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Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the Pen... - 4/24/2006 3:05:18 PM   
MistyMenthal


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This was Scary yet put tears into my eyes.

This footage is about the Plane that hit the
Pentagon. Or was it a plane?

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:11:36 PM   
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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:15:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		My teen has been an investigator and researcher on this very topic, she uncovered some footage almost 7 months ago and has been perusing files, photos, tapes, etc since then, many security tapes from places in the area were confiscated---we have come to the conclusion that there was NO plane, there could not be based on the evidence, to have had a plane it would have had to be going 200 mph travelling 100 feet and less above the ground---and we know that kind of damage that can do---there was no plane---it is her contention that the WTC represented the world NOT the US as it was "neutral territory"--the US sent a missile into the Pentagon to make the attacks US centric.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:18:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well if that is the case, what happened to the 4th plane?  Did the US blow it up and kill those innocent people for a cover up?  Where did that plane crash?  Inquiring minds....

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:21:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		There never was a 4th plane, the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was the last plane, it was slated to hit the Pentagon as well, no fourth plane has been uncovered.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:27:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a video on google videos that's at least an hour long, maybe two, that goes into a lot of detail and eye witness accounts that is in agreement with this video.

Hard to believe it was an airliner but it sure helped get everyone frothing at the mouth to retaliate.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as pissed as anyone else is about the events of that day.  I love my country, I don't trust my government at all.



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ORIGINAL: MistyMenthal

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

This was Scary yet put tears into my eyes.

This footage is about the Plane that hit the
Pentagon. Or was it a plane?

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:28:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whatever your own personal theories are, it can't be denied that destruction at the Pentagon received almost no news coverage. You'd think that being the Pentagon that it would have received more coverage than a plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field.

Draw whatever conclusions you like from the lack of of coverage. Sometimes what isn't said is more relevant than what is.


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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:30:51 PM   
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interesting theory...there's some seemingly contradictory photos on this site

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:35:35 PM   
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My teen has been an investigator and researcher on this very topic, she uncovered some footage almost 7 months ago and has been perusing files, photos, tapes, etc since then, many security tapes from places in the area were confiscated---we have come to the conclusion that there was NO plane, there could not be based on the evidence, to have had a plane it would have had to be going 200 mph travelling 100 feet and less above the ground---and we know that kind of damage that can do---there was no plane---it is her contention that the WTC represented the world NOT the US as it was "neutral territory"--the US sent a missile into the Pentagon to make the attacks US centric.


The US shot a missile at the Pentagon? You have got to be joking. What happened to the plane that they claimed crashed... did it crash elsewhere? Did the government covertly eliminate all the people in that plane just to launch their war?

I suppose that the calls from Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania were staged too and that the plane was shot down by the military and any survivors of the crash were murdered.

Sorry... no sale here.

Edited to add: If the World Trade Centers were "neutral territory" then why has that become the icon for that days events? If the Pentagon was to get the ire of the US population going why not have that as the symbol of the day?

Elvis is alive... isn't he?

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:47:33 PM   
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Did the government covertly eliminate all the people in that plane just to launch their war?

I suppose that the calls from Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania were staged too and that the plane was shot down by the military and any survivors of the crash were murdered.

Sorry... no sale here.



Gauge,

I haven't done my research into this, I have no opinion (That I wish to express) on what happened.  However, if we assume that the government decided to blow up the world trade center and kill 4000? people, how is it a stretch for them to kill a few more on planes?  Not saying it happened, but if we challenge the theory that it was the US itself, then not by the mildest of the atrocities that may have happened.

Just my humble opinion.

Now please, let a newbie post a stupid question so we can get some martinis going.

Yours,


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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 3:48:14 PM   
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many security tapes from places in the area were confiscated---we have come to the conclusion that there was NO plane.



Thank you.  This is the far more perplexing question. Where are all the tapes from one of the most heavily survailed buildings in America, and what reasoning would anyone have in not wanting the public to see them way after the fact? I have never heard a logical, conclusive answer from anyone who desires to relegate those of us who question this to ''tin foil'' hats.

Also, why and who suppressed our air defense system? The second those planes hit the towers, the second two should have been shot down immediately.

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool"
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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 4:02:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		www.loosechange911.com is a documentary of evidence.  I've also seen discussion on threads (I can't remember where) by a Clemson University engineering professor who brings up to his students every semester-they spend one day talking about a substance called Thermite and the necessity to use military-grade Thermite to be scientifically able to demolish a building as sturdy as the trade center.  The engineers can't but agree that it would take a much hotter explosion than would have happened from jet fuel to collapse the towers.  The engineers all agreed that some carpet, paper, coat racks and file cabinets might have melted from a jet fuel explosion, but not the bones of the building.  Furthermore the Clemson professor provided a link to the slideshow showing tons of examples of controlled and also non-controlled demolitions, all of which pointed to the wisdom that both were a controlled demolition.  It is also a fact that within a few weeks before September, the TCs were closed and no employees were to come to work, due to a 'maintenance update' which supposedly required total evacuation of the TCs.  Furthermore, the man who owned those two buildings took out what's known as a "Put Option" on the TC's.  A Put Option is a Wall Street term for a financial move that speculates that something will happen that hurts the company.  If the company does in fact get hurt, someone profits from the hugely speculative odds of it happening.  That man was not the only person who happened to take Put Options on the TC in the summer of 2001, but in fact over 1000 entities took Put Options on the TCs.  The Federal Trade Commission could roll back the tickertape and identify the entities who took out those Put Options, however the FTC knows that it would not be in the best interests of those who profited to do so.  Its funny how they traced Cat Stevens' money to some muslim group.  Still another way to detail the non-consentual strap-on play that the American people aren't going to do a thing about, is to look at the Air Traffic Control chain.  Forget that the FBI also confiscated all the security camera footage on the trade centers, look at the ATC system.  To understand this, one has to be enlightened to know that just as there is a line between pilots and the 3 different levels of air traffic control (the tower, what's known as the tracon, and the center), there also exists a simultaneous feed directly to NORAD in Colorado.  If you're not sure what NORAD is, then google them.  Anyway, military protocol MANDATES that jets be scrambled within 3 minutes of a "deviation" and carefully prethought steps are taken.  Military protocol is not something NORAD takes lightly, nor do they care who might be shot down, should it come to that.  On that day however, the time it took to scramble jets was 34 minutes.  The question is, who had the authority to stand down a NORAD deviation alert?  What changes have come about because of the tradgedy?  Who profits?  Who pays?  As for me, I feel lucky that I've listed non-consentual strap-on play as an interest here in Collarme. 
(gets off soapbox)  Feel free to do your own digging on this.  Also while you're at it, google and dictionary.com the word Polyinstantiation.  It will explain a lot. 

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 4:39:05 PM   
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There is "proof" out there that the Holocaust never happened either. 

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 4:43:03 PM   
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Penn & Teller have this right:

http://thatsjuststupid.com/video/911.conspiracy.wmv

(disturbing images & strong language)

Mistress Hathor:  I am close friends with a man whose wife (at the time) was in the active Army, TDY to Army Public Affairs, and stationed at the Pentagon as a photojournalist.  She was in an office about 100 ft away from the outside edge of where the explosion from the impact reached.  She heard distinct sounds -- BAM, BAM, BAM -- as the aircraft (yes, it was an aircraft, and a 757) impacted the E-ring, then the D-ring, then the C-ring of the Pentagon.  Several of her co-workers were burned in the resulting explosion and fire.  She ran out of the building, leaving her belongings behind, but she had the presence of mind to grab her camera and 7 rolls of 35mm film.  She was the first photojournalist on the scene, and her pictures were picked up and reported by the major wire services. 

There is absolutely no -- and by that I mean NO -- doubt in her mind that a civilian airliner, a 757 -- hit the Pentagon.  The conspiracy nuts make a lot of noise about there not being any photos of the victims, etc.  But those photos most assuredly are there.  They are just very graphic and very troubling.  The government deliberately withheld many of those images because they were used as evidence in the trial of Zaccarias Moussaoui.  Now that they are in the penalty phase of that trial, you can see them here (warning: very disturbing and graphic images).  Don't say I didn't warn you. 

Somebody else mentioned "Loose Change".  I wish I could recap a debate I had recently with one of the kids (yes, they're basically kids) who produced this preposterous fantasy.  Let's just say there are a lot of holes in the "theories" put forth by that film, to put it kindly.  Their aviation "experts" are particularly laughable, particulary the one who claims that a 757 can't make a 330-deg turn without entering a high-speed stall. This will be news to all of the 757 pilots who routinely make 330-deg (and even 360-deg!) turns every day.

If you want to know what REALLY happened on 9/11, do yourself a favor.  Read Chapters 1 & 2 of the 9/11 Report.  It is riveting reading and should clear up a lot of the nonsense and misinformation that some people are determined to spread about that day.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 4:46:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
Thank you.  This is the far more perplexing question. Where are all the tapes from one of the most heavily survailed buildings in America, and what reasoning would anyone have in not wanting the public to see them way after the fact? I have never heard a logical, conclusive answer from anyone who desires to relegate those of us who question this to ''tin foil'' hats.

Who says this is one of the most heavily survailed buildings in America?  Do you have a list?  I would guess there are more cameras in a private building like the Sears Tower where the owners of the building want to catch the employees stealing rather than the US Government who you insinuate 'surpressed' our air defense system. 

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Also, why and who suppressed our air defense system? The second those planes hit the towers, the second two should have been shot down immediately.

Are you going to be the first US President to order a rocket attack on a private U.S. aircraft with hundreds of private U.S. citizens onboard?  The president only had minutes to hear about the first hit before the second aircraft hit the Twin Towers, and there is a LOT of airspace around NYC that has airplanes flying around.  Are you just going to start shooting all the big ones down at random?  And what about the 5 ton engines (4) and 5,000 gallons of burning jet fuel you have now dumped on downtown Manhattan falling into the streets from 1500 feet?  So now you have 10,000 fires in downtown on top of the one twin tower burning and 10,000 lawsuits from people crying because they can't believe the PRESIDENT ordered the plane shot down with their son/daughter/sister/mother/uncle/aunt/grandma inside.  Besides, you can't tell a plane is going to hit a building in NYC until it is way too late.  

The US has been lucky to have the Pacific and Atlantic oceans guarding it for centuries so this attack, although predicted as possible, was just unlikely and the US had grown complacent.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 4:52:17 PM   
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Confiscating the video by the FBI is simply standard operating procedure.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 5:00:06 PM   
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Also, why and who suppressed our air defense system? The second those planes hit the towers, the second two should have been shot down immediately.


What air defense system?  One of the things that concerned a lot of real military planners is that US thinking had become so missile oriented that we really didn't have a viable air defense system.  Back in the 50s, fighters all over the country were on +15 alert and some were even at +5 (this envolved the pilot sitting in the aircraft).

By the end of the century, there were only a few air bases in the country where there was any realistic fighter alert level at all, notably at Elmendorf  where the US almost touches the Soviet Union and there are occasional "off course" tests of our alertness.

It was a major miracle that Otis managed to get planes airborne at all, particularly considering the cluster fuck that was going on at the top of the chain of command.

If you are talking air defense missiles, dream on.  Again, in the 50's and 60's we had 'em, including a hundred and forty or so Nike Hercules batteries with nuclear warheads (leading to the question about how good an idea it was to shoot at incoming planes with nukes that might go off over parts of the US.)  By the mid-70's they were gone.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 5:10:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		            So here it is 2006 and I see this now, my question is when was this first posted,and or seen. As in 2002 I was actively listening to Alex Jones,who is out of Huston Texas, who was telling those who listened , to look further into it. The pics never made sense. The Twin Towers were downed in a Controlled Demolition, as they clearly fell down from the bottom up, the other building, the 3rd on that went in the same way that day was said to house a Govt office, one that hadn't been common knowledge. Nowhere near the Towers but went down just the same, from the bottom to the top! Look at this!!!
                                   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032865563019209801&q=9%2F11&pl=true
                                   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2617415640484656526&q=9%2F11&pl=true
Here is the Google video site browse for yourself 
                                   http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=9%2F11&page=2&lv=0&so=0
        I myself was driving on September 11th, in Rhode Island, and on a very knowledgable, and mainstream AM station, hear the whole thing as it was happening. From the 1st plane hitting onwards, the fact that the planes had been highjacked from Boston's Logan Airport, the second plane hitting, and another little quip  that was announced  "There are military Fighter Aircrafts following Flight 93 and are readying to take it down as it is heading towards the Capital building in DC"  then " the craft was shot down by military crafts over Pennsylvainia".   So they came back and said that it had crashed. Never to hear that the military crafts were involved again.
          Similar footage to what is on the link above was availible to us in 2002, and no one wanted to hear it. I am amazed at how long this has gone on without the public taking notice.
           You see the fact that people in fear will hand over power so readily to those they feel might protect them! That is what was counted on, and now look at the mess, the War, the devestation to other Countries. So much so that the Govt. ignores the needy and dying in it's own Country, spending millions upon millions to wage a War against Saddam and destroy that land, forget Bin Ladden who they went after in the 1st place.But no money to help those in the deep south gulf coastal regions.
            Let me tell you this, I was so afraid for the future of the US and the people in it, I spoke loud and clear about my beliefs and no one listened. I packed up and left the States in 2004, and don't want to go back, am safely far far away and detatched from all of it. But I watch the News , ( what they let us see)and am sickened by the lack of conciousness that the masses have. WAKE UP!!!! Bush is so wrong,and someone has to bring this into light.Someday he will sit in front of  The Hauge and plead his case. Hopefully it will fall on deaf ears.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 5:17:47 PM   
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Anyway, military protocol MANDATES that jets be scrambled within 3 minutes of a "deviation" and carefully prethought steps are taken.


Citation please.  I don't know of any base that has planes on +3.  In fact, I don't know you can be at +3.  It takes a while to get the gyros spun up, checklist gone through and taxiways navigated.  Any military pilots are welcome to chime in here since I'm only a lowly groundpounder with a couple of hundred hours stick time in a prop job, but I don't know anywhere outside of a Sergeant Rock comic book where a pilot runs out of the ready room, leaps into the seat and rockets off to V2 while still on the taxiway.

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  Military protocol is not something NORAD takes lightly, nor do they care who might be shot down, should it come to that. 


Oh but they do!  Every military planner remembers and probably has nightmares about 1988 when a surface-to-air missile fired by the cruiser USS Vincennes mistakenly shot down an Iranian airliner and in 1973, when two Israeli fighters shot down a civilian airliner from Libya.  Incidents like these are etched into the awareness of every contingency planner and every fighter jock closing on a suspicious aircraft.

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RE: Sept. 911 Rare footage. What really happened at the... - 4/24/2006 5:29:28 PM   
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www.loosechange911.com is a documentary of evidence.  I've also seen discussion on threads (I can't remember where) by a Clemson University engineering professor who brings up to his students every semester-they spend one day talking about a substance called Thermite and the necessity to use military-grade Thermite to be scientifically able to demolish a building as sturdy as the trade center. 


I love non-engineers that quote discussions (they can't remember where they saw them) that say something is possible/impossible.  Tell me, when something burns at 1600 degrees for close to an hour, what WON'T melt?  Aluminum melts at 1218 degrees -oh, wait, that is what the AIRPLANE SKIN is made out of - and although steel doesn't melt until it reaches 2750 F, it gets soft way before that and won't hold up as much weight as it was designed to... like say, 10 or 12 floors of offices.
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The engineers can't but agree that it would take a much hotter explosion than would have happened from jet fuel to collapse the towers.  The engineers all agreed that some carpet, paper, coat racks and file cabinets might have melted from a jet fuel explosion, but not the bones of the building. 

It wasn't the explosion, it was the fire.  As a matter of fact, the building was only designed to take a strike from a 727, which was the biggest plane at the time it was designed.  It took the strike of a much bigger plane, AND held the weight of it until the fire weakened the building enough for it to collapse.  And, if you looked at how that building was built, there weren't any 'bones' as you say.  the outside of the building was holding a lot of the weight, and hey, there was a big fricken hole in one side.  And it still held up for close to an hour.
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Anyway, military protocol MANDATES that jets be scrambled within 3 minutes of a "deviation" and carefully prethought steps are taken. 

Oh, yeah *flipping to page 92 of the "NORAD Standard Operating Procedures" mailed to every red-blooded taxpaying American...What, you didn't get your copy, you obvious commie?* you are right, right here in the book of Armaments.

So, tell me that you are privy to NORAD standard operating procedures, General.  Oh, wait - you haven't served your country in the Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines, have you? 

I bet you think that we didn't land on the moon, either!

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