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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 8:20:17 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Let's go over a few things.  First, I haven't read your profile, but even from this thread here, it's obvious that you don't have any experience in M/s.  With this in mind, I'm going to attempt to use some analogies fron vanilla life that will draw parallels.

Your original is the same as "why can't a man just pick out a wife".  Now, if you want to skip the concept of mail order brides, that's not any more plausible than what you are asking here.  They aren't like puppies that you pick up at the pound.

Next, I want you to imagine a younger version of yourself.  Back to a time period before you were married or had children.  Now, imagine, say, that young twenty year old single man thinking he knew how to be a long term family man, knew how to raise children, compromise with his wife, etc, with the kind of mindset that most people have at twenty.  That twenty year old version of you wasn't competent at those family skills that the you of today really is because the old you didn't have the life experiences.  It's the same thing that, with no experience, you say you want to be the Master of a slave.  There's more to it than just saying that's what you want. 

The imbalance that you mention regarding a medium like this.  You are correct.  There have always been more males than females interested in the M/s lifestyle.  Add to that the fact that you are on the internet.  Even sites that don't involve any form of kink (an example like OKCupid or EHarmony) there are more male members than female members.  That means, no matter which side of the kneel (Dom or sub) it is going to boil down to the females having the selection power. 

Which means, yes, you really should go about this the same way that you would if you were competing for an employment position.  Now, what makes a person the most qualified for a position to a prospective employer?  Well, experience in the field is out.  That makes it sound pretty bad, doesn't it?  How about learning about the field?  How much of that have you done?  (I noticed Steven mentioned a pic from porn on your profile.  It that's how you're learning, stop that right now.)  Start learning from people who actually do this.  Join your local BDSM group or see if there is a chapter of MAsT in your area.

If you really want to do this, the best thing that you can do is take a practical approach, rather than a fantasy one.  Start investing in the reality side of things.  It doesn't mean that you are going to have a slave tomorrow, but you'll be on your way.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 9:10:37 AM   
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how can I find a real female slave to acquire?

If you don't know, then you don't have enough exposure or experience to own and operate one.
Go get a vanilla wannabee and learn the ropes together with her or buy wife from an impoverished nation like so many others do.  
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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 9:37:15 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Rumor has it that the CIA traffics. I have no idea what price they ask, though.

Alternatively - and cheaply - you might acquire a female slave in Ghana or Nigeria. I dunno if you have to pay import taxes, though. Best fly over there yourself in case they sell you an old hag.

Not nearly as expensive as cia-slaves are Wallmart slaves and McDonalds-slaves. Simply go to one of their magnificent establishments and place your order.

As a last resort I point you to the millionaire solution: Get on a reality show like Oprahs, show her your twenty million dollar credit account and make your choice out of the respondents.

Good luck!

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 10:38:32 AM   
sweetsub1957


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ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy

My name is John and I have been using CM for a few months now, and have had some good and positive results here. My question is, how can I find a real female slave to acquire?
First of all, what is weal and twue? That depends on the person looking and works for Doms as well as subs, btw.
I have had some great conversations with women on here and do feel many are serious and genuine. I read many profiles from women who seem to really desire finding a man to give themselves to as slaves in a very real sense, which I do really appreciate about this site. Unfortunately, submissive women on here recieve thousands of emails a day from men wanting them, so they choose and select whatever interests them.
Of course. Anyone with a brain will choose and select.
While men must do all the searching, and if they're lucky, they may get an occassional women to correspond with them briefly. It leaves me wondering why a man can't just pick a slave he desires and take her home.
Because women are people and you can't just do that.
I am older at 53, which tends to limit most younger women desiring someone closer to their age, which makes this seem more like a typical dating site.
Okay. Imagine yourself at 20something. Now would you want to be with a 50something woman? Think about that for a minute.
Women are simply selecting men they choose to be in a relationship with. But that all lacks the concept of real slavery to me.
Any woman with a brain will select and be choosy. Real slavery is against the law btw.
If a man desires to own a woman as property and use her as his slave, where does he find such a woman.
You can find her at Slaveway.
I have talked with some people on here that suggest there are organizations or something that really buy and sell women. where are these people? Is there a place to really find women who are really for sell. I realize all of that is illegal, and thus not really out in the open, but there must be some way to find a woman to really own.
Sure. It's called human trafficking and it's mega-illegal.
Some profiles on here seem real close to saying that is what they desire, but yet, how do you really get her to come be your slave.
You inspire her to be your slave. Would you really want some mindless idiot who will kneel to just any man? How does that make you special?
You end up emailing and chatting and then if she really likes you and what you have to offer her, then she might visit. It still seems so much like a woman selecting a man she is interested in dating and a relationship.
Whether or not it's romantic is between the people involved, but D/s and M/s are definitely some kind of relationship. At least in my mind.
If anything like what some of these profiles suggest were remotely real, a man simply should be able to select the slave he wants and take her. It seems the ideas are here and real enough, but the reality of it seems difficult to actually attain.
Some profiles are more based on popular porn than on reality. That's the cold, hard truth of it all.
Please any advice or suggestions are welcome.

I read your profile, and I see nothing in there that says what kind of woman you want specifically, other than a breeder who is sexually hyperactive. Were I single, I know I certainly would pass it by. It says nothing about why she should pick you over anyone else.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 12:42:33 PM   
softslavetoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: softslavetoy

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ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy
women seem to have all the power and control of who they would relent to go out with. Is there no way for men to achieve more dominence in selecting what women they will take?


That's the way it should be. Women are ultimately the superior sex and all men should be (and are) subservient to them. If a female is to play a 'slave' to a man it's only because it gives her pleasure to do so, and the 'owner' is essentially used to please her.

Seriously though, you have to realise how much of what people desire is actually a fantasy which no one would really want to happen in real life, though admitting that spoils the fantasy a bit. I am sure you don't really believe any human being should be sold against their will. Yet posting this thread and fantasising that it 'could' be real gives you pleasure, which is all very nice as no one is really getting harmed in any way. But bear that in mind when you are 'hunting' for a slave; that you are really looking for someone who would be willing to 'pretend' that you own her.


You're a new poster, so welcome.  That said, if you think that women can only own and not be owned, you need to get out more.  From what I've seen, maledom relationships are much more common that femdom.  And they're not pretending it, either.




Thanks. I didn't mean the femdom part seriously. Still, unless you are talking about trafficking etc. (which I think you are not), people who 'choose' to be a slave do so because it's the option that's more rewarding to them, even if it paradoxically means that they will sometimes be doing things they don't want, it is still ultimately what 'they' do want. So perhaps women don't rule the world, but in consensual slave/master arrangements they are in reality equal, and the choices are mutual.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 1:16:44 PM   
odysseyIndeed


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Status: offline 		It's a two-way street. The man and woman choose each other. I doubt you are going to blindly accept any woman, regardless of who she is or what she wants in her life, that sends you a message or responds to one of yours. It's the same for women. You are not anyone's Dominant or Master unless or until she submits to you. Until that time, you have no right to expect her to come to you just because it's what you want. You want a woman's submission before you have done anything.
How would you feel if a woman came on here and said she was a slave and since Masters are supposed to be responsible for slaves, she thinks she should just be able to pick any "Master" on  here to send her money for groceries. She would be wanting something she might expect within the M/s dynamic before she has the right to expect care under his authority. You are wanting a slave's submission before You have gained the right to have authority over her.
Women are just as human as men and as such deserve the right to enter into a relationship willingly, just as you do.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 1:30:13 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		More importantly op, would you really want a woman who despised being with you? Who was constantly trying to escape you? Who made it clear that your touch made her nauseous? Who hated you? You really think this is preferable to being a man who keeps his word, who thinks before he speaks, and who is loved and revered by his woman because she knows she can trust him to be even more careful with her than she is of herself?

An analogy, would you prefer a brand new BMW that needed to be kept garaged, and washed to prevent salt causing rust, or would you prefer a car that goes for $600 and has no guarantee the engine won't seize up tomorrow. Because you're trying to buy the new sportscar with the funds that provide a teen's first car. Ain't gonna happen.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 2:14:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you really think a woman should be so undiscerning about who she serves then it would make sense that the one being served should be just as undiscerning about who serves him...  Head to the inner city, I'm sure you can find a meth head who would prefer serving you rather then having to blow anyone who asks and life on the streets...

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 2:24:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't sound to me like you have nearly enough experience to be taking a 24/7 kind of arrangement head on so do your prospective slave and yourself a favour and do some learning first. And as far as it goes, my inbox is hardly a shopping cart. Deciding what works is a two way street that takes a whole lot of care and self knowledge from both parties. I don't want 'a' partner. I want the RIGHT partner, and I sure in hell aint going to pick the one waving his arms in the air saing me! me! me! How embarrassing for him!

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 2:31:42 PM   
crazyml


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Status: offline 		meh... I see you only set the flame-thrower to "scorch" then...

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 2:59:35 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		Dark Steven and locket (Both people I have known for over a decade here on CM and both who know their stuff as well as being (in reference to DS) someone who I respect and (in reference to locket), someone who I both adore and who I'd love to snaffle into my Qantas bag and import her to Aussie) have made very valid points. If the OP manages to fine the magick elixir to suddenly bring forth slaves on command, he stands to make millions as there are a whole plethora of Gorean Masters who have been patiently waiting and looking for years ere they find a suitable girl. Even non Gorean Masters have to wait for a considerable time to locate a suitable slave (In my case my collars have been empty for the last 5 years). My advise to the OP is to mingle with the local kinksters, get known, let others see that you are a genuine sort of bloke who they are happy to add to their circle of social friends even though you lack experience. There are many out there who are only happy to lend a helping hand at time to a genuine sort of bloke and in time you may find that suitable subs will come your way willingly. Forget slaves at the moment because you need the experience with subs who are not 24/7 to start with. I know more than one girl who started off as a sub with a new Master and who latter re-submitted to him as his slave as he matured and became more of what he could be.

edited to add:

If you have never driven an F1 race car, would you seriously jump into one with no driving experience? Thought not, start with a family sedan first (second hand preferably)

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 3:55:24 PM   
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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 6:00:48 PM   
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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 6:50:33 PM   
DesFIP


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy
Is there no way for men to achieve more dominence in selecting what women they will take? Perhaps I am not the greatest prize for a slave to win, but isn't it the Master/Dom who should have say in what slave he acquires as opposed to sending out thousands of emails to women hoping to attract one or two that may be interested in him.


It's a relationship between two people. Both of whom have to choose each other. You get to say whether or not you will acquire her and she gets to say whether or not you may acquire her. You aren't obligated to take the first one that's willing, and neither is she.

Again, would you really want a woman who didn't want you?


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 7:50:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Simply put, the world of bdsm is still the human world. This is not some magical world where all the rules change. The man's only option is to make himself as available, attractive, and eligible as he can. it is the woman's role to choose. Why exactly would that change here? I would even say that if a woman represents herself as not wanting to have any choice in who she gives herself to, you may as well ignore that profile entirely.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 8:15:47 PM   
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Simply put, the world of bdsm is still the human world. This is not some magical world where all the rules change. The man's only option is to make himself as available, attractive, and eligible as he can. it is the woman's role to choose. Why exactly would that change here? I would even say that if a woman represents herself as not wanting to have any choice in who she gives herself to, you may as well ignore that profile entirely.



If you're trying to say that the man has no say whatsoever, I disagree with you.  You almost make it sound like it's nonconsensual.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 8:25:44 PM   
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Seriously, to the OP, in the spirit of male comraderie and fraternal assistance, here are a few tips I have learned:

1. Men always chase women. BDSM isn't really any different than the bars you used to pick up women at; guys want what women offer, women want what guys don't want to offer, and the dance goes on eternally.

2. In order to attract women, you have to focus less on what you want, than on what you offer. "I want to fuck you without having to buy dinner" doesn't work much better in BDSM than it does at TGI Fridays, no matter what the porn vids claim.
Describe yourself on your profile, and speak more about who you are- what sort of person you are, what you like to do- what does family guy want to do in 10 years time, what sort of life would a girl have with you?

3. Demographics are your friend, not foe; there were just as many girls born in 1957 as boys- really, I checked! There are plenty of 45-50 year old women who see a 53 year old man as a real catch. And the cool thing is, they all get the whole middle aged so when we talk about our concerns and worries, they don't cock their head to one side and wear a puzzled frown.

You see the pattern here right? Even the True Slaves (and trust me friend, don't ever use that term, here or elsewhere. Just don't.) are women pretty much like any women anywhere, just that they like to follow a man and have him lead.

As others here have mentioned, all the "slave farms/ slave factory/ slave academy" stuff is just wank fodder.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 8:35:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		sighs...I know people were trying not to snark, but please OP, Really???

Why intelligent posters on a message board should have to explain to a 53 year old man that whining about how to acquire a real female slave is beyond me.

OP, some of us live in the real world. Some live in the dual worlds of reality and fantasy. And some dwell perpetually in the land of fantasy.

Those people are often the ones who post things like this and whine about how women get to do the choosing and why should men have to court a woman or sub or slave, and how it should be as easy as going to Costco and just picking a girl off a rack.

I see you are married. Did you just go to a wife auction and pick one out with no input from her?

Why would it be any different seeking a D/s partner.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 9:44:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		That you (the OP) would even consider trading in illegal goods (people) because you are too lazy to make yourself into someone that a woman might want willingly, is too disgusting to contemplate.  Do you really put so little value on human life?

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 10:43:56 PM   
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Quote:

"If you're trying to say that the man has no say whatsoever, I disagree with you.  You almost make it sound like it's nonconsensual."

The man has a choice in whom he pays attention to, Whom he speaks to, Whom he gives time to, etc. Also he has a choice - ONCE HE IS CHOSEN. And hey, if he's chosen by more than one woman... it becomes a choice of women and not just a yes/no decision. Honestly. I assume a certain degree of comprehension here, and if you really thought I was saying that when chosen, a man then has no choice, I'd consider it a favor if you simply disregarded any future statements I post here.

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