StrangerThan
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ORIGINAL: samboct
To Stranger Than-
From Firm's post on page 1 of this thread...
"Destruction. By Muslims. For "religious reasons". Thousands dead."
Note the following omissions and implications-
1) By Muslims. Implies mainstream acceptance of the 9/11 terrorist action by ALL Muslims.
2) For religious reasons. Infers that as part of the worship of Allah, Muslims find it helpful to self immolate and take as many infidels as possible.
Omissions- not noting that the terrorist attack on 9/11 did NOT have the approval of Muslims in this country or the approval of the people now attempting to build the mosque.
My litmus test is simple. Ask yourself if you would have the same objection to the "insensitivity" (I must admit, I find this to be weaseling.) if it had been a bunch of Timothy McVeigh's gun toting buddies chanting Khoresh was a Martyr as they flew airplanes into the WTC instead of Muslims. And would you have a problem with a different sect of Christianity building a church in this location?
I doubt it. Hence, although you refuse to don rose colored glasses with regards to Islam, your actions don't pass the sniff test.
Furthermore- your claim that building this mosque essentially sends a positive reinforcement to the wrong people- well, show me some evidence backing up this conjecture. Because that's all it is- a guess on your part. Last time I checked, most of the Muslims in that part of the world seem to equate the US and Big Bird. They have no clue as to who we are or what we are- how could they? Access to the internet? What's the literacy rate? One of the sorriest parts of this whole sordid tale is that the Talibs are running the only schools in the region- get rid of them, and there's nothing.
Sorry- but the real cost of this debate about this mosque is to our own religious freedoms, and whether they're worth defending, not on some nonsensical worry about what some potential towelhead terrorist is going to think or feel.
Sam
I don;'t have time nor the inclination to argue with you tonight Sam, especially over some bullshit analogy that holds no water. Why don't you use DK's. At least he says it has a basis in fact. Of course, it apparently is done since he writes about in the context of what should be done.
Second, I didn't write Firm's post. Nor will I speak for him. He seems quite capable of handling that himself.
As for the McVeigh thing, I swear to God you guys are twisting your panties in a knot trying to prove something that hasn't been stated as either fact or stance. It's worthy of no answer. But I'll give you one. I don't care what religion or group for that matter is involved, if you slay a shit load of people then move in the midst of them to erect a monument to yourself, it's pretty fucking insensitive.
The rest of your post is all assumptions with no basis either in fact or reality. It belongs on the god didn't create the universe thread.
At least there you made analogies that made sense instead of pulling them either out of your ass or thin air.
you can pick which is appropriate.
Gotta work
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