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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/15/2010 2:47:32 PM   
daddysliloneds


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the best thing you can do for yourself and him is to find someone who is more compatable with you and stop trying to fool yourself that things will change; they might, but for the worse.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/15/2010 5:01:43 PM   
CaringandReal


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetnymph1125


see, i have a dilemma. i'm into REALLY KINKY THINGS, a lot of kinky things and Master isn't. so i asked Him if maybe i could talk to doms online who could tell me to do kinky things and whatnot, like a cyber dom or something, and He said no. i only want an online dom-like-person so that i can get all my sexual frustrations out and be more submissive because the kinkier things we do, the more submissive i am. if we go a while without doing anything kinky, like flogging, spanking, etc, i get...bratty and i feel like a girlfriend, not a slave, and Master then treats me like a gf but expects me to act like a slave. but doing kinky things puts me into that slave mindset, that's why i want a cyber dom.





Tough one. :/

Normally, I side with the "suck it up and deal with it" crowd (and sometimes that is a lively crowd of one) but I only do so when the situation strikes me as a suck-it-up situation. What is a suck-it-up situation? Well, sometimes I get a clear impression from a submissive posting that she is, indeed owned, and that her troubles are like, hmm... waves being ruffled on the surface while deep underneath it is perfectly calm and steady. In those situations, I believe it's best for a person to stick with the situation that is bothering them and bow their head to their master whatever his will may be as they will get a lot more benefit from doing so--even if things eventually end badly--than if they declared themselves independent or attempted to break the bond.

Ok, so I'm not getting that particular impression here. I understand that you feel owned and that you and he consider you to be owned, but normally when a slave is owned lock, stock, and barrel, she doesn't consider other doms, cyber or not, an option, even when she's intensely physically frustrated, has been for months or years, and feels ready to explode from need. She may feel critical of her master, she may think she'd be happier off without him, she might fantasize about leaving him, but in actuality, she goes nowhere without permision, and other doms remain these vague clouds off on the edges of her peripheral vision, they are not much of a reality for her, in other words. Why? Because she's getting her control needs--if not all her sex needs--met at home, and control needs are very important to a slave.

Look, part of the nature of being owned, really owned--assuming there are degress of own-ed-ness, lol--is being so totally fascinated by the cobra sinuously weaving before you that it never occurs to you, beyond perhaps a few minutes of mental flutter now and again, that you could possible want anything else, be anywhere else, do anything else...of significance. (There's a song about that. But then, there's a song about everything. Almost.) One of the reasons why ownership is real, why it actually works in a day and age when anybody can freely walk away from anything, is because some people know how to entrance and imprison with nothing but their personalities. Often, someone who really is owned doesn't walk not because she's such a miracle of virtuous submission and not because she is gloriously happy (although that is more often than not the case) but becuase her owner has taken care to keep her mind close at hand, deep in his pocket so to speak. The way you wrote your post is not the way someone in this situation normally writes, and I take my cue from that.

I see two good options before you. And yes, I do see you as very much having a free choice about this, and I think you see yourself that way too.

Option the First: This is the harder of the two. Choose of your own free will to "suck it up," to bow your head to your master's wishes and desires, and see what you can learn from this. No, I don't think that you will be rewarded with more kinky sex or that this situation will get any better for you, but I think there is a wonderful opportunity to learn some very interesting things if you take this route. People are always exposed to very valuable learning opportunities in times of hardship, and this would be a time of hardship for you, of that I have no doubt. But working to overcome your rebellion, working to to submit more--even if you feel as though you are submitting to the wrong person--can teach you more about your strong and weak points than five times as much experience spent gliding happily and conflict-free through life. So if you do this, do it for yourself. Don't do it for him, don't do it to be a better submissive. You're at an age where learning new things comes easy and where you have far more opportunities to learn than you will later down the life road, when you are restricted by obligations, responsibilities, and attitudes that are hard to unlearn. So maybe you could teach yourself something about yourself: like how much you really want to submit, how much are you capable of submitting, even when it is hard as hell to do so.

Option the Second: Admit consciously that you two are sexually incompatible. Admit consciously that he doesn't hold you, own you, at least not in the ways I've described above. That is no failing on either of your parts, it just means you two are incompatible. Join the club--I believe everybody giving you advice here has felt that toward someone else at one time or another in their lives. Cleanly break away from him, with as little pain or grief as possible. And then, only then, start looking for a kinkier master.

If you waffle between these two positions you might find yourself doing something much worse, like cheating on him in a way that will really hurt him when he finds out or turning into a shrew out of sheer frustration. These things will hurt you too. Try to avoid them if you can.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/15/2010 5:21:45 PM   
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I think what you're feeling is valid, however, it's not as if it's someone's fault. It could be just an issue of incompatibility.

I would talk to him first and explain your needs to him, and see what comes back.

I would also echo what LadyPact said in so many words; at this time in your life, you may want to consider exploring other avenues.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/15/2010 5:38:00 PM   
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Sweetnymph1125,
You ask a fair question.  I have to admit that I've been there before.  My situation wasn't exactly the same as yours, but it was similar.

As a sub/slave, it is often difficult to find a Dom/Domme.  We can often go years without finding one.  Once we do, we can be so happy to finally be with a Dom/Domme that we become too willing to overlook obvious deficiencies in the relationship.  In our mind, we know that they are not our ideal Dom/Domme, but less-than-ideal is better than no Dom/Domme at all, so we settle.  We ignore the obvious points of incompatibility, and we pretend like everything is just great, even though deep down we know that it isn't.

You have three options.
  1. Accept things the way they are, and just live without the kink.
  2. Try to get him to change (good luck with that).
  3. Change your own situation and find a Dom who is more compatible with you.
Because of your age, I would suggest option #3.  You have plenty of time.  You have your whole life ahead of you.  You don't have to compromise right now.  Now is the time to be selfish, and to focus on what YOU want.  Later in life, you will enter a phase where your life will consist of NOTHING BUT COMPROMISE.  It's called "marriage".  But until that time comes, try to find someone who meets your needs.  It's okay to be selfish at this stage in your life.  You are still exploring and trying to understand who you are and what you enjoy.  Don't settle for something that you don't enjoy. 

Good luck.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/28/2010 8:39:11 PM   
POC


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I would have to agree with you... I have been introduced to this lifestyle for about 4 years now and only really tried to live it a few times most of the time the Dom was looking for a "ego" boost if you know what i mean. What i am getting and feel is that if the sub is a true sub for that Dom then I wants should never be a issue it should be what do you want and when the Maseter has gottten we subs request if the request is denied we MUST respect that. However if we feel taht our request and needs are not met then thats when you should talk more about it if your needs still are not met then ask is this the right DOm for me you may love your Dom but is that enough to make up for the neglected feelings if yes then drop the discussion and further you relationship if not then ask for a release.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/28/2010 8:55:24 PM   
FredW


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I hate to say this, because you seem to be happy with this Dom, but there are levels to this lifestyle and you seem to be on a different level than He is. Maybe you would be happier if you found a new Dom.

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/28/2010 9:00:19 PM   
Zevar


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetnymph1125

ok, so i'm not very new to this, i've been owned for 2 years now, but i'm STILL having problems submitting and obeying. i want to know if it's just me or if maybe Master is doing something wrong/could be doing more to get me to be more submissive.

see, i have a dilemma. i'm into REALLY KINKY THINGS, a lot of kinky things and Master isn't. so i asked Him if maybe i could talk to doms online who could tell me to do kinky things and whatnot, like a cyber dom or something, and He said no. i only want an online dom-like-person so that i can get all my sexual frustrations out and be more submissive because the kinkier things we do, the more submissive i am. if we go a while without doing anything kinky, like flogging, spanking, etc, i get...bratty and i feel like a girlfriend, not a slave, and Master then treats me like a gf but expects me to act like a slave. but doing kinky things puts me into that slave mindset, that's why i want a cyber dom.

ugh i'm so confused.

i'm happy with Master and i love Him and i'll never leave him, but come on. i need some kink!!

is this just me being a bad slave? or do i have a point??


Do yourself a favor. Don’t bemoan, whine or complain any longer! Get really honest with yourself first. Decide to ask for a time to speak with your current Master. Show up when you both agree to talk. Withhold nothing! Speak totally honest with your current Master about all that you know to be true for you right where you now in your life. Accept the outcome. Find your luggage and begin to pack, if you live with him that is. Venture on down the road in your journey that is unique to only you and engage in all of the Kink that your heart desires, without your current Master that is. See that wasn’t so difficult now was it? Cake and eat it too girl, right? Not always an option sweetie. Wear comfortable shoes as the road ahead has many bumps, curves and rugged spots. Oh yes, toss those loaded "I want what I want and I want it now" it will save you lots of heartache as you journey. Welcome to Life!

Take care!

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RE: new-ish slave with problems, experienced doms and s... - 9/29/2010 5:36:21 AM   
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quote:

ok, so i'm not very new to this, i've been owned for 2 years now, but i'm STILL having problems submitting and obeying. i want to know if it's just me or if maybe Master is doing something wrong/could be doing more to get me to be more submissive.

see, i have a dilemma. i'm into REALLY KINKY THINGS, a lot of kinky things and Master isn't. so i asked Him if maybe i could talk to doms online who could tell me to do kinky things and whatnot, like a cyber dom or something, and He said no. i only want an online dom-like-person so that i can get all my sexual frustrations out and be more submissive because the kinkier things we do, the more submissive i am. if we go a while without doing anything kinky, like flogging, spanking, etc, i get...bratty and i feel like a girlfriend, not a slave, and Master then treats me like a gf but expects me to act like a slave. but doing kinky things puts me into that slave mindset, that's why i want a cyber dom.

ugh i'm so confused.

i'm happy with Master and i love Him and i'll never leave him, but come on. i need some kink!!

nymph,

you have received some really good observations from some good people. Bottom line, you have no Master; you do have a boyfriend!
You yearn for kink.......then move on, tis simple as that. On line will help but in the long run you need the Dominant male.

CP

is this just me being a bad slave? or do i have a point??

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