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pahunkboy -> Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 4:14:33 PM)

Are we raising a generation of nincompoops?http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/09/27/are_we_raising_a_generation_of_nincompoops/





Aylee -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 4:25:00 PM)

Hmmm. . .

What is wrong with a five year old in a stroller?

Also, I will note that the author made the comment about writing cursive.  If you are writing, it IS cursive.  Otherwise it is printing.  I disagree with the assessment that it is not a needed skill.




BoredAsHell -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 5:58:44 PM)

i think we're on the second or third generation of nincompoops! i mean seriously, look around at the people you see at the mall at any given day. it's enough to make you want to lock yourself indoors and cower in fear. the idiots aren't coming, they're here!




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 6:01:10 PM)

The increase in unnecessary warning labels also points to this.




littlewonder -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 6:02:23 PM)

I have to say I agree with the article but that's because I have a kid who struggles sometimes with some of the things mentioned in the article. A hanger? Yeah I doubt she knows how to even use one. I know she doesn't know how to use a can opener. She's never had to use one and anything that is more complicated than the use of a computer or a push of a button is just something she is going to really think about how to use.

I'm one of those parents who as the article mentions, hires someone to mow the lawn and if I had the money I'd hire them to clean my home and cook for me too. It just makes life simpler. Unfortunately living a simpler life can also play havoc with future generations who lose the ability to do those things that my generation always knew how to do.

It happens with every generation though. I don't have a clue how to use a wringer washer or a pressure cooker, things my mom grew up using everyday in her daily life. The more technological we become the less we have to learn to do.




pahunkboy -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 6:06:33 PM)

I recall  an old ice tray as a kid- I did not know how it worked.


the lever kind vs the plastic pop out.




Arpig -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 6:48:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I recallĀ  an old ice tray as a kid- I did not know how it worked.


the lever kind vs the plastic pop out.


You've got to be kidding....you pull the lever and it breaks the ice free, Hell I figured that out just by seeing one when I was around 4 or 5




littlewonder -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 6:58:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I recallĀ  an old ice tray as a kid- I did not know how it worked.


the lever kind vs the plastic pop out.


You've got to be kidding....you pull the lever and it breaks the ice free, Hell I figured that out just by seeing one when I was around 4 or 5


hell my daughter can't figure out how to use any kind of ice cube tray! She just looks at them and yells "moooommmm". She's used to the ice already made by the freezer so she rarely uses ice cube trays. Now that she has her own apartment she just never makes ice. lol




pahunkboy -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/2/2010 7:07:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I recall  an old ice tray as a kid- I did not know how it worked.


the lever kind vs the plastic pop out.


You've got to be kidding....you pull the lever and it breaks the ice free, Hell I figured that out just by seeing one when I was around 4 or 5


I am MUCH younger then you.

I knew the plastic pop out ice trays.

I am MUCH much younger then you.




GreedyTop -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 2:59:23 AM)

I miss the lever kind.. at least teh ice always came out! The plastic ones seemed to alway leave one or two cubes stuck in them.




soul2share -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 3:20:58 AM)

Just a reflection on how technology has made our kids lazy......my son was at my house, he was probably 15 years old at the time.  We had gotten movies out and I asked him if he wanted some popcorn.  He said yes, and I pulled out a package of microwave popcorn....when he saw it, he told me that we couldn't do it because I didn't have a microwave at the time.  I told him to be patient, I'd show him how we did it in the Stone Age......pulled out a frying pan w/lid, put the lump of popcorn in it, shok it up over the stove, and viola!  Popcorn!  His response...."Cool!  I didn't know you could do that!"

He's not a nincompoop, just a product of the 20th century.




Termyn8or -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 7:24:28 AM)

FR

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Had I not been there to help that 12-year-old with the ice-cube tray, she added, the kid surely would have "whipped out his iPhone and clicked on his ice cube app to get a little video animated by a 6-year-old that explained how you get ice cubes out of a tray."

I actually got a bit of a chuckle out of that one but realistically, it's not fucking funny at all. If people get much stupider it might be a bit troublesome. And the omnipotent government can't save you either. Probably half of them are umfamialar with the operation and care of an ice cube tray. While I have confidence enough to believe that some of our public "servants" can and do know how to get the icecubes out, I doubt any are familiar with the concept of refilling the device with water to assure future access to icecubes.

But us commoners, we the unentitled must respond. So when you get a new cellphone (tomorrow is Monday fo God's sake, that old thing is obsolete ! ) make sure to get the complete help package. Think of it as Mommy with eight megs of ram. It is your best friend. I remember the last time in jail. You could see them walking around aimlessly. I approached one to find out just what condition his condition was in. That is when I realized that jail, all the torture and punishment, it all means nothing. The REAL punishment is not having your cellphone. "I wanted to call my dood but his number is on my cell and the screws won't let me go look it up ". Don't even use the word twitter in the same room with me.

But don't mind my snarkiness, it's in my blood. To this day Ma can't figure out why there are school zones around high schools. Elementary OK, preschool OK, but a high school ? In her most tactful way she puts it something like "Bullshit, they're old enough to drive, to get high, to fuck, and they got life all figured out of course, and we have to worry that they're going to forget how to cross the fuckin street ? ". I think she has a point.

But what you have to understand is that it's all part of the modus operandi of controlling the people. Kids used to know how to do things. Many years ago, if your kid ran away at 16 you might not see him for three or four years. He could find a stick, some old fishook somewhere, and live off the land. By the time you see him he's taken a Wife, has two kids and you are a Grandparent. Now they come back in five minutes, to make sure your old ass is going to pay their cell/camera/data/music/ everything phone bill.

Even mailorder mapfolding courses are all but gone. Who would look at a map when you can get a GPS for $4.95 ? I hear they had to tweak the software in those things, like when it says to turn left, they had to add some lines of code to include "Look for a street, figure out who has the right of way, when it is safe and you have ACD to make the turn then proceed " Otherwise people just turn immediately into the front of a building or something.

Actually the fact of the matter is this (as gleaned by me). We have seemingly given up on evolution, and now are just thinking of procreation. Girls, look at the cock shots in photos that people bitch about from time to time. You might think they are crass, and the guy is an ass, and you would probably be right. But what you don't realize is that the guy is just trying to show you his brain, that is, how smart he is.

But as stupid as people can be, they still do have one piece of knowledge, and that is to seek the least common denominator. Simple process really, just find the right person. With a cock like that what #11 first class model wouldn't abandon her home and family, and the lucrative business she has built in the last 16 years just to get a taste of that oh so delicious looking cock ? How could she possibly refuse ? Come on now you know everyone is the same. Nobody can understand what you can't understand, we are all the same remember ? If anyone deviates from the norm, they have pills for that.

How many here have known a person who was born on a table at a speakeasy ? I have. there was no machine that went BEEP. Of course the guy couldn't have existed but he sure fooled me. Getting a baby born is a huge undertaking. Not only do you need the machine that goes beep, you need three neurosurgeons, five specialists and at least three consultants watching the delivery via skype to get it right. That's right, the world began yesterday because there was no way to get all this necessary equipment to the speakeasy. (note that last I checked the US was in the bottom ten of "civilised" countries in infant mortality) Therefore there is no intelligent life on this planet.

Next month I might actually have to pound a nail into a piece of wood. Could someone donate a little cash to pay my cellphone bill so I can do it ?

T




Aylee -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 8:54:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or 

Next month I might actually have to pound a nail into a piece of wood. Could someone donate a little cash to pay my cellphone bill so I can do it ?

T



Ya know. .  this might work for a new CM scam.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 9:04:29 AM)

Damn, yall musta been rich.  We got ice from freezing the old cardboard half gallon milk cartons, then using an ice pick to poke holes all in it and get busted up ice.....

I have 2 of the old metal ice trays that I still use to this day.....no idea where they came from, cause we sure didnt use them when I was a kid-lol.

The whole GPS thing freaks me out.  I feel like if you dont have the sense to find where you are going, you shouldnt be driving.  That is probably the old truck driver in me...I am not sure technology is progress, but there is no turning back....




pahunkboy -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 9:16:53 AM)

I dont have an ice maker.  Nor do I want one. 




DesFIP -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 10:02:16 AM)

So when the visiting kid had never seen the ice cube tray, it was the kid's fault instead of the adult who didn't bother to explain it? Same with the can opener.

I will explain why 4 year olds aren't potty trained. It's because of two reasons; daycare and living in an urban environment. To potty train a child means either they need to want to do it by themselves or you need a solid month or two to be with the kid 24/7 watching for signs of needing to go and rushing them to the bathroom, getting the clothes off and so on. It's easier to do in a backyard where they can wander around naked and go on the grass. Apropos of that, one of my nephew's after learning how to go outdoors was rushing outside in November because he needed a tree. It was at that point that they had to teach him what toilets were for.

However around here, it's the teen who can handle all the mechanical things since I'm hopeless. But he's had male role models coralling him into helping to assemble things and do yard work, household and car repairs. I'm betting most of those kids had absent fathers.

You need to be taught how to. It doesn't come in through the drinking water.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 10:09:02 AM)

We didn't have an ice maker when I was a kid.

We had to snap off those transparent dangling carrots from the porch roof, how about them.




DesFIP -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 10:12:02 AM)

My great grandfather used a horse and buggy in his business. My grandmother knew how to harness up the horse. Perhaps my mother and I are nincompoops because we never learned what was taught to them when very young?




soul2share -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 12:37:34 PM)

I don't bother w/GPS....we get way too many calls from people who followed their GPS long enough to get lost!  Look at that couple who followed their GPS right into the mountains of Oregon a couple of winters ago.....they almost died.  Idiots!  And the way the construction is constanly changing the traffic patterns just here in Jax, I've seen it literally change in 12 hours! 

Google maps are my friend......with the street view, you can actually see the neighborhood.  They may be about 6 months old or so, but the visual is there.  I have maps in my car that I use religiously.  I had a conversation about maps vs. GPS with someone just the other day......he prefers it, I told him I'd never have it. 

Fortunately, I seem to be able to locate a route even when I'm "lost".  Having a point of reference helps, but even if I don't have one, I'll find my way to where I need to be. 




Musicmystery -> RE: Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? (10/3/2010 12:39:45 PM)

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i think we're on the second or third generation of nincompoops


Bingo. And they like it that way.




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