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ORIGINAL: KneelB4You
this can start out as, or devolve into, a fetishistic obsession on the cuckold's part. In that event he is no longer having a relationship with *her* but rather his idealized fetish. I think both parties have to remain conscious of keeping the relationship first, with this the added "spice".

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

if you're refering to the "hot wife" scenario.. it's cuckolding none the less.. however like i said before.. more often than not it's the wife being encouraged by the male to take lovers.

MsMacComb

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An empowered and dominant female may prefer to be "used" by multiple males, in a variety of ways.Thats her choice and if its her call it doesnt lessen her or her role in bed or in life.

i dont see where i implied that she can't. i said:

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in a hot wife scenario like you described.. oftentimes it's the husband/cuck that wants to see his wife get fucked by bulls.

oftentimes implies that more often than not from the cuckolding relationships where the female has other lovers.. usually from my experience it's the husband initiating it. it's like a swinging couple with a twist. but it's still cuckolding. a woman becomes a pawn when she's doing it for the cuckold's enjoyment.. and instead of her own.
 
 I am curious why if a female is enjoying her cuckoldress status and all the perks that go with it why its important to you whom intitiated it? If someone suggests going out to dinner and both people have a lovely meal, its mutual enjoyment. Who's idea it was to go out, who picked that particular restaurant is irrelevant right? I mean both parties had a lovely evening, what difference does it make who suggested it or who suggested cuckolding? If a girl was raised in a strict, religious, repressed environment, upon becoming an adult she may never have even known that such a thing existed much less that its not only tolerated but encouraged by some men. We all learn something from someone else. Sometimes is from another lady, sometimes its from a man. Either way, once she knows of it, embraces it, enjoys and initiates it regardless of ig its cuckolding, hotwifing, wife watching etc its still her that calls the shots.

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although i have one question:  i've seen some cuckold sites where there is some SERIOUS hardcore bdsm involvment and the woman claim these men are thier husbands.  Doesn't it kind of negate the "caring loving" aspect of the normal relationship or cause murky situations?

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ORIGINAL: PassionateNights
finally I am an Alpha male.....in to the rest of the world, powerful, aggressive, a natural leader..it's just with her that I am different

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I am curious why if a female is enjoying her cuckoldress status and all the perks that go with it why its important to you whom intitiated it?

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Either way, once she knows of it, embraces it, enjoys and initiates it regardless of ig its cuckolding, hotwifing, wife watching etc its still her that calls the shots.

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I really felt, as the cuckoldress, that I was being used. I felt used by the bulls to get their rocks off. And I felt used by the cuck as a mechanism of their living vicariously through me and the bulls. It didn't make me feel treasured and precious and cared for.

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finally I am an Alpha male.....in to the rest of the world, powerful, aggressive, a natural leader..it's just with her that I am different

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

When you take the basic definition of cuckold as being a male having an unfaithful partner/wife.. I don't think there are right or wrong ways to cuckold someone.... If the cuckoldress is happy, the cuckold remains loyal and the relationship is thriving... shouldn't that be the measure of how a cuckold relationship should exist?

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For the most part, I agree: "cuckolding" is so broad that there are (and must be) many different ways of practicing it, and as long as everyone's happy, that's fine and dandy.

But I can't tell you how many "proto-cuckolds" IM me and e-mail me trying to get me to fuck their wives. Sending me pictures, telling me what she's "into," all that shit. And whenever I inquire further, it almost always turns out that it's just their tawdry fantasy; the wife wants none of it. Every once in a while the wife is willing to participate, but only grudgingly. When it's something that a fetish-driven husband is laying on his reluctant wife, it's obviously a lot less enjoyable for everyone else. I think that's what people mean by posers and pretenders.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

For the most part, I agree: "cuckolding" is so broad that there are (and must be) many different ways of practicing it, and as long as everyone's happy, that's fine and dandy.

But I can't tell you how many "proto-cuckolds" IM me and e-mail me trying to get me to fuck their wives.  Sending me pictures, telling me what she's "into," all that shit.  And whenever I inquire further, it almost always turns out that it's just their tawdry fantasy; the wife wants none of it.  Every once in a while the wife is willing to participate, but only grudgingly.  When it's something that a fetish-driven husband is laying on his reluctant wife, it's obviously a lot less enjoyable for everyone else.  I think that's what people mean by posers and pretenders.

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess
if someone is doing something like cuckolding because her husband wants her to.. that's like forced sex slavery damn near. i know a lot of *hot wives* that entertain that notion just because they don't want to lose their husbands.. or men i know whom have forced their wives to do it because it's their fantasy and rather than divorce they do it.

sorry, not always.. in a realistic world perhaps..a lot of women are NOT the ones calling the shots. most women in Mistress/sub are.. most in the vanilla sort of domineering woman roles are.. SOME hotwives are.. but it goes back to the fact that for the part men have cuckolding fantasies and they introduce them to their wives..either their wives are receptive or their wives aren't, but will oblige to appease him.
i know a woman right now that agreed in the beginning and now she's afraid to stop because her husband is gonna kick bricks if she does. how empowering is that? who is calling the shots there?   i'm MERELY speaking about the women whom may have tried to be into this .. be it after a a period of time.. be it after several decades.. or maybe right from the start but then after time they dont feel happy.. they feel USED.

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I guess we are talking about somewhat different situations. What you described IS sad and would be very wrong. What I was referring to was empowered women who would NOT put up with any of that macho-pushy-husband bullshit. Perhaps its just the circle of friends and acquaintances that I associate with but none of them (or I) would ever tolerate that. That has nothing to do with consent or cuckolding but sounds more like an overbearing asshole husband whom she should dump in one second flat. :)

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ORIGINAL: Cuck123

First, i would like to give my respect to each Mistress Who has posted in this thread.

Next, i would like to add my view on cuckolding.

The traditional definition of a cuckold is simply a man who's wife is unfaithful.  If reading Shakespeare, for example, that's all it means.

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ORIGINAL: Cuck123


Actually, i dont like the whole cuckold wimp concept... submitting isnt being a wimp.  It is giving up power rather than being without it in the first place.

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Actually, i dont like the whole cuckold wimp concept... submitting isnt being a wimp. It is giving up power rather than being without it in the first place.