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IronBear -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/1/2010 9:07:43 AM)
Just as marriage laws change from state t o state in the US, they vary from country to country so it would also be good to hear from those in Europe, Asia and the UK. here in Australia there is no longer the provision to make accusations of adultery or any thing other that an irreconcilable difference requiring a separation. If the parties remain separated for 12 months and have no wish to reconcile the final decree is granted. By law, properties and monies earned during the marriage may be equally divided and if kids are from that union then parent who is granted custody has first choice of buying the other person out. generally and the last time I looked, common law wives are treated the same as legal wives. Another Aussie can correct what I have left out. I thought after three disastrous marriages stripping me of several millions dollars of properties and other assets I'd stay away from marriage. However the right lady came along and we are happily married. She is also a Domme and my partner in our poly home and a couple4 of businesses. So in the worst case scenario I would eventually marry again and it would preferably be to a slave in my collar. As an after thought I should toss in the pot that a number of my close friends and mentors in the Gorean Lifestyle have married their slaves with happy results. In fact I have conducted the pagan side of a number of marriages between Dominats and sub/slaves.

PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/1/2010 9:17:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear By law, properties and monies earned during the marriage may be equally divided and if kids are from that union then parent who is granted custody has first choice of buying the other person out. generally and the last time I looked, common law wives are treated the same as legal wives. Another Aussie can correct what I have left out. I thought after three disastrous marriages stripping me of several millions dollars of properties and other assets I'd stay away from marriage. I don't know too much about divorce law, neither over here in the UK nor back home in Germany (I also barely know people who actually are divorced within my closer friends and family) and are a bit more familiar (though not that much more) with inheritence law. However, a while ago there was an article how (according to that article) a husband arranged for his wife to move from england to scottland as there divorce will be cheaper for him....I found it and it explains a little bit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-514862/My-husband-lured-Scotland--knowing-divorce-cheaper-there.html

lovingpet -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/1/2010 3:02:37 PM)
Neither of us go into relationships looking for the escape hatch. Divorce laws have no bearing on the path he will choose. He is the dominant one, not fear. lovingpet

SirGuy68 -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/3/2010 4:46:09 AM)
Hi IronBear, You have some good points. The life style and marriage in other countries. If one were to get married in a more 'male dominant country' and move back to the states, what laws would govern the marriage? I suppose one would need at least need dual citizenship to argue that I was a married under Turkish law and my wife bores me, so execute her. quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Just as marriage laws change from state t o state in the US, they vary from country to country so it would also be good to hear from those in Europe, Asia and the UK. here in Australia there is no longer the provision to make accusations of adultery or any thing other that an irreconcilable difference requiring a separation. If the parties remain separated for 12 months and have no wish to reconcile the final decree is granted. Regarding adultery, that is the same in the states. (Most states) Your slave, pet, wife mistress can sleep with any one and everyone but judges are not to be swayed by that. Texas is about the only common sense state but even then it can be a bit too much. quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear I thought after three disastrous marriages stripping me of several millions dollars of properties and other assets I'd stay away from marriage. However the right lady came along and we are happily married. She is also a Domme and my partner in our poly home and a couple4 of businesses. So in the worst case scenario I would eventually marry again and it would preferably be to a slave in my collar. Three? You truly are a masochist - lol. Congratulations quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear As an after thought I should toss in the pot that a number of my close friends and mentors in the Gorean Lifestyle have married their slaves with happy results. In fact I have conducted the pagan side of a number of marriages between Dominats and sub/slaves. I wonder if the thought of divorce and the power that be immediately be switched by the courts came to mind before the marriage. A family that follows a Gorean Lifestyle is, to me with what little I know of its protocols, mindset, duties and roles, is more ripe to being completely butchered by the legal system. Be Well

SirGuy68 -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/3/2010 5:06:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox However, a while ago there was an article how (according to that article) a husband arranged for his wife to move from england to scottland as there divorce will be cheaper for him....I found it and it explains a little bit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-514862/My-husband-lured-Scotland--knowing-divorce-cheaper-there.html That article reminds me of a family friend that used to watch my children. And later my aging mother when we moved her and her adopted daughter into the family house on the hill. She was, too be blunt domestic servant bought by a wealthy American businessman. He bought a sub servant wife in the late 80's from Japan to 'help' with his house hold. Think of the match maker on fiddler on the roof. Get your mindset away from love and traditional marriage. She could not have a child so they adopted a child from Korea and when she learned how to file for divorce the attorneys and courts saw dollar signs and they all wanted to get their greedy hands on this man's money. Despite what I consider to be a VERY large and generous payment to give a marriage of convenience and his adopted daughter the courts kept coming back for more and more and more so after he had had enough and wanted to get on with his life and enjoy it he moved to Germany, said screw the US and my daughter and got remarried and to my knowledge lives happily ever after as a German citizen. Sad thing is the hundreds of thousands spent on the divorce did NOT go to the daughter. It went to a bunch of leeches in the legal system.

SirGuy68 -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/3/2010 5:21:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDireWolf I think you need to break off the Poly part of the discussion. Because in my mind it is 2 seperate arguments. Poly is never going to be accepted by main stream America, any old school Mormon and answer that question. If you are going to build a very large poly house with kidlets you are bound to have problems with the authorities. Nothing will change that simple fact. I am not against Poly, just stating my opinion on how the vanilla society is going to view it. Till Next, That is true. Swingers and multiple partners are just becoming ' tolerated' in the states and by society. But add kidlets and poly and that is something that the courts don't know what to do with and it is easier to stop it before it gets to a court of law. I often feel that is a reason behind opponents to same sex marriages. Picture some old homophobic hemorrhoid infested judge having to listen to two VERY effeminate ' gay bitches' lash it out in court with the spectators of the next cases to be heard, the bailiffs the transcribers etc. He t does not have any knowledge on it. There is no past case law to reference. He is disturbed at the thoughts of two men sucking each other off and then go back to his wife of 40 years and be asked "How was your day dear?" If you don't allow it in your state, then you won't have to pass judgement over it.

Adrenochrome -> RE: Marriage, Sub and Slaves (10/5/2010 12:01:55 AM)
I'm marrying my girl this coming summer. She has been my collared slave, absolute property, for a number of years now, and have known each other beyond that for almost two decades. We will be married for the rest of our lives. Needless to say, I think of her as my alpha. We're unlikely to ever have more than a monogamous marriage, barring the occasional play, but she'll always be first in my household -- after me, of course. The decision to have her marry me was painless, worry free, and doubt free.

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