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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 2:20:15 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		There is no larger issue here ? OK let's just see now. Pleading poverty, well this Termy ain't quite done yet. I have a laser printer and my eyes are good enough to type. I also have a laminating machine here and an expert on un-painable materials as well as what are termed "very aggressive" adhesives. I also have a nice 36' type one ladder.

Sign sign, everywhere a sign, so I got me..... well you know.

VISIT COLLARME.COM ! THE LARGEST KINK COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD !
CHECK OUT OUR MEMBER'S PROFILES, [insert names especially selected]

Right on one of their poles that We The People paid for.

Now, CM has no knowledge of this nor condones or supports it in any way. The site administrators/owners have no knowledge of this, and just suppose none of them ever set foot in this state. Given my history, there would probably be a 1/1,000 th chance that I would be caught in the act, of course leaving no DNA or fingerprints, it cannot be traced to me by any means. ANY means, they can't even trace the plates on my car, so even 24/7 camera surveilence would be innefective.

So the only thig they have to go on is the link. CM does not give out or sell such a sign to my knowledge, or do they loan out signs. But somehow they seem to have commited a crime in this state possibly from thousands of miles away. And to boot, has anyone ever heard of CM hiring anyone even to make signs and post them anywhere ? Of course they might have a banner on other sites on the net, most likely adult sites I would say, but that is not the same thing.

In other words for the feeble minded, they did not do it and they have an airtight alibi. Even prosecuting under the RICO act requires some evidence. Would or should my membership here constitute sufficient evidence ?

I WANT TO SEE ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH MY POINT (if they have the capacity to understand it) TO PUT UP A COGENT ARGUMENT. Or are they coming to a battle of wits unarmed ?

Incidentally, for those linguistically challenged, I did not cal MN ignorant, that is a noun. Ignorance is a property I reported in the childish retort provided by same (on this issue only). And this applies to one person who has responded that having my posts read out loud would constitute torture.

So Ron, you up to it ? Can you tell me how, for example I could be in California somewhere commiting a crime in Delaware ? If you can do that I will call you a pretty fart smeller.....errr, you know what I mean. Don't you ?

I'll be waiting.

Hunky, perhaps that post was dumb. Akin to fiddling while Rome burns, know what I mean ? If these are the responses you get, maybe it's just a whisper in front of a jet engine at full throttle. I know I said I would never put anyone on ignore, but these disruptions are a bit annoying y'know ? Some people really would be happier talking about the NFL or Bush vs. Obama.

T

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 3:17:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the posting on info war's website was 100% factual and had no bias whatsoever. Yes, you are so right, how dare the evil empire of Delaware have a problem with a large sign. Yes, by the picture on infowar's website, it is a large sign. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually enforce one of it's law's. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually have a slight concern for safety. Because I'm sure given the size and shape of that sign and the proximity to the road, there was absolutely no chance of that sign coming loose and shifting, and possibly causing an accident. Nope, I'm sure that sign was put up with the utmost of care and consideration.

No wait, I'm sorry, I can't keep lying forever, yes it's true, I know. I live here. Every night flocks of black helicopters take flight regardless of the weather armed with their search lights carefully examining each and every utility pole. First it's a warning, next it's a fine, 3rd offense? No one knows, the guilty party is taken away never to be seen or heard from again.

For the record, check your respective state law's - most likely you have the same or at least a very similar law on your books. As for me, I prefer to drive on roads without unnecessary hazards. And by that picture, that is exactly what it looks like to me.

As for what I think as a resident of this state? No Delaware did not step over it's limit. I don't care if I paid for that utility pole with my tax dollars or not, it's not a free sign post, it's a pole used to keep power lines off the road. This is not a violation of someone's free speech, it's a piece of shit sign tacked up poorly that could actually cause an accident.

I swear some people just want to spend their days pissed off.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 3:29:56 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		-  It is troubling that people forget what the constitution is.

A warrant for ones arrest is a serious matter.  Who wants to sit in jail even for a few hours- while the matter is looked into.

The thing is we have due process.  The right to a trial by jury- and the presumption of innocent until proven guilty.

This reminds me of how- the public wearing t-shirts critical to Bush were made to cover it up-  now Obamas handlers and- others- the same rule- -- visa vi "free speech zone" continues.   Why do we need a free speech zone when the constitution gives us the whole country?

Now what if the sign was a trademark?   Could Alex sue DE for using his trademark?  If so- who in DE can the warrant for arrest be for?   All of DE?

This reaks of animal farm. Some are more equal.  Rules and exceptions - as long as MY PARTY is favored.  Is this what this country is really about?

These trends unravel over many years- NAFTA/GATT/TARP-  steal ones job, house, savings and retirement- and that is ok- as long as my guy is in the white house.

HellO?

Gimme all your money and I will put on a suit and make fancy speeches too.

What we dish out to other people- we do to own own people.

People get sidetracked by the dude that is in the hot seat- as that is not their team-  but how soon before the show is on the other foot?

Even if this sign was put up by Alex- then why selective enforcement?    WHy?  Under the constitution they can not selectively enforce the laws.  They are to apply to everybody equally.

Throwing this constitution away is sad-  alex can afford the $25.   So the issue is not $25.

The issue is the constitution- and how careless, fickle- and nonsensical- the masses now deems it.

SO-  the constitution- like gold- is a barbaric relic of the past.  
-- and that is frightening.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 3:41:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlueEyedSubinDE

So the posting on info war's website was 100% factual and had no bias whatsoever. Yes, you are so right, how dare the evil empire of Delaware have a problem with a large sign. Yes, by the picture on infowar's website, it is a large sign. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually enforce one of it's law's. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually have a slight concern for safety. Because I'm sure given the size and shape of that sign and the proximity to the road, there was absolutely no chance of that sign coming loose and shifting, and possibly causing an accident. Nope, I'm sure that sign was put up with the utmost of care and consideration.

No wait, I'm sorry, I can't keep lying forever, yes it's true, I know. I live here. Every night flocks of black helicopters take flight regardless of the weather armed with their search lights carefully examining each and every utility pole. First it's a warning, next it's a fine, 3rd offense? No one knows, the guilty party is taken away never to be seen or heard from again.

For the record, check your respective state law's - most likely you have the same or at least a very similar law on your books. As for me, I prefer to drive on roads without unnecessary hazards. And by that picture, that is exactly what it looks like to me.

As for what I think as a resident of this state? No Delaware did not step over it's limit. I don't care if I paid for that utility pole with my tax dollars or not, it's not a free sign post, it's a pole used to keep power lines off the road. This is not a violation of someone's free speech, it's a piece of shit sign tacked up poorly that could actually cause an accident.

I swear some people just want to spend their days pissed off.


As of today- you do not have my permission to look at ANYTHING to do with Alex.  To include- signs, websites, videos, radio and so forth.  Under no circumstances are you allowed to view his website.   Further, you may NOT read any of the white papers that he links to.

Delaware should be the first state to be nuked.  Why?  because you harbor transnational corporations.  DE is a mecca for the blood thirsty greedy corporations who do nothing but oppress people. 

There are 3 too many counties in DE.   Maybe the PA homeland security guy will come out of hiding-- I bet he is from the DE valley.

As for the black helicopters-,  ponder the theft- of your job, home, savings and your retirement.  Nice of you to give it all to Goldman/JPM.

See you at the FEMA camps.  HA!

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 3:45:11 PM   
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HellO?

Even if this sign was put up by Alex- then why selective enforcement?    WHy?  Under the constitution they can not selectively enforce the laws.  They are to apply to everybody equally.



Hello?

Apparently you have not read the 28th Amendment, also known as the Alex Jones Amendment,  which clearly states that whack jobs who try to manipulate the gullible for profit are not entitled to constitutional protections.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 3:54:03 PM   
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Gold and Silver.    LOL.   I am very gullible. I bought gold at $700 and silver at $9.    I should jump out of a window.


:-)

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 4:20:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlueEyedSubinDE

So the posting on info war's website was 100% factual and had no bias whatsoever. Yes, you are so right, how dare the evil empire of Delaware have a problem with a large sign. Yes, by the picture on infowar's website, it is a large sign. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually enforce one of it's law's. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually have a slight concern for safety. Because I'm sure given the size and shape of that sign and the proximity to the road, there was absolutely no chance of that sign coming loose and shifting, and possibly causing an accident. Nope, I'm sure that sign was put up with the utmost of care and consideration.

No wait, I'm sorry, I can't keep lying forever, yes it's true, I know. I live here. Every night flocks of black helicopters take flight regardless of the weather armed with their search lights carefully examining each and every utility pole. First it's a warning, next it's a fine, 3rd offense? No one knows, the guilty party is taken away never to be seen or heard from again.

For the record, check your respective state law's - most likely you have the same or at least a very similar law on your books. As for me, I prefer to drive on roads without unnecessary hazards. And by that picture, that is exactly what it looks like to me.

As for what I think as a resident of this state? No Delaware did not step over it's limit. I don't care if I paid for that utility pole with my tax dollars or not, it's not a free sign post, it's a pole used to keep power lines off the road. This is not a violation of someone's free speech, it's a piece of shit sign tacked up poorly that could actually cause an accident.

I swear some people just want to spend their days pissed off.



You are aware that you're missing the entire point of the OP, right? The point is, from the information that we've been shown, nobody at infowar had any connection with this sign - other than to inspire the poster. Remember that - no connection to infowars at all. Again, to the best of our knowledge, the DE road crews or whoever does such things saw the sign, knew it was illegal to hang it, and took it down, then whoever's in charge of such things looked at the sign, which only consisted of the site url, did some basic research on the site and came up with the owner's name and address, and decided that he was at fault, as obviously he or one of his agents had put up the sign. They basically wrote him a ticket on it.

Since the guy at infowars did nothing with respect to this pole, why does he have to pay the penalty (even if the penalty is, as in this case, a conviction to deal with in future cases), instead of the people that actually made and put up the sign? I have to agree, either really sloppy work by LE agencies, or a horribly written law that needs to be tested and thrown out.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 4:29:16 PM   
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Since the guy at infowars did nothing with respect to this pole, why does he have to pay the penalty (even if the penalty is, as in this case, a conviction to deal with in future cases), instead of the people that actually made and put up the sign? I have to agree, either really sloppy work by LE agencies, or a horribly written law that needs to be tested and thrown out.


Google the 28th Amendment to the Constitution.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 4:38:20 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		the constitution does not have 28 amendments.

How many executive orders are there?

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 4:46:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MaroonTide


quote:

ORIGINAL: BlueEyedSubinDE

So the posting on info war's website was 100% factual and had no bias whatsoever. Yes, you are so right, how dare the evil empire of Delaware have a problem with a large sign. Yes, by the picture on infowar's website, it is a large sign. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually enforce one of it's law's. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually have a slight concern for safety. Because I'm sure given the size and shape of that sign and the proximity to the road, there was absolutely no chance of that sign coming loose and shifting, and possibly causing an accident. Nope, I'm sure that sign was put up with the utmost of care and consideration.

No wait, I'm sorry, I can't keep lying forever, yes it's true, I know. I live here. Every night flocks of black helicopters take flight regardless of the weather armed with their search lights carefully examining each and every utility pole. First it's a warning, next it's a fine, 3rd offense? No one knows, the guilty party is taken away never to be seen or heard from again.

For the record, check your respective state law's - most likely you have the same or at least a very similar law on your books. As for me, I prefer to drive on roads without unnecessary hazards. And by that picture, that is exactly what it looks like to me.

As for what I think as a resident of this state? No Delaware did not step over it's limit. I don't care if I paid for that utility pole with my tax dollars or not, it's not a free sign post, it's a pole used to keep power lines off the road. This is not a violation of someone's free speech, it's a piece of shit sign tacked up poorly that could actually cause an accident.

I swear some people just want to spend their days pissed off.



You are aware that you're missing the entire point of the OP, right? The point is, from the information that we've been shown, nobody at infowar had any connection with this sign - other than to inspire the poster. Remember that - no connection to infowars at all. Again, to the best of our knowledge, the DE road crews or whoever does such things saw the sign, knew it was illegal to hang it, and took it down, then whoever's in charge of such things looked at the sign, which only consisted of the site url, did some basic research on the site and came up with the owner's name and address, and decided that he was at fault, as obviously he or one of his agents had put up the sign. They basically wrote him a ticket on it.

Since the guy at infowars did nothing with respect to this pole, why does he have to pay the penalty (even if the penalty is, as in this case, a conviction to deal with in future cases), instead of the people that actually made and put up the sign? I have to agree, either really sloppy work by LE agencies, or a horribly written law that needs to be tested and thrown out.



Correct.  Using this same premise-  a "collarme.com" sign on that same poll- then the owner of this site gets a right up- and a threat.  Even tho- the owner does not live in Delaware.     Expecting anyone who has anything to do with this site- and it hinges on a warrant for the arrest of the owner of the site and not the dude who physically put up the sign....

People could use this "law" simply to be malicious.    - someone who hates Rush Libugh- could put up his site - in an effort to get him wrote up.   

I can only be responsible for my actions- not for anyone who ever looked at my website/post.

Even if you hate Alex, his show- etc- it is the point that it could be anyone who gets nailed for something like this.

Knowing how polarized the elections are lately- if DE doesnt fix this- I am guessing there will be more off it- simply to harass others.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 4:51:41 PM   
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the constitution does not have 28 amendments.



Of course it does.

Who are you going to trust here, me or Alex?

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 5:09:30 PM   
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Not 28.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 7:17:58 PM   
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Dude, hate to break it to you, but well you're not the boss of me. I'll look any damned website I want to, I'll read or choose not to read anything I damned well don't want to.

Careful, I'll send the black helicopters to your state.

Seriously, can you ever discuss anything with anyone calmly?


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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 7:31:42 PM   
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Seriously, can you ever discuss anything with anyone calmly?


I'll take "Rhetorical Questions" for 30 pieces of silver, Alex...


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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 7:33:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MaroonTide


quote:

ORIGINAL: BlueEyedSubinDE

So the posting on info war's website was 100% factual and had no bias whatsoever. Yes, you are so right, how dare the evil empire of Delaware have a problem with a large sign. Yes, by the picture on infowar's website, it is a large sign. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually enforce one of it's law's. How dare the evil empire of Delaware actually have a slight concern for safety. Because I'm sure given the size and shape of that sign and the proximity to the road, there was absolutely no chance of that sign coming loose and shifting, and possibly causing an accident. Nope, I'm sure that sign was put up with the utmost of care and consideration.

[...]

As for what I think as a resident of this state? No Delaware did not step over it's limit. I don't care if I paid for that utility pole with my tax dollars or not, it's not a free sign post, it's a pole used to keep power lines off the road. This is not a violation of someone's free speech, it's a piece of shit sign tacked up poorly that could actually cause an accident.

I swear some people just want to spend their days pissed off.


[...]

Since the guy at infowars did nothing with respect to this pole, why does he have to pay the penalty (even if the penalty is, as in this case, a conviction to deal with in future cases), instead of the people that actually made and put up the sign? I have to agree, either really sloppy work by LE agencies, or a horribly written law that needs to be tested and thrown out.

Correct.  Using this same premise-  a "collarme.com" sign on that same poll- then the owner of this site gets a right up- and a threat.  Even tho- the owner does not live in Delaware.     Expecting anyone who has anything to do with this site- and it hinges on a warrant for the arrest of the owner of the site and not the dude who physically put up the sign....

People could use this "law" simply to be malicious.    - someone who hates Rush Libugh- could put up his site - in an effort to get him wrote up.
[...]

An interesting experiment would be for someone to post a sign advertising the http://delaware.gov/ website.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 9:28:51 PM   
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So with the utter disregard for state lines and jurisdictional limits, what is illegal for ANYONE to do in ANY state is illegal all over the country, perhaps the world, is that right ? Alex must be pretty dangerous with those long arms otherwise.

So, I'll tell ya what, I'll put up some collrme.com signs, and I will keep on doing it. By rights then, CM will be shut down and all the owners will be in jail.

In case someone has better sight than I, can you please point out in my last post where I challenged the constitutionality of that "law" ? I know I did before, but that is not the current question. I want to know how I can be cited, warned or any goddam thing else for something someone else does, except for some obscure racketeering statute written for one person (don Gotti).  Speaking of which, that is a federal law, so should Delaware call the FBI and have them do the prosecuting ? It does cross state lines.

Have I scared you that much that you are afraid to respond, or something like that ?

"Hunky, crazy or not, you are still with it, I'll give you some information and I want you to go to Delaware and nail it up on a sign to a pole on the highway, right over a speed limit sign. However you must make the sign. "

Now, if the "great" empire of Deaware caught wind of me really instructing someone to do this, there could be culpability, however if evidence of this does not exist, how could I be deemed culpable ?

Come on all you bright fucking rocket scientists and legal scholars, where is your big mouth now ? Is my "hyperbole" so improved or something ? Come on, I want to see the cops at my door. I give ample opportunity for people to show their intelligence and they keep coming up short.

I can only draw one conclusion in the absence of a response.

Oh, and eihwaz, I think that's an excellent idea. In fact every second I think about it, it sounds better and better.

T


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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 10:30:16 PM   
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~FR

All this whining over a warning? Gesh. Not like they arrested the man. Its a form letter for pete sake.



Then how about I put a tazz sign up in DE, would you be ok- with DE sending YOU that form letter?

Are you resposible for my actions?   Are you responsible if I put up your info on a light poll here in my town?   Should my town be allowed to fine you- if I put up a sign which contains your info.?

Even if you are right- is it ok- for you to have to spend money on an attorney to prove you are right?

Maybe I can have someone put up a sign on MN- his shop- my cousin in DE, and yes- I have relatives there- I could have him put up signs of MN, of RML and for Tazz.   I could have him do this more then once.  Then DE could send you a form letter- but that is ok. 

Is it really ok?

be careful how you reply- because I might actually do it.






lol... cant get blood out of a turnip!

beyond that, its doubtful it will ever get that far. its a 25 dollar fine. most companies will pay that quickly, or ignore the fine and wait to see what happens. im in the latter group.

you keep going on and on about a warrant. What warrant???

Tell ya what, when it hits something besides prison planet and its like, then i may consider it a news event. until then, its alex's word... and we all know how far that can be trusted.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/25/2010 10:46:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Term, are you seriously going to argue that some dildo has a right to put up a sign on a state right-of-way that endangers travellers because Honky said that Alex whoeverhtefuckheis told him via tin-foil hat that it was OK?

Get your fucking shit together, dude.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/26/2010 7:06:16 AM   
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Term, are you seriously going to argue that some dildo has a right to put up a sign on a state right-of-way that endangers travellers because Honky said that Alex whoeverhtefuckheis told him via tin-foil hat that it was OK?

Get your fucking shit together, dude.



hip. I dont think that term is arguing for the right to put up signs anywhere. I think he is expanding on my earlier argument about due process. I think that website is full of shit but if you or I or anyone puts up a sign illegally, should HE be held responsible. There is no due process.

I own a real estate brokerage. If I advertise property for sale without written permission, I can be fined thousands bt the RE commission. Every year after haloween, I have to go and do a "sign roundup" because kids have switched them around. Should I be fined for that?

No, because I didnt put them there.

Same principle.

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RE: Delaware Sends Infowars.com “First Offense Warnin... - 9/26/2010 7:16:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		HK, you seem to have missed the point. As much as a blow hard Alex Jones is matters not. What matters is just who is to be charged with committing crimes, the people who do the crimes, would you not agree ?

I gladly cede on all Constitutional issues in this matter and now focus on direct culpability. I like CM, despite the obvious shortcomings. As such I feel impelled to advertise for them for free, without their knowledge, consent or support. Now suppose in the course of doing so I violate some local regulation or something along those lines. To wit, I ask this one question, who is to be held accountable for the violation ?

Whether it is a penalty or a warning alluding to a possible penalty matters not. If CM does not support, condone nor in any way even encourage my actions, should they be held responsible or not ? It is a fairly simple question and deserving of an answer because there are ramifications yet unseen. It can be put simply as "once they get their foot in the door".

Much as I hate to do this, let me cite an example or two that I am admittedly unprepared to substantiate, but have little reason to doubt. This is because when I read about it there was the old "API" or "UPI" there, which means it came from a syndicated news feed. Additionally I see the trend in this country's laws which made these incidents even more believable.

In one case, a businessman recieved a shipment of lobsters from Honduras. They had been packed contrary to Honduran laws, and some were under the minimum Honduran reqiurement pertaining to weight. He was prosecuted here in the US. (note he had nothing to do with the packing or shipping)

In another, a legal arms dealer shipped a firearm to an address in Mexico. Like here, not all guns are illegal, but in some cases the dealer is required to remove certain accesories, usually including larger capacity magazines or "clips". In this case the firearms dealer was actually extradited to Mexico to stand trial there.

Granted, this is not an issue of the magnitude of either of the tertiary examples, however one thing is for certain. If the people have no recourse against these improper laws, the government will eventually run [even more] amuck. If we just take everything they say laying down, think about it. If they can fine you a dollar for not wearing a seat belt there is nothing stopping them from incarcerating you for years for the same offense. That is why it is a bigger issue.

Many would argue "They would never do that ! ", well I assert that they can, and if things are not brought in check, for them to be held within reason, some kind of push back, they eventually will. The one thing we had in this country was the Constitution. Consider a government without one like ours', which is happening before our eyes by the way because of the government's utter disregard for it.

You want something substantial ? Do a bit of research on Earnst Zundel. If you are of sane mind you don't need to be a Nazi loving Jew hater to see the inequities in how the Man was treated. Look at it with an open mind, and remember that free speech is not free, nor is it intended only for speech which is pleasing. If you can silence a radical, you can silence the voice of reason.

And if you're too politically correct or "sensitive" to read up on Zundel, try Larry Flint on for size. (Hustler magazine and Cincinatti, remember ?)

Also bear in mind that I have chosen this battle despite having two lawyers on retainer, a dwindling slush fund, looming bankruptcy, property that won't sell and a very unsure future in my carreer. Why would I do that ? Because I can see past the surface of an issue. I understand the concept of a legal precedent. I also know the character of government.

T

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