problem with group sex is after you are done you don't know who to thank ;)





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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/6/2010 6:14:47 PM   
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In order for me to 'reject' some body that would at least prove that we do exist. We would have had to have met. As for the reasons they list about me, so what. If I wish to counter that I could and those reading (especially if I knew any one in real life that was also on CM) they would know me and my opinion might hold more clout with them.

You aren't getting what I'm saying. With such a system, one would not have had to have met you or even ever engaged in a conversation with you in order to trash you. On Ebay, etc. the only people who can rate someone are those they have had a transaction with. There would be no way to have such control here.

Say a guy sends an insulting email and a dick pic. I usually trash those without replying, but some here will send a reply. Does the dick pic guy get to 'rate' the woman he sent the pic to? Does he get to do so if she deletes the mail unread? I don't think you understand how many women on this site get such mail, complete with drive by insults, dick pics, 'On your knees bitch', 'I'll be in your town next week, come suck me off', etc.

As for being able to defend oneself by rebutting a negative rating, I don't know how much cmail you get, but some of us get a LOT. I have no desire to be put in the position of defending myself every time someone gets pissed because I turned them down or deleted their mail without replying. It would shortly become a nightmare of 'he said, she said', and all kinds of drama.

Honestly, this 'rating system' idea would do no good at all, and would be a right pain in the ass for many here. Anyone who wanted to could create multiple profiles and have them 'rate' each other as an awesome person, or use said profiles to trash someone they have never even met. What value does a rating have, when there is no way of knowing if the person giving the rating ever even cmailed with someone, let alone met them?
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The main question is would it reduce the amount of fake profiles that are so abundant on CM and the all the other sights?

No, it would do nothing to reduce the amount of 'fake' profiles. If one was getting heavily blacklisted, another would be made in about 10 minutes.
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Of 1,000,000 profiles 990,000 are guys and 10,000 are women.

Where did you get these numbers? While there are more men than women, this seems very far off to me. Hell, take a look around the forums for an idea of the gender split.


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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 3:14:27 AM   
VampiricLust


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Status: offline 		Why do people request no male/females when they can simply filter them out?
Why do people insist a picture to earn their attention?
Why do people fall for obvious financial scams through "tributes?"

Fake is simply just another security blanket that one's ego constructs when it has taken a blow. With a shoddy reassurance that obviously this person must be inferior to us in any way. This can even be applied to those messages that never get followed up on, or in some cases, never returned, we instinctively make an excuse for ourselves as if to mend our soul and convince that perhaps we do not lack that edge but that the recipient was too shallow to look past the advantages of the knight when they still possess their queen.

We attempt to build ourselves up as an intricate and complex human, one that has many valves to turn, one that conceals in the cover of the darkside, and one that builds up an image that it's as if to say that our masquerade is superior to theirs. We all, are fake. It is all just who is a master of subtlety, and who is not.

We all think ourselves masterful tacticians in the game of life without realizing that we only advance one square a time; that when it comes to it we are all pawns.

Take that for what you will.  

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 4:11:33 AM   
SirGuy68


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt


You aren't getting what I'm saying. With such a system, one would not have had to have met you or even ever engaged in a conversation with you in order to trash you. On Ebay, etc. the only people who can rate someone are those they have had a transaction with. There would be no way to have such control here.




I awoke this morning to the ebay idea. Ebay removed the ability to comment negtatively on a transaction. I had a buyer who chose not to pay. Then chose to send partial payments. My terms were net 8. The best I could do to warn others was NOT say anything. Ebay does not want the bad press. Ebay wants everyone to be in a Matrix virtual world where everyone here is honest and bona fide and every sale is a good one.
I guess the web will just have to remain a farce.



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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
Honestly, this 'rating system' idea would do no good at all, and would be a right pain in the ass for many here. Anyone who wanted to could create multiple profiles and have them 'rate' each other as an awesome person, or use said profiles to trash someone they have never even met. What value does a rating have, when there is no way of knowing if the person giving the rating ever even cmailed with someone, let alone met them?
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The main question is would it reduce the amount of fake profiles that are so abundant on CM and the all the other sights?

No, it would do nothing to reduce the amount of 'fake' profiles. If one was getting heavily blacklisted, another would be made in about 10 minutes.
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Of 1,000,000 profiles 990,000 are guys and 10,000 are women.

Where did you get these numbers? While there are more men than women, this seems very far off to me. Hell, take a look around the forums for an idea of the gender split.




Although you added some insight:

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
I don't know how much cmail you get, but some of us get a LOT


If the web, specifically women get 900 dic pics, fatter than me, balder and grayer emails and I were to send a sincere email I am now lumped in with 900 fuctards. If 99% of the mail you get is that, then there is a 99% chance that I am so as well. There perhaps is the cause of my delta of writing over the years that perhaps is why an email hello will have no response or why I do not write a monologue of an introduction by email.

I will throw a log on the fire when it gives me some heat. I know that my stove will heat the house if I load it with wood first, so I do. I know that no matter how much wood and care I put into stoking the fire on line I will still freeze so I don't any more.

Too bad you can't use the web like newspaper to start a fire!

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
Where did you get these numbers? While there are more men than women, this seems very far off to me



I just did a search of active in the past 3 days. Typically less than a page of women is returned. Typically 15, 20 25 plus pages of men active in the past 3 days with in a 50 mile radius. Of the page for women if I put in the criteria of seeking a male, typically less than a page and I could count the results on one hand. Factor in of that result two I know (not from CM) are just here looking for work, video sales and money.

You are correct the ratio is a bit off. I am being generous with only 99:1





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ORIGINAL: VampiricLust


. . . Fake is simply just another security blanket that one's ego constructs when it has taken a blow. . . .

Take that for what you will.  



Fake for me is the typical web bot who steals my friends profile pictures. That is the cancer I wish to address and remove.




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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 4:22:20 AM   
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PS I just clicked HOME - I should also add to my above ratio take in to consideration that two are actually the same profile belonging to a guy on CM. Now I can honestly say the number of active women near me in MY searches is less than my dick is long. And you know what they say about Sicilian men with long hair, large feet and big hands . . . . .




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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt



quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
Where did you get these numbers? While there are more men than women, this seems very far off to me



I just did a search of active in the past 3 days. Typically less than a page of women is returned. Typically 15, 20 25 plus pages of men active in the past 3 days with in a 50 mile radius. Of the page for women if I put in the criteria of seeking a male, typically less than a page and I could count the results on one hand. Factor in of that result two I know (not from CM) are just here looking for work, video sales and money.

You are correct the ratio is a bit off. I am being generous with only 99:1



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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 5:46:43 AM   
BentUnit


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Status: offline 		I guess I am a fake!

Yes..bugger it!
I just can't stand the strain any longer..living a lie, day in and day out!

I am NOT a 99 year old Transvestite.

I'm actually a gorgeous, junoesque ( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Junoesque) sex goddess.

To all my faithful and loyal adherents, forgive me for leading you on.

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 6:18:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirGuy68

The fuctard who wrote something of you in his journals would now sit lower on my rating scale and I would probably not hold any credence in his future words.




This is one of the reasons why I've not contacted many of the men who are within a 25 mile radius of my location. Journal entries and forum postings can be an even better view into what a person is like than their profile content. Those that contain basically pure piss and moan/fakes and scammers rants make me wonder how far I'd have to walk on burning coals in order to prove I'm "real". Since I'd be walking in Birkenstocks instead of leather fuck-me boots, I'm sure it would never be enough.

I look at everything a person has to offer...profile, photos, journal, forum postings...and use them to decided if I want to either respond to their email or write an introductory one to them. Presentation...how you (general) wish to be seen by others and how you actually present yourself publicly in an online forum...really is everything.

That being said, I must be a fake because I'm not actively seeking anyone or anything and I admit to having a profile just to lurk on the boards. Amazingly enough, I'm okay with this.

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 6:33:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirGuy68
And you know what they say about Sicilian men with long hair, large feet and big hands . . . . .

They make a mean gaddina catanisi?




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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 6:41:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lizi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Myles

A fake ( and Im sure I'll hear some crap about this) is a person who Emails you says they are interested, several Emails ensue then a meeting is set up, they say they will be there and then no show.


How does this example define a fake? So this fictitious person who said they wanted a meeting didn't show, maybe they had some last minute misgivings and decided against meeting, maybe they met someone else before the meeting took place with you, maybe they ended up in a hospital. It could be someone with loads of experience and connections in BDSM but this definition of them not showing up automatically makes them a fake? I don't get it.

I'm not posing this side of things to 'give you crap', I'm honestly mystified as to how a no-show qualifies as fake if you don't actually know why they didn't show. They might be a jerk for breaking their word on a commitment to meet depending on the excuse, but I can't see how it makes them fake. So let's say an expert on brain surgery is scheduled for a lecture but doesn't show for some reason. Perhaps their aging parent is ill, maybe they have a hangover, or maybe the car broke down. How does the fact that they didn't show for the lecture make their knowledge on the subject of brain surgery disappear? How did they become a 'fake' brain surgery expert by not showing up for the planned lecture?


Agreed, except when you find out the person who did not show up is ok.

Then you know for sure that the person is not a fake, but a real asshole.

Next.

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 6:54:43 AM   
Myles


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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 6:55:58 AM   
Myles


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Status: offline 		when they block you afterwards whan all you want to know is all well and whats up ? go figure

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 7:01:24 AM   
poise


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Status: offline 		Blocking someone doesnt mean they are fake. It just means they weren't courteous
enough to tell you that they weren't interested anymore. Usually these vibes are given off long
before blocking becomes necessary though, except to the stalker types.

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 7:03:19 AM   
Myles


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Status: offline 		far from a stalker unless of course some lady would like to roleplay that scene

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 7:08:20 AM   
poise


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ORIGINAL: Myles
far from a stalker unless of course some lady would like to roleplay that scene

Pardon Myles...I was not addressing you personally, or any of your personal experiences.
You made a broad statement that blocking someone makes one fake. I am merely offering
other alternatives to that scenario. Let the birds continue singing......

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 7:26:14 AM   
BentUnit


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Status: offline 		That's probably why the people I hit on don't respond.
I hate relationship crap!

Why can't saying " HI! You're cute!  Let's fuck!" work?

I mean, people today!

PFFTTTT!

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RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... - 9/7/2010 7:30:45 AM   
poise


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit
That's probably why the people I hit on don't respond.
I hate relationship crap!
Why can't saying " HI! You're cute!  Let's fuck!" work?
I mean, people today!
PFFTTTT!


Takes a closer look at your excruciatingly embarrassing thread.....
does this mean what I think it means? 

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