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Arturas -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:11:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer Out of curiosity, when you say "Masters only", do you actually mean "heterosexual males only"? If so, you may want to be clearer in your specification. These things are not synonymous by any means. Greetings, The mistress’s point is unclear to me. Be well, master Arturas I believe she is saying that you don't have to be a male to consider yourself a master and wants to know if the OP is looking for "male only" masters or if she might consider a female opinion. I am very sure the OP is discussing male Doms from the actual text of her posting. quote: since then....I have read many, many Dominant profiles.....and so many men are genuine here!.....it makes me wonder if the subby women really have no idea what they want....I am on the side of the Dominant men.

Masterhelp -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:37:17 PM)
While I do believe that there are or may be many reasons I dare to say that you are somewhat right in your opinions as to why. Some are here and are still in the learning phase and some quite frankly are still unsure. We must understand as well that women are naturally not the aggressors and usually in the vanilla world have all of the control over who they see how many they see..they basically set the tone for most if not all relationships in vanilla life. That is hard for them to give up here and at times they tend to want to change the rules here and make it what they want it to be and not accepting the rules and protocols of the lifestyle..after all they have never had to conform..at least not in the beginning. I do see a lot that often do not yet know what they're place is be it sub vs slave or a bottom which may or may not be a sub nor slave so this interferes with the process as well and they may go through more and take more time because they are trying to find they're place so to speak in this lifestyle. Some should take more time learning first before just delving into one and then another. Sorry I got long winded

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:40:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Masterhelp While I do believe that there are or may be many reasons I dare to say that you are somewhat right in your opinions as to why. Some are here and are still in the learning phase and some quite frankly are still unsure. We must understand as well that women are naturally not the aggressors and usually in the vanilla world have all of the control over who they see how many they see..they basically set the tone for most if not all relationships in vanilla life. That is hard for them to give up here and at times they tend to want to change the rules here and make it what they want it to be and not accepting the rules and protocols of the lifestyle..after all they have never had to conform..at least not in the beginning. I do see a lot that often do not yet know what they're place is be it sub vs slave or a bottom which may or may not be a sub nor slave so this interferes with the process as well and they may go through more and take more time because they are trying to find they're place so to speak in this lifestyle. Some should take more time learning first before just delving into one and then another. Sorry I got long winded You speak of rules. What exactly are the rules? I seem to have not gotten that memo, as I have done things my way both here (until I find a Dominant to be with) and in my vanilla dating life, and havent yet had a man complain.

LaTigresse -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:43:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus LOL oh yeah like Femaso's is the only dom on these boards who doesn't give a rip what his woman posts! I don't need to mention a name beginning with.... oh, a letter in the last quarter of the alphabet, do I, to remind you of a festive female poster of the sparkling horsehockey? And then, like a bad penny, one from the very beginning of the alphabet pops up!! [:D]

Jeffff -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:52:28 PM)
I am saddened by all the negative posting here. Oh, wait, no I''m not.............. nevermind

laurell3 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 12:53:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: femasoslave I'm curious....I have read many subby/slave women profiles on here and they have been single for a loooong while....in YOUR opinion....why do you think that is? As a sub/slave myself, I have my own persnal opinion...that is that they have too many restrictions....in my opinion they should be and act sub/slave....which means that they should expect their limits to be expanded instead of being a definate. When I was single and made up my mind that I definately 'needed' and 'wanted' a Master....I did NOT have a list of HARD limits.....i always believed that limits with a compassionate, caring and loving Master can always be expanded...its all a part of the leanring curve to be a sub/slave. Maybe I was naive.....BUT maybe I wasnt....I have now the most wonderful, loving, adoring, romantic, passionate Master one could EVER wish for and truth be told......it didnt take long for me to find him!....His profile said it in spades to me.......since then....I have read many, many Dominant profiles.....and so many men are genuine here!.....it makes me wonder if the subby women really have no idea what they want....I am on the side of the Dominant men...not the subby women who if they were GENUINELY looking for a Dominant man...they would do ALMOST ANYTHING for them. (i wont bother replying to sub women....i am not interested in your opinions) No offense intended, but you seem to approach your viewpoint on many topics as I do it this way and others should see that's THE way. There is no one way. Everyone does what they think is right for them and in doing that, they are doing it the right way for them. You may find some huge pool of wonderful dominants on this site, but I have to tell you, from my side of the world, that's really not been the case at all. In fact, the vast majority of men I have contacted here are dishonest, idiotic, lazy, abusive, insulting and unintelligent. I feel quite fortunate to be in the situation that I am in because I know how difficult it is out there and I KNOW with absolute certainty that it has nothing at all to do with limits. It is possible that your viewpoint and OP are just self-serving garbage that isn't posted for the purpose of generating discussion at all, but as you put it purposefully "stirring the pot" (or more likely you realized later how badly you came across), but you should realize that clouds ALL of your posts here for many readers and I find that unfortunate for you.

masterlink65 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 7:35:11 PM)
most say they want it, but they never pursue it or put effort into it.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:19:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER This is a great question and my two cents is this,all women want the little cottage white picket fence a dog and 2,3 children Nah. Not me. Been there, done that in my previous 'nilla existence. Daddy & I are long-distance now, but when I move to His locale, I'm keeping my own place, He's keeping His own place, and when we're together it will be because we want to be.....not because we have to be. That probably sounds weird to a lot of people, but I like it that way. We may change our minds, but who knows......... ~sweetsub~ ~edited because I apparently can't spell tonight~

gungadin09 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:31:11 PM)
What is wrong with being single? i could happily spend my whole life this way. i could also be happy in the right relationship. But that requires luck and a whole lot of work. i think it's funny when people are suprised that a woman is single. i guess i don't see anything wrong with that. Where are the threads asking "Why are Doms single?" pam

OsideGirl -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:34:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER all women want the little cottage white picket fence a dog and 2,3 children No, we don't all want that.

sexyred1 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:46:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Masterhelp While I do believe that there are or may be many reasons I dare to say that you are somewhat right in your opinions as to why. Some are here and are still in the learning phase and some quite frankly are still unsure. We must understand as well that women are naturally not the aggressors and usually in the vanilla world have all of the control over who they see how many they see..they basically set the tone for most if not all relationships in vanilla life. That is hard for them to give up here and at times they tend to want to change the rules here and make it what they want it to be and not accepting the rules and protocols of the lifestyle..after all they have never had to conform..at least not in the beginning. I do see a lot that often do not yet know what they're place is be it sub vs slave or a bottom which may or may not be a sub nor slave so this interferes with the process as well and they may go through more and take more time because they are trying to find they're place so to speak in this lifestyle. Some should take more time learning first before just delving into one and then another. Sorry I got long winded Rolls eyes. Total nonsense. What protocols and rules of the Lifestyle?? What process?? Another one-wayer bites the dust. Hopefully that was aggressive enough, since you mention that we women are not aggressive enough.

poise -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:48:34 PM)
Was I just downgraded to a mechanism?[:-]

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:48:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas The mistress’s point is unclear to me. This is an odd way to communicate, but I assume you meant me. I do not identify as a mistress of any sort, as I am neither a kept woman nor dating a married man. I don't personally consider it to be an appropriate title for a female dominant due to its negative connotations which are far more submissive than dominant in nature. My point was that gender assumptions - like your assuming that I fall into the "Mistress" category - are inherently flawed, even if they might be correct some of the time. There are quite a number of gay male Masters, and a fair number of biological females, heterosexual and otherwise, who identify as Masters. So if you are actually asking for the input of heterosexual males who identify as Masters, it is a good idea to specify. Not that you can limit who gets to post to a thread on CM based on your personal preferences, but it still helps if you make it clear which demographic you're asking.

sexyred1 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 8:54:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: poise Was I just downgraded to a mechanism?[:-] Were you asking me? If so, not sure what you mean...?

poise -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 9:01:27 PM)
No no no...I meant as a response to reading Masterhelps longwinded response that you had quoted in your post. [:)] I should have scrolled up to it...pardon!

Twoshoes -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 9:12:41 PM)
I like how the OP assumes that finding the right Dominant is a question of Limits... That would make it all so easy! poise, where do you get your endless stream of new forum avatars? And is that a Doberman or some sort of fox-like wolf?

sexyred1 -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 9:21:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: poise No no no...I meant as a response to reading Masterhelps longwinded response that you had quoted in your post. [:)] I should have scrolled up to it...pardon! Thanks. I swear, I am still shaking my head at that response...but then again, after the original OP, I am not shocked at all that some have such an incredibly skewed view of the world as it exists outside their own little queendom or kingdom.

poise -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 9:29:44 PM)
Without derailing the thread...Hello you fabulously happy single ladies! Woof! Its a doberman...and the avatars are from a large collection of b&w photo's that Ive had since forever.....

Twoshoes -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/9/2010 10:05:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: poise Was I just downgraded to a mechanism?[:-] These subs are actually women a who have different preferences, ideas and wants. This concept applies to nearly everyone human. Which also mean's that "one man's unwanted partner/sub is another man's treasure". I was reminded of this when my friend called me 3 days ago to complain that his girlfriend who annoys him with a variety of behaviours. While I was being helpful and understanding, I couldn't help but think how little any of them would bother me. Maybe I'm messed up. Either way, this is about more than just limits or labels unless you're looking for a casual relationship.

Arturas -> RE: Question for MASTERS only! (9/10/2010 9:12:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas The mistress’s point is unclear to me. This is an odd way to communicate, but I assume you meant me. I do not identify as a mistress of any sort, as I am neither a kept woman nor dating a married man. I don't personally consider it to be an appropriate title for a female dominant due to its negative connotations which are far more submissive than dominant in nature. My point was that gender assumptions - like your assuming that I fall into the "Mistress" category - are inherently flawed, even if they might be correct some of the time. There are quite a number of gay male Masters, and a fair number of biological females, heterosexual and otherwise, who identify as Masters. So if you are actually asking for the input of heterosexual males who identify as Masters, it is a good idea to specify. Not that you can limit who gets to post to a thread on CM based on your personal preferences, but it still helps if you make it clear which demographic you're asking. I meant no offense in using the honorific "Mistress" as it is used in BDSM and Gorean communities for a dominant woman. Frankly, it would be rare to use the masculine honorific "Master" for a woman unless one is addressing BDSM doms without regard to gender, as in a paper or book text. Perhaps you intended this. Perhaps not. You did say this which puzzles me: quote: I don't personally consider it to be an appropriate title for a female dominant due to its negative connotations which are far more submissive than dominant in nature. For sure, your perception of the honorific "Mistress" does not match that held generally in the BDSM or Gorean communities. That definition is included below for your future reference. I suppose I could simply always use the term "master" to stay out of trouble but this is also a mine field with a woman who takes offense with the normally masculine honorific. Here is something I am sure is always true: one cannot satisfy everyone in the online world of CM and so I do not try. Here is the definition from Wickipedia references seaching on the term Master and BDSM and how it is generally used: The term "Master" can be gender-independent but is mostly used only in reference to males. There is otherwise no male-specific equivalent. The female equivalent is "Mistress". A dominatrix (plural dominatrices or dominatrixes) or mistress is a woman who takes the dominant role in bondage and discipline, dominance and submission or BDSM. p.s. Wait, wait...maybe "goddess" would work from now on?

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