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In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party rall... - 9/13/2010 9:59:23 PM

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Searching for People Of Color.

I thought this was interesting.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 10:12:29 PM

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Ha, everyone is a person of color!

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 10:26:00 PM

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Ha, everyone is a person of color!

I liked the woman who said "We are all American colors.".

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 10:42:44 PM

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I found it funny that there was never a random passerby or person of color in the crowd nearby besides the interviewer and interviewee. Kind of proves the point he thought he was mocking.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 11:12:22 PM

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It seems to me, US blacks are the major group wanting to keep the racial divide alive.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 11:18:00 PM

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You are kidding, right?

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 11:20:04 PM

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I found it funny that there was never a random passerby or person of color in the crowd

Having just watched the video, I can confidently say that you are either blind or a liar.

But hey, that's okay... if you think it's funny at least you're having fun.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/13/2010 11:32:33 PM

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I found it funny that there was never a random passerby or person of color in the crowd

Having just watched the video, I can confidently say that you are either blind or a liar.

But hey, that's okay... if you think it's funny at least you're having fun.
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How is he lying? This video is highly discriminating of its canidates for an interview. This isn't an 'on the spot interview', but one in which the person was targeted mainly for the color of their skin. Isn't that the defination of 'discrimination'? Isn't that being racist?

Look at the background, to the skin color of folks at the gathering. What is their skin color?

The grand majority I see are white (not just the majority, but the grand majority). Its a fair bet from what I've seen, that there's a similar percentage who are very racist in the crowd (whether they show it or not). And that group really doesnt like the minority citizens.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 12:11:08 AM

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This video is highly discriminating of its canidates for an interview. This isn't an 'on the spot interview', but one in which the person was targeted mainly for the color of their skin. Isn't that the defination of 'discrimination'? Isn't that being racist?

Since the purpose of the video was to demonstrate that there are in fact people of color among the Tea Partiers, it's only "racist" to an absolute idiot.

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The grand majority I see are white (not just the majority, but the grand majority).

So you saw non-whites in the crowd then, eh? Well be sure to tell Honest Ken that. He said there weren't any. But hey, I didn't say he was a liar. I allowed that he could possibly be blind.

Moving right along, since blacks make up about 13% of the population and 95% still support Obama (last numbers I saw), it seems to me that blacks could be expected to represent a little over one percent of the crowd assuming that every single black who is no longer an Obama supporter is a Tea Partier. So again, there is no basis for a charge of racism in the simple fact that the "grand majority" of Tea Partiers are nominally "white".

But I'm pleased to see that your heart is in the right place. You keep trying to find those damn racists. You know there's one around somewhere, don't you.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 12:39:28 AM

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"People of Color" doesn't mean only dark pigmented black people.

Sometimes it's "hard to tell" if someone is a "Person of Color". Some of the people interviewed were Indian, Hispanic or something else.

I ran the video one more time to see if there were any "easily identifiable" PoC in the background, and came up with several:

Random Bystanders, PoC:

0:07 (left side, black women in pink top)
1.26 (right side, man walking)
1.47-8 ((walking right to left across entire screen. Has Lime vest one, and stops and looks down on the left side of screen).
1:51 (guy walks into the right side. White T shirt, brown shorts.
1:55 (guy in background between the two guys being interviewed)
2.12 (guy sitting on the wall of the pool, far left side)

Maybe DomKen's problem is that - to him - "Persons of Color" are simply invisible?

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 12:41:03 AM

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You are kidding, right?

I was not really kidding. I have got such impression.
It is not based on the video. The viseo is just Democrat's stunt. One of their tactics fighting Tea Party is to paint them racist.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 12:50:07 AM

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"People of Color" doesn't mean only dark pigmented black people... I ran the video one more time to see if there were any "easily identifiable" PoC in the background, and came up with several

That's why I ran the numbers on black representation. Even up close and in-focus it can be impossible to tell (beyond a guess) what a nominally "white" person's heritage is, and many (if not most) of us have more than one.

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Maybe DomKen's problem is that - to him - "Persons of Color" are simply invisible?

Nahh, they'd be visible if it was a Democrat rally.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 2:10:03 AM

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"People of Color" doesn't mean only dark pigmented black people.

Sometimes it's "hard to tell" if someone is a "Person of Color". Some of the people interviewed were Indian, Hispanic or something else.

I ran the video one more time to see if there were any "easily identifiable" PoC in the background, and came up with several:

Random Bystanders, PoC:

0:07 (left side, black women in pink top)

pink blob with dark hair. Any claim about ethnicity is purely supposition

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1.26 (right side, man walking)

3 possibilities none are clearly non caucasion. the most obvious choice (salt and pepper beard) is at best described as tan.

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1.47-8 ((walking right to left across entire screen. Has Lime vest one, and stops and looks down on the left side of screen).

vendor. first unequivocable person of color not being interviewed. Clearly not a participant but someone selling stuff.

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1:51 (guy walks into the right side. White T shirt, brown shorts.

Yes. missed him.

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1:55 (guy in background between the two guys being interviewed)

Maybe. visible for a fraction of second from 3/4 behind.

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2.12 (guy sitting on the wall of the pool, far left side)

only one person is in described position. clearly caucasian.

Note that the video shows several hundred people in the backgrounds. The population is 17% black (actually higher local to DC.) The difference between the 2 to 4 people of color and the minimum 3o to 50 that should be clearly visible makes the racial imbalance pretty clear to those with open eyes.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 2:27:52 AM

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So, you now admit that there are "People of Color" in the background?

And your argument now is "there ain't enough of them"? (see Kirata's multiple comments)

Of course, this begs the question ... if I had taken your position, and you had found the people, then you would have said that I had "lied".

So ... would you classify your earlier comments as "a lie" or "being blind"?

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 3:46:19 AM

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democratics are allowed to change terms in mid argument, and still pretend they are rational.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 4:18:36 AM

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No people of color...just people wanting to tell the president to keep his hands out of their pockets. I had to snicker just a bit on that one. Is that anything like "Don't let the gov't mess with our medicare?"

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 4:22:26 AM

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I thought it was interesting also. I especially liked the comments and the posts here. Now we will see a switch from "there are no people of color in the tea party" to "there isn't enough color" or "the person pointed out isn't 'black' enough to qualify" for a couple of days.

Next week, it will be totally forgotten and they will have reverted back to "there are no people of color in the tea party" and "they are all racist"

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 4:35:04 AM

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LOL, there are plenty of people of color at Tea Party rallies. The color is WHITE.

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 4:58:17 AM

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The population is 17% black

The last tabulated U.S. Census data (2000) records the total black and black mixed population at 12.9 percent.

For 2009, the estimated (Excel and CSV files) black and black mixed population is 13.6 percent of the total population estimate for that year.

So unh, how far did you have to bend over to get at that 17%?

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RE: In Search of People of Color (at a "TEA party ... - 9/14/2010 5:48:58 AM

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"People of Color" doesn't mean only dark pigmented black people.

Sometimes it's "hard to tell" if someone is a "Person of Color". Some of the people interviewed were Indian, Hispanic or something else.

I ran the video one more time to see if there were any "easily identifiable" PoC in the background, and came up with several:

Random Bystanders, PoC:

0:07 (left side, black women in pink top)

pink blob with dark hair. Any claim about ethnicity is purely supposition

quote:

1.26 (right side, man walking)

3 possibilities none are clearly non caucasion. the most obvious choice (salt and pepper beard) is at best described as tan.

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1.47-8 ((walking right to left across entire screen. Has Lime vest one, and stops and looks down on the left side of screen).

vendor. first unequivocable person of color not being interviewed. Clearly not a participant but someone selling stuff.

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1:51 (guy walks into the right side. White T shirt, brown shorts.

Yes. missed him.

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1:55 (guy in background between the two guys being interviewed)

Maybe. visible for a fraction of second from 3/4 behind.

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2.12 (guy sitting on the wall of the pool, far left side)

only one person is in described position. clearly caucasian.

Note that the video shows several hundred people in the backgrounds. The population is 17% black (actually higher local to DC.) The difference between the 2 to 4 people of color and the minimum 3o to 50 that should be clearly visible makes the racial imbalance pretty clear to those with open eyes.

Okay, just for the sake of debate let's stipulate that the black vs white imbalance at that Tea Party gathering is indeed perfectly clear. So? If you're implying that that automatically means that the Tea Party is a racist organization then you're a racist, and wouldn't have be welcome at any Tea Party gathering I've attended.

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