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Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/3/2010 7:39:02 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Yes, I know that summer isn't officially over until the fall equinox.  Still, there is a part of Me that associates the end of summer with Labor Day weekend.  We always went back to school the Tuesday after Labor Day.  The holiday is usually the close of many public pools and so on.

I'm also associating it now with the change of seasons on CM.  From Memorial Day through Labor Day seems to be one of the disheartening times around this place.  The same as the Christmas/Boxing Day/New Year's time period and again around Spring Break.  I think anybody who has been here for a while knows the kind of threads that increase.  Folks are often suspected of trying to stir things up or are playing games on a parent's computer.  We see silly topics started and say "school's out" to explain it.

This summer, I don't think we get to blame that so much.  A lot of the nonsense that came around wasn't from the usual suspects.  Our trolls ranged in age, rather than a specific group that we expect it from.  Many of the threads weren't even up to the level of introductory BDSM and were the kind of things that made one wonder if google was still a functioning search engine.

We did gain some new posters that have definitely been making a contribution to the boards.  Sadly, this summer had us lose some, too.  That part is a real shame.  Folks that had been here for years are completely missing from our discussion.  Some have left for the most part and will just drop by and make one comment and then be finished.

This isn't a complaint so much or even a rant.  I feel entirely different when I create a 'rant' post.  Instead, I have to admit that I feel a bit sad about it.

I was wondering if anyone else is having the same kind of reflections.  Be that over people who have left the site for greener pastures, noticed the rise in the troll population, or took particular notice of the havoc that was created.  Do you think it was a tough summer on CM?  What do you think our chances are of bouncing back?


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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/3/2010 8:07:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it was a horrible summer here for a variety of reasons.

I don't think we are going to bounce back without an influx of experienced posters. I am glad we got some great new folks, but they are not going to take the place of those who have the t shirt collection.

This is still my online home, and if I only went to P&RS I would be happy. Personally, I am not into serious discussions. I am content yakking with my peeps. It woul be sad if Random was the only good forum; though!

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/3/2010 8:37:04 PM   
purepleasure


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Status: offline 		I agree, it has been a rough summer in CollarChat. I can only hope that our favorite MIA posters will return with the change of season, and school once more is in session.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/3/2010 9:33:21 PM   
mstrjx


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Status: offline 		I see there are those who, for whatever reason, are trying to eliminate this side of CM. If you are successful at eliminating or alienating those that are serious, then the damage you wish to create was successful. Terrorism, if you wish to look at it that way.

And if you do, and you feel that sense of loss and shock that are (apparently) a result of terrorism, what future do you even see?

This forum is important for me for the reasons that it is. I can (and to an extent, have) taken myself and those reasons elsewhere, but those pastures aren't greener for certain.

One thing that I don't agree with, LP, even though ultimately it may come to pass, is that the way you make it sound is as if those with 'x' amount of experience, a generation if you will, can hold the same relevance as those that are younger (either years or experience). It doesn't take all that amount of experience withing wiitwd to be seasoned enough to have a voice worth considering. Whether this would be the first place someone of that ilk would go to become a future leader is questionable.

I will say, though, that depending on what, where and who you believe, some of those who are/were held in esteem on this forum aren't necessarily everything that they seemed. But that is probably true of some here as well.

Do I wish the nature of the threads were more relevant? Sure. Have I heard that there are those who have lost interest in relevant threads because those issues have become passe? Sure. But for the newbies and the lurkers and next year's newbies, they aren't passe. I don't mind repeating myself in new and interesting ways if I can figure out ways to do that. I can probably think up new and interesting ways to be snarky. All I need is a straight man and an audience, and apparently those things never really go away here, just the players involved.

I figure to stay until my relevance dissolves, or until its simply time to pack the proverbial bags and retire. (Assuming any of you thought I was relevant to begin with. Don't crush me terribly fragile ego.)

In closing, I'm glad this thread wasn't really about holidays. They don't exist.

Jeff

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 6:10:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are many that do not post any longer, for whatever reason, that I intensely miss. LadyHugs comes to mind. IB I see very rarely and miss.

There are others, that got their undies in a bunch and went flouncing off, that I used to enjoy but seemed to have had some sort of identity crisis, behaved like dolts, showed their ass and seemed to have a momentary lapse in self realization that they had made fools of themselves...........I don't miss at all. Regardless of how wonderful in person, how much BDSM M/s D/s experience they have. A boor is a boor.

Then there are others that, probably had the experience they boasted of, but were still annoying blowhards and I don't miss them at all. One in particular.

I am old enough to be pretty optimistic about the future with most things. CM, like most things, is cyclic. When it gets crappy around here, I do something else. My life doesn't revolve around the internet, certainly not one website.

Besides, with a few of the egos of the currently missing, I doubt they will stay away for long. They seemed to enjoy the vision of their own typed words too much for that. I remember one flouncing off before and then coming back. I expect it will happen again.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 6:36:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is so wierd LP, I was just thinking this a few days ago. I see this influx of new posters which ought to be a good thing, and in some ways it is, but some of them are just so blatantly here to cause discontent and it's unfortunate that we (me included!) get lured into.

I also very much miss some of the great discussions that we used to have here, it seems more and more as of late that they, along with some of our missed posters, are just gone. I don't know if things will turn around a lot, I do know a lot of people are happily over at Fet, and have no intention of coming back, or so they say. I wish some would reconsider and do both. I am there as well, but I do prefer the forums here for the most part.

I miss MoGa, Shakti, Elysium, Kittsol, Christine, Asher, just way too many to list honestly. Even people that I never agreed with, like Merc and SimplyMichael, started some of the best threads here. Lately it seems as though we have a lack of threads of substance except in the Ask A Mistress section where even though you ladies get tons of wank posters, you yourselves start what I think are the most interesting topics.

Politics and Religion used to be one of my favorite places but lately even that is a big suck with the same 4 or 5 people ranting about Obama or repeating the same ridiculous threads over and over again. Hell even Firm and Treasure, who I so don't see eye to eye with politically, don't post there very much anymore which is a shame because they were certainly worthy opponents.

Even the Gorean threads seem to be suffering the same fate. One or two people starting a zillion threads and hardly any seasoned posters responding. I noticed Thadius never there anymore and I truly like reading his input.

So I don't know Lady Pact, hopefully with the change of seasons there will be a change of some sort here as well. Good topic.

Oh and can the new people please please stop resurrecting ancient threads? lol....thanks!

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 6:42:09 AM   
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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 6:46:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I was wondering if anyone else is having the same kind of reflections.  Be that over people who have left the site for greener pastures, noticed the rise in the troll population, or took particular notice of the havoc that was created.  Do you think it was a tough summer on CM?  What do you think our chances are of bouncing back?



I've noticed less of the regular, mostly heavy hitter, posters on the boards but I'm not really surprised. This seems to have been going on for a while...the quiet leaving. I feel it's just a natural part of life...people have partners, children, careers and life that seems to make their time available for and their interest in the boards less and less. Such is life. I could offer a list of some I miss but I find it easier to to move forward instead of grasping for the past.

Yes, there have been more than a few trolls but let's be honest, more than a few people have chosen to engage these trolls which seems to only enable them. Sometimes the best answer is no answer.
As for the newbie/"I have no idea how to use google" crowd...I think this has to do with more and more people finding it easier to be open about their interest in kink and approaching it much like any other desire, hoping to be given instant gradification or direction without doing any real legwork themselves. Why do a google search when you can come here and ask how to find a local munch (forget that there is a link in the FAQs thread at the top of every forum page).

Do I attribute this to a tough summer? No...I see it more as a changing of the guard in a sense. Less focus on M/s (or what was seen as a "real" M/s dynamic) and more on kinky and fetish play...reminds me of a article a friend sent me that talks about the New vs Old "Guard" change that seems to be happening in the Leather community (which I know very little of, I'll admit, but I found it interesting that the article was written in '08. Seems the general change started a while ago.) The Next Generation I also agree with mstrjx in that it's doubtful this will be the first place a possible future leader would come to learn.

I also have to comment on the havoc mentioned. I've only been around here for a couple years and while I may not post all that much, I do lurk and read some of the nonsense that's happened. I know people scoff at the idea that there are cliques here on CM but, in my very honest opinion, I believe there are. Always have been/always will be. There'll always be those who claim to be more "real" than others...those who claim to be the outsiders (which I find ironic since they create their own little cliques by simply labeling themselves such)...there are the greeters, the clowns, the players and every other group you can think of. Isn't that what makes up a community, though? Yeah, I know...community is another hot potato word around here too.

Any community who wishes to survive and thrive needs to be open to new members...just ask the Shakers. That doesn't always mean those new members need to have gobs of experience or history. What it does mean is that there needs to be an open-minded approch by those of the old crowd to the experience or lack thereof found in this new crop of folks who sometimes just need a bit of guidance and refinement.

This seems to be a time of transition for CM....I look forward to seeing who decides to remain and be part of the new crowd while maintaining a certain je ne sais quoi...relevance and style.

I apoligize for the rant this post has become, I do hope it answers the question, though.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 7:22:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been a moderator on other boards for over 10 years. I've come to realize that these things are cyclical. There are always going to be "veterans" who either get bored with a forum, get busy with life, or otherwise go off and do their own thing. Sometimes a new forum opens and people flock to the novelty. Some of them love it and stay, others hate it and come back to the old forum, and some enjoy both venues for different reasons. However, by splitting time between two places, the significance of the original is diminished and people are less likely to put as much energy into anything that doesn't immediately catch their interest.

I see this happening with CollarChat. A couple of things can happen - either the veterans who are still left will step up and generate the discussions they want to see and never mind the drive-bys, or they will not and CC will dwindle until it becomes nothing more than a handful of diehard regulars talking to/bitching at each other.

I've also noticed that CollarChat is not a hospitible environment for anyone who hasn't been around the boards and/or been doing WIITWD for umpteen years. This is one of the most hostile forums I've ever encountered, including those that were designed as verbal mosh pits with no moderation whatsoever. I've been on the internet for over a decade and a member here for three years. I consider my hide pretty tough and I still don't start threads because I don't want to deal with the assholes who inevitably come in and derail them. If I feel that way after three years, then how must CollarChat look to a new person? I'm not saying everyone has to hold hands and sing Kumbayah, but I've seen people respond to threads without even the common courtesy you'd show a stranger in line at the bank.

So, if the douchecanoes (I <3 this word) are taking a dump on the "serious" threads, then why would anyone bother trying to start one? If there are no serious threads, then the only people starting threads are the twits and trolls who have nothing better to do than stir the pot to get attention.

All of this to say, no, I don't think it's just a matter of school being out that's creating a tough season on CollarChat. I think it's an issue that has been growing and is now finally big enough to be obvious. Whether or not we can "bounce back" depends on several factors including how willing the veterans are to use the Hide button instead of feeding the trolls, to start new and interesting threads, and to answer newbie posts in the spirit of teaching as opposed to telling people to use Google or the Search feature. I know I'm guilty of that last one, so maybe I should check myself first.

I think it comes down to being the change you want to see rather than waiting for someone else to do it.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 9:17:24 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan
All of this to say, no, I don't think it's just a matter of school being out that's creating a tough season on CollarChat. I think it's an issue that has been growing and is now finally big enough to be obvious. Whether or not we can "bounce back" depends on several factors including how willing the veterans are to use the Hide button instead of feeding the trolls, to start new and interesting threads, and to answer newbie posts in the spirit of teaching as opposed to telling people to use Google or the Search feature. I know I'm guilty of that last one, so maybe I should check myself first.

I think it comes down to being the change you want to see rather than waiting for someone else to do it.

I was having this particular discussion with someone recently and I wanted to mention it in response to your comment.

Just recently, there was a thread on a particular topic that's pretty common around here.  It boiled down to more or less the "can you convert a vanilla person" theme.  Current posters were resoundingly saying no, but there used to be some posters on these boards who have done it successfully and were quite happy with the result.  The gal that I'm thinking of doesn't post here like she used to.  (Not one of the ones who are recently dropping from participation.)  Her story is still in the archives and while many folks see the theory as impossible, her posts here prove that it's not.  Just because the current membership doesn't have a positive experience in this area, doesn't mean it's never happened.

I tend to think that is the whole purpose of having threads available for use through the search function.  Truthfully, the best piece (My opinion) on urethral sounds that I've read on this entire site was written by someone who doesn't post here anymore.  I could say the same thing about a lot of other topics, especially in the areas of technical information on play.  Not posts that will necessarily be duplicated because certain folks are no longer here.


PS, I happen to be fond of 'douchecanoe' Myself, but I think I like 'twatwaffle' just a bit more. 


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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 9:32:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan
and to answer newbie posts in the spirit of teaching as opposed to telling people to use Google or the Search feature.


Just recently, there was a thread on a particular topic that's pretty common around here.  It boiled down to more or less the "can you convert a vanilla person" theme.  Current posters were resoundingly saying no, but there used to be some posters on these boards who have done it successfully and were quite happy with the result.  The gal that I'm thinking of doesn't post here like she used to.  (Not one of the ones who are recently dropping from participation.)  Her story is still in the archives and while many folks see the theory as impossible, her posts here prove that it's not.  Just because the current membership doesn't have a positive experience in this area, doesn't mean it's never happened.

I tend to think that is the whole purpose of having threads available for use through the search function. 


I agree, the archives are a wealth of valuable information. For me, the difference is between pulling up the thread in question and posting it with relevant commentary and simply blowing off the new poster with "look it up with Google" or "use the Search feature" without posting anything else.

I remember when there was one poster who could be counted on to pull up a list of past threads that dealt with almost any topic. What bothered me about that person's posts wasn't the fact that xie posted links to past threads, but that xie did so without offering any other content. It was as if xie either was incapable of an original thought or, more likely, that xie considered the OP of the new thread unworthy of taking the time to craft an original response.

I think if the veterans were to tell an OP "hey, there are some really good past threads about your topic, you should check for posts by [insert name of poster here]" and then give some personal insight on top of it, then the newbie would get the best of both worlds without feeling like we're talking down to them.

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PS, I happen to be fond of 'douchecanoe' Myself, but I think I like 'twatwaffle' just a bit more. 



Another fine choice. I think I'm equally fond of both.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 9:48:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sylvere, I may actually have to ask a Mod about that.  Unless I'm mistaken, I saw a comment just a little while back that asked us not to use names of posters that are no longer here.  I could be entirely wrong and it wasn't meant in that kind of context.  I also have no clue if it applies only to people who have closed their account completely or those who have an account, but just don't frequent the site anymore.  I was under the impression that it was preferred to do so by topic, rather than by name.

Maybe someone can drop in on us and give a bit more info.


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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:01:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's true, LP. However, the times I've seen it happen, it's been in the context of talking about a person in a negative context. I've seen other references to the BDSM book lists in a couple of people's signatures that went over just fine. I'm not sure how pulling up a link to a post is much different than saying "look for posts by User X," but then I'm not a mod and not familiar with all the inner workings of the site.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:05:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Twatwaffle and douchecanoe are actually describing two different levels of EW! So use both and enjoy!

The whole not referring to posters that aren't here seems to be a grey area. I think that of course we are not supposed to be DISSING people that are not here, but I think saying "Look in the archives for posts by LadyHugs" should be okay. ~My interpretation, not official~

It's very true that this is a cyclical place, as are all forums. Didn't a lot of folks post madly on b.com? Who does that now? I think that many have trotted over to Fet, and yes, a bunch of us are partying there in deeply stupid and satisfying fashion. We are derailing so hard those rails are getting BURIED!! It is a good thing. It's also not a loss to CM! I am also not missing the boors that LaT is referring to. (I can read her mind, we are Bulgari Twins).

I accept Syl's assessment of this as being a hostile forum, though hell's bell's, what are we supposed to do? I remember one of my friends calling us a bunch of group huggers over on P & RS!! So which is it? I have also read criticism of what we say over on Introductions!! So, be nice, but DON'T offer useful advice on profile fixing, or approaching folks?

I am happy with a lot of the younger folks that have joined us, they are made of win, but the truth is, a few years of experience isn't the same as twenty. The questions a new person will ask are likely to be really old hat to someone like me. That does not make them bad questions, or that the discussions don't have merit! It just puts me in a position of being Old Answer Biddy, and while reviews are refreshing, they are not *expanding*, if you see what I mean. So, I miss the perspectives of other experienced people who do things differently.





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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:10:00 AM   
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I have come to realize- I wont change your mind and you wont change mine.  So- it is what it is-

Meanwhile-  Jefff has the right idea.  Things can be fun.

The summer - or recent past has been heated.   But whatever.  Stick to the lighter threads.  Some threads I simply wont get into.   Because- there is no point to it.

SOme thread tho are quite interesting- and a learning experience.


for what it is worth- the silver boards have been as bad as this place.  maybe worse.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:21:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thread necro-ing. I am on some boards were this is utterly utterly verboten and OMG you will be eviscerated.

If it is a GOOD thread, with discussion that you want to address, where's the harm? Now, I know it was the fashion for spamsters to yank up a random old thread to post their spam, and that's a HELL NO, but I really like looking at stuff from years ago, when it's germane to the new discussion.

Nostalgic, to see the folks that are long gone, too!

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:35:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Twatwaffle and douchecanoe are actually describing two different levels of EW! So use both and enjoy!


So sayeth the Velvety One, so mote it be!

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I accept Syl's assessment of this as being a hostile forum, though hell's bell's, what are we supposed to do? I remember one of my friends calling us a bunch of group huggers over on P & RS!! So which is it? I have also read criticism of what we say over on Introductions!! So, be nice, but DON'T offer useful advice on profile fixing, or approaching folks?


I think those of us who have "paid our dues" so to speak have gotten to know each other well enough that we feel comfortable with virutal hugging. However, to someone coming in, I've noticed a tendency to close ranks and pelt the new person with virtual tomatoes until he or she has posted enough to gain a couple of handcuff icons at minimum. It's like a hazing ritual at a fraternity and equally mature as one. Even after a person has a handcuff or two, some of the worst offenders in the Snarkcapades (Snark Olympics?) still take perverse pleasure in crapping all over an otherwise viable thread.

I don't know what we can do about it, but I can give an example of what I do. I don't usually post unless I have something to say that hasn't already been said by half a dozen other people or a slightly different perspective on saying it. I also try not to post rants. Sometimes, I'll write the rant and then preview it before deleting it. I feel better for writing it, but it doesn't really need to be posted. I make a habit of asking myself three questions before I hit OK:

1. Does this need to be said?
2. Does this need to be said in this way?
3. Does this need to be said by me?

If I can answer "no" to any of them, I usually delete or rewrite what I've written.

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It just puts me in a position of being Old Answer Biddy, and while reviews are refreshing, they are not *expanding*, if you see what I mean. So, I miss the perspectives of other experienced people who do things differently.


I enjoy the responses from Old Answer Biddies, even on topics that have been done. I consider myself moderately experienced, but I'm by no means an expert on a lot of topics. Plus, as my mood shifts and I live my life, sometimes I read things differently than I did last month or last year. What I completely agreed with six months ago, I might not agree with now. Or vice versa. If someone went back and read my old posts, they might or might not be reflective of how I feel today, in this moment. For that reason, it doesn't hurt to have a review of an old chestnut every now and then. The problem is that a lot of newbies just post willy-nilly even when there's another thread running about the exact same topic halfway down the page.

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 10:44:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looking back at Our Bosnian Correspondent and LowNumberSub, what should we have done? I BEGGED folks to not feed those trolls. Do we not point out that hey, that thread is right over THERE?

I've only been here five years. Folks were yipping about cliques back then, too. That seems to be the buzzword for "group where I don't know anyone but they don't instantly treat me like an old friend". I try hard not to snark, and more often than not I just don't add anything if there is nothing cogent to add. I am also not a person that posts far and wide on the boards, so maybe there is some essential thing that I am missing.

Should CM be a giant chat room, where we have greeters? Cripes, I already started the clique welcoming committee!

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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 11:00:59 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		I said this on another thread recently.  In cases like those you pointed out, Hib, just because someone is being a twatwaffle, doesn't mean that it's a complete loss.  The troll in question probably isn't the one that is going to learn anything, but sometimes it evolves to something worthwhile.  Even Tinkerbell/TigerTot, in his attempt to be discourteous to those who attend munches ended up with a thread of folks giving good information about munches in their replies.  What about the dude who was being an ass over a St Andrew's Cross?  People stepped up and gave resources and information on how to build one.  Some (not all) of SNot's threads ended up having some good content, even if it wasn't content he provided directly.  (That fantasy that peon and I started through one of SNot's foolish 'conclusions' turned out to be a huge hit here.)

It's too much of a blanket statement to say that there's no potential just because a thread happens to be started by a troll.  That thread doesn't belong to the OP in any way and sometimes, there are some good things that come out of it.


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RE: Labor Day Weekend/End of Summer - 9/4/2010 11:06:18 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		I agree, there is plenty of potential for good in troll threads, even if we have to twist and yank it out ourselves! How much of it gets to its intended readership, I am not sure! I suspect that others have more fortitude for Ick Avoidance than I do. Plus, there IS that delightful entertainment factor---I don't have to post on a troll thread to get a laugh out of it.

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