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MissAsylum -> Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:06:18 PM)

I recieved a very "nice" note today. Apparently, I am only a domme because my father was abusive and that i am also a domme because I am an ugly black bitch that nobody wants. i am in no way hung up on the words-i've been called worse by better. What peaked my interest, so to speak, is the aclaimed past of abuse by somebody whom i've never come in contact with. the racial comment just made me laugh-per usual. But does this Freudian-esque approach to bdsm hold any weight? What is your opinion? Was your dominance(and submission for that matter) triggered by a childhood expirence?....or did it just develop out of nowhere?




DarkSteven -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:11:00 PM)

About half the sub women I've known were abused as children.  I don't know how that stat compares to the non-sub population of women.

My childhood had no abuse and was pretty boring.  It developed out of nowhere.

quote:

i am also a domme because I am an ugly black bitch that nobody wants.


I wanted to tell you how much I want you, but the line to do so was too long...




MissAsylum -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:18:11 PM)

in some alternate universe- i am your beloved submissive.




MagikMisstress -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:18:49 PM)

Miss,

Some people are just intimidated by a strong woman, no matter the color of their skin.  If you can do these two things everyday, you are in good shape.

1. look yourself in the mirror and say to yourself  I am beutifull and kind
2. Can sleep with all the descions that you have had to make during the day.

If you do them, then fuck everybody else.  If they have a problem it is theirs not yours.




MissAsylum -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:24:51 PM)

i agree with you, but i didn't take the time to speak with this person- just sent that "lol" and block. the message didnt bother me- just made go, "hm. i know there are people who actually think this way"




femasoslave -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:40:32 PM)

You handled the "nice" note perfectly....by treating it with the disdain it deserved....what these people want when they write that type of note is to upset the person that they have written to......they are the ones who have a problem.

Regards to my upbringing.....I have never been abused, I am only child and was a tomboy....always strong and independant.




poise -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:42:25 PM)

My father was a pretty horrible fella. I blame him for my late blooming into this lifestyle.
While I never suffered any physical abuse at his hands, I did witness the abuse my mother put up
with and it will always be etched in my mind. This had the opposite affect of what your emailer claims
by making me feel I needed to stifle my submissive spirit in order to survive in this world unscathed.
Thankfully I no longer fear monsters.




littlewonder -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 8:46:15 PM)

I was neglected as a child but never abused. I am submissive because it's my personality due to the culture in which I grew up....a very traditional family where the wife deferred to her husband for religious reasons.

It's what I'm still comfortable with and what I feel is right according to my morals and values.

I don't submit out of fear from my childhood. I submit because it's what I feel in my heart is correct.




slavelynn95008 -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 9:24:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
About half the sub women I've known were abused as children. 


About half the PEOPLE I know were abused as children, including me. It's universal. Sadly.




gungadin09 -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 9:31:49 PM)

i wasn't abused, but i had an unusual childhood. My mom was manic depressive. She spent a large portion of my childhood either yelling or locked in her room threatening to kill herself. My dad is-- i don't know what, but there's something wrong with him. i would guess Aspergers, after taking that test a few weeks ago. It reminded me very much of him. My parents were very authoritative. Their word was law. As kids, we were not allowed to question their judgement or talk to them openly about our problems or feelings. If i ever disagreed with them or expressed a different view, they would start psychoanalyzing me, and tell me i was crazy. i grew up fearing that it might be true. i pretty much did what i was told, most of the time.

i don't mean to say that my parents were bad people. i think they tried to be good parents, but the fact is they were barely qualified to take care of themselves, let alone children. i didn't have proper clothing in the winter. We didn't always have enough to eat. What we did eat was mostly dry storage items. i remember eating Cosco muffins, raisin bran (without milk), and tortillas spread w/ peanut butter for months at a time. The electricity would get turned off. i didn't have enough clothes to wear. i used to get athlete's foot from re-wearing the same socks day after day, and there were people at school who thought i was homeless of something because i was always wearing the same clothes. i'm not exactly sure why these things happened. My parents both worked and they made good money. They should have been able to take care of their family. Still, i grew up in an environment of benign neglect.

i don't know if that's the reason i'm such a freak, or if i was one to begin with. i know that the problems of my childhood affected me more deeply than they did my other sisters. i think part of it was being the oldest. i had a lot of pressure on me. But part of it was just me. i'm overly sensitive and emotional. i tend to overreact to things, and i have a hard time letting go, moving on. When problems come up in my life, i dwell on them obsessively, and that turns into a cycle of failure. i have unreasonable expectations, i am easily depressed or disappointed, and i lack coping mechanisms. i think i'm my own worst enemy.

Anyway, to answer Your question, i do think that psychology and early childhood experiences played a part in making me submissive. i think of my submission as being a predisposition that had to be acted upon by environmental factors to bring it out, a combination of nature and nurture.

pam





BoiJen -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/4/2010 9:54:41 PM)

I think something to note is that one of the only things that's actually stuck from original Freudian theory is the relationship between childhood and adulthood. That there's a relationship between these phases of our lives is about the only thing Freud actually contributed to the psychology world as we experience it today.

Of course, there's some die-hard nut balls out there with degrees pushing Freudian theory but anybody worth listening to (like the majority of the APA) has dropped so much of what Freud put out there because of the lack of study standards and credibility associated with Freud's work.

Guess that's what happens when you're as high as a kite and can't distinguish between your own baggage and everyone else's-huh?

boi




phoenixmoonn13 -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 1:24:37 AM)

i and no abuse as a child was very boring and not very supportive, there was never much money and no one expected much of me or thought i would make anything it turned out i am dyslexic and ADD which explains a bit but was never picked up.

my mother in hindsight would probably ahve made a very good domme and my dad a male sub.

once i found out about the lifestyle and subs i realised its who i am.




ranja -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 2:06:43 AM)

i think everything that happens to a person makes them the way they are.... thing is though that everybody reacts in their own way to things...
what might make one into a more submissive person might help shape another to become more dominant
Some people think they were born a certain persuasion, but for many people things develop or even change during a life time, depending on how they react to what happens to them.




wandersalone -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 2:22:49 AM)

There are bound to be a ton of threads on this topic as this comes up fairly frequently.

Each time I answer that for myself and a number of my female submissive friends I had no abuse, my parents were/are white collar professionals, still together after 50 plus years of marriage and I had a loving relationship with my siblings.  I hated school but then who doesn't?  [:D]




MissAsylum -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 3:25:53 AM)

Well thank you for confirming that i am not stupid for not taking stock in what Freud says.I'm currently in an upper level psychology course (which is torture put nicely) where the vast majority of people in the class speak of Freud's theories as if they are law. Personally, i can't take a person serious if they were high out of their fucking skull 95% of the time and pushed others into addiction as well. But getting back to the message sender's theory- I have never been abused by my father or mother. They were strict at times, but to me, thats normal parenting. I was however, spoiled rotton when I had EARNED it. But again, I don't see that having anything to do with my dominance. EDITIED: i used a wrong letter lol




mnottertail -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 3:32:14 AM)

no, u am not stupid.




crazyml -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 3:36:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

I'm currently in an upper level psychology course (which is torture put nicely) where the vast majority of people in the class speak of Freud's theories as if they are law.


Sigh... Freud did make a huge contribution - but I do despair when people deify him. If I were you I'd just say "Meh, Freud was just a mustachioed pervert" and see how the worshippers react ;-)




MissAsylum -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 3:56:04 AM)

but u am tired and u am typing on a cell phone keypad[;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 3:57:44 AM)

lol. U am just teasing I.




MissAsylum -> RE: Psychology and BDSM (10/5/2010 4:02:59 AM)

he attempted to cure a friend with morphine while he was already addicted to something else. Yeah-i'll defy my pretty little head off. And I just may call him that- they are the type of people that I try to irritate on purpose. Its a cheap laugh and a bit immature on my part- but it makes me oh-so happy. lol




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