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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 11:11:35 AM   
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I don't know, Willbeur just sent me a c-mail saying he loves your buns of steel.

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Let me know when you decide to quit making pointless personal attacks against both me and willbeurdaddy and discuss the issues of the thread.

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Uh gee Firmy, as I recall it was Willbeur who started the personal attacks and you gleefully joined in.

You can't claim the high road once you've already descended on the other path.





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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 11:57:35 AM   
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Uh gee Firmy, as I recall it was Willbeur who started the personal attacks and you gleefully joined in.

You can't claim the high road once you've already descended on the other path.


Please show me where I personally attacked you.

I may have dismissed your comments.  I may have been snarky.

But I haven't "personally insulted" you in this thread at all.

Oh, and "being offended" because I don't agree with you, and say so, isn't an "insult".

Firm


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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 12:15:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 12:46:43 PM   
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I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 12:54:41 PM   
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I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

Firm


So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:01:06 PM   
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The assumption is that you can think like a terrorist towelhead, and that they're rational. Your comment that if they think they are correct as continuing to incite them to further attacks shows that you think they are capable of rational thought or understanding your value system. I strongly disagree here.

Sam


Their leadership is rational, and extremely good at motivating them, much like the Japanese.

I dont recall whether youve commented on the Koran burnings encouraging more extremism, but if there isnt some level of rationality behind their actions, then that argument against Koran burnings is gone.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:02:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

Firm


So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"

Sounds like it. Presumably pointing out that's a double standard is insensitive.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:03:49 PM   
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You must be kidding. It may be a bit more prevalent amongst the girls on this site, but the libs invented the sycophantic circle jerk.


funny cos you  whiny little bitches seem to be doing the same thing!!
glass houses and that...
you cant back up your dumbass claims or change what you said with what you "meant" when caught..

rebutting the semantic games that libs resort to when they have no other argument is not "changing" what one says.
Backpedalling is not something any of you do well. just blame the dems/libs etc, never happened
The alinsky meme is so pathetic. really truly. never used itYou are all doing the same, I just proved you wrong on thatbut you refuse to see it and trying to be superiorwe are superior when it comes to rational, logical thoughtand it just comes off like you just found out that Viagra gives you a new belly button
accept your failings laddies.





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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:07:20 PM   
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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:09:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

Firm


So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"

Sounds like it. Presumably pointing out that's a double standard is insensitive.

Always funny to see the cons confirm their hypocrisy.

BTW the site in question the land was bought by the religious organization specifically to prevent a more balanced portrayal of the event from being presented at the site. They even disintered the mass grave of those their ancestors killed to make way for their monument to their victory.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:12:30 PM   
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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 1:17:06 PM   
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each alike in dignity,
in fair manhattan,
where we lay our scene..........

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 2:26:00 PM   
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I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

Firm


So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"


Well, contrary to your posse's comments, I have no problem's with you being offended with the building of the structure where the 120 people were killed. 

As you have presented it, I don't consider you a racist or bigot based on that.

You have my blessing to complain about it, and go protest it.

So ... where is this elusive "double standard" that you and your hanger-on's are complaining about, exactly?

Firm


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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 2:29:57 PM   
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So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"

Sounds like it. Presumably pointing out that's a double standard is insensitive.

Your logic meter is busted.

I think people have a valid issue, if they do not wish the mosque to be built near the WTC site.

I think you and your buddy DK have a valid issue, if you do not wish the structure to be built where the 120 people were killed (based on the scanty information provided).

And the hypocrisy is where, exactly?

Oh, never mind. I forgot that the hatred and intolerance in your soul has frosted up you logic meter.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 2:35:22 PM   
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So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"

Sounds like it. Presumably pointing out that's a double standard is insensitive.

Your logic meter is busted.

I think people have a valid issue, if they do not wish the mosque to be built near the WTC site.

I think you and your buddy DK have a valid issue, if you do not wish the structure to be built where the 120 people were killed (based on the scanty information provided).

And the hypocrisy is where, exactly?

Oh, never mind. I forgot that the hatred and intolerance in your soul has frosted up you logic meter.

Firm


Nothing but personal abuse, worded to avoid a mod spanking, then.
What a surprise.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 2:50:33 PM   
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Nothing but personal abuse, worded to avoid a mod spanking, then.
What a surprise.

Can't point out the hypocrisy, huh?

Firm


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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 3:09:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I've been wondering, does this "exclusion for respect" zone extend around every religiously motivated massacre site in the US? Is it the same in all case or is it dependent on how many died?

For instance I happen to know that a religious group has built a worship house directly on land where their predecessors killed 120 people. What should be done?


Go protest if you feel offended.

Be sure to take rml along.

Firm


So its only when its a mosque or is it only the 9/11 site that is deserving of this "respect?"


Well, contrary to your posse's comments, I have no problem's with you being offended with the building of the structure where the 120 people were killed. 

As you have presented it, I don't consider you a racist or bigot based on that.

You have my blessing to complain about it, and go protest it.

So ... where is this elusive "double standard" that you and your hanger-on's are complaining about, exactly?

Firm


You're being deliberately obtuse.

I firmly believe in the first amendment and religious freedom for all.

You and yours are advocating against this mosque and claiming it is disrespectful to build it so close to Ground Zero. So I want to know the conditions for this zone of exclusion? How many people need to die and how big is the area? We've established that for 120 people a worship site 0 feet away does not offend your delicate sensibilities but for 3000 odd, 2 city blocks is too close. So what is the criteria?

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 3:13:10 PM   
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"Can't point out the hypocrisy, huh?"

See post #27. Assume for the moment that McVeigh's attack WAS religiously motivated (at least to the same order as the terrorists crashing airplanes) and try looking again....


Cheers,

Sam

No need to assume-here's a link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/19/arts/television/19mcveigh.html?_r=1

McVeigh was at the Branch Davidian's compound in Waco when it was under siege.

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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 3:38:13 PM   
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Firm

"Can't point out the hypocrisy, huh?"

See post #27. Assume for the moment that McVeigh's attack WAS religiously motivated (at least to the same order as the terrorists crashing airplanes) and try looking again....


Cheers,

Sam

No need to assume-here's a link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/19/arts/television/19mcveigh.html?_r=1

McVeigh was at the Branch Davidian's compound in Waco when it was under siege.


sorry, sam, you're going to have to do better.

All that report says is that he visited Waco while the seige was going on.  Not that he even knew anything about the Branch Davidians, other than that they were being beseiged by the Federal government.

If you wish to claim that McVeigh was someone religiously motivated, you are really going to have to come up with some better sources.

Firm


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RE: There were two mosques in the WTC,when it was destr... - 9/14/2010 3:42:07 PM   
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You're being deliberately obtuse.

I firmly believe in the first amendment and religious freedom for all.

You and yours are advocating against this mosque and claiming it is disrespectful to build it so close to Ground Zero. So I want to know the conditions for this zone of exclusion? How many people need to die and how big is the area? We've established that for 120 people a worship site 0 feet away does not offend your delicate sensibilities but for 3000 odd, 2 city blocks is too close. So what is the criteria?


Now you are just making shit up.

"We've established" nada.

Make up your own criteria. You are going to anyway.

Reduce a moral question to numbers.  You and Stalin are likely a lot alike in that respect.

Firm


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