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ranja -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/7/2010 2:19:32 AM)

ah, i have done some very nice cyber stuff; porn, romantic and erotic stuff, role play, training and journaling...
i find it is like everything i like to do with a partner... dependent on the input of the other... and the 'right' other to inspire me is not always just there at the right time.



January -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/7/2010 8:36:11 PM)

Hi MakeClear,

Yeah, I used to get a big kick out of #cybersex, way back when. Like you, I thought the process was like an interactive story. Not porn, but certainly erotica.

But my husband viewed these spontaneous online explorations with strangers as cheating. I thought of it as live romance novel building. I stopped the day he told me about his discomfort.

Now I write sex stories for a wider audience. I still get to invent fabulous scenes.

January



DarklySubtle -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/7/2010 9:57:25 PM)

Something that I have seen on other boards, but not here, is the sexual roleplay or SRP: It's simply a discussion thread like this one, only written cooperatively by two or more posters as an erotic story.

I make a distinction between SRPs and cybering (writing back and forth in real time via PM or IM). SRPs, generally speaking, are much easier to make genuinely erotic, as opposed to merely pornographic, because you quite simply have more time to work with.

I haven't done it in awhile (I had a great writing partner who stopped posting due to personal issues), so I guess you could consider me a "lost scener" (Just as an aside, I thought initially that MakeClear might have been looking for people who liked to write Lost fanfic.) If there are any ladies out there who might enjoy shaping a fictional adventure, I'm willing to talk via PM and see whether our interests and styles match up well. Perhaps this lost scener can be found again.



sunshinemiss -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 5:00:23 AM)

One of my favorite scenes to write was making a pot of coffee.  It was such a challenge to create something with all the senses, see the pic in my head and put it in words.  Awareness of the "physical space" and my own body, limbs, stretching, maneuvering to do something so simple!  It has helped me become a much better writer.  Often writing is about deconstructing something, breaking it down to the most forgetful things... and then remembering and describing them.  I did enjoy that!

best,
sunshine



MakeClear -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 6:38:26 AM)

Hmm, two ideas: one is co-authoring a story over the canvas of a message board, and the other, I think i'm more familar with. I used to see wonderful subs, in the chatrooms, here or otherwise, describe something action by action; no matter no small. I think it conveyed the depth of the submission, it was quite wonderful to see. I'm definitely one who isn't so minute, though if i had a domme who would press the matter, i would do line after line of me, say, 'opening the fridge' :P, but usually, me and another would focus on the beats.

Regarding a possible group of 'lost sceners' who contact each other, with stories, ideas, plays, scenes even the evolution of a living 'ideas space' could be too ambitious?

P.S Are you a novelist, January?



January -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 6:54:00 AM)

MakeClear,

Yup. I write BDSM erotica, Sci-fi romance and thrillers under a variety of pen names.

January



MakeClear -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 7:09:08 AM)

I'll have to add you to my night-time reading.

On the non-smutty side, i write some sci-fi and just tried some more 'R' and/or 'NC-17' fare, I just blush though.



AquaticSub -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 8:43:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MakeClear

We could be at the head of a revival! A new vanguard! However, I have a charisma bypass. :P

How would you say things are evolving and what are these corners of the internet you talk about, or have you said too much?...

Now i know, crazy. Thanks, I was happy in the illusion ;)


You'll have cmail in a bit :-)



ExSteelAgain -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/8/2010 2:20:27 PM)

I used to cyber so much I bet I could have written several books in instant messages. I agree it's an art when two, intelligent, sensitive people get into a give and take session. For some reason, I got out of it, but I still have fond memories of those creative hours spent soaring to emotional heights.



CelticPrince -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/9/2010 10:17:42 AM)

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The kind that thought cybersex was quite, frankly an art form and a vessel for story and were driven from the internet (like myself), including the nearby irc chatrooms, by others who quite frankly hate story and engage in cybersex with as much shame about the english language as they can?

I know I am going to get flamed to hell, but it seems those that loved weaving a fictional tale with another person have become extinct (or just regressed) Take your pick!


MC,

Indeed it is a dying art, not because it is/was a bad thing but simply because most would not/ could not lend the necessary mental emotion to bring a touch of reality to it.

Good subject.

CP



MakeClear -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/9/2010 1:18:43 PM)

Hmm, perhaps it was always like this and the only thing that's changed is our standards.

I flash back to the defunt gay.com teen chat room, remembering i'd settle for wordsmiths i wouldn't dream settling for now. Perhaps, i've also been spoilt by great partners.

Yet, i feel the internet has also shifted and the nature of erotica on the internet has changed and squeezed things like roleplay out. The public perception of cybersex is a bad one, and most people don't value words in and out of themselves- second hand information, but i believe they are still hooking it up on Second Life and WoW.

Also, the nature of identity in the internet has shifted greatly. We are in the facebook generation, where everyone has to have their name published onto one big database, so there is definitely more suspecting eyes on 'fakes' etc. (I'm kinda worried when the big totalitarian state takes over, they'll have a ready census of who to take out ;))

Finally, (i'll shut up now) I think the internet has just profilerated, there is just more idiots (another flameable sentiment :P)

Does anyone have any other ideas why it has somewhat, at least, appeared, to atrophy?



January -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/9/2010 7:52:07 PM)

quote:

Does anyone have any other ideas why it has somewhat, at least, appeared, to atrophy?


I wonder if it's a lack of imagination. It's takes a lot work, creativity and flexibility to meld sexually on the Internet. It's easier just to play video games or passively watch porn.

January



wipsawd -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/10/2010 2:45:13 PM)

I used to love irc chat. I was one of those fanatics that used to be on line all night. I met a wonderful submissive lady and married her. I tried IRC again last summer after a long absence from the net ( about a decade ) and found that all the poetry had gone out of the net. I miss it terribly.



Heartlynew -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/10/2010 6:30:51 PM)

I fully support the notion of role playing. It's healthy and keeps your largest sex organ active - your mind. I'd be willing to stimulate your brain a bit if you'd want to dive into a couple stories via emails.



slavelynn95008 -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/10/2010 7:28:46 PM)

cyber is ok but real is for fulfillment



fatamazon -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/11/2010 4:03:52 AM)

We might be setting a group kept together by a meet, say every week or fortnight or so, where can talk about roleplay or even engage if we all develop a cool relationship with each other.

But still just an idea so far between some friends. If MakeClear or anyone might be interested.

P.S We don't call it cyber though :P and check your inbox, MakeClear.



wipsawd -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/11/2010 2:33:41 PM)

I could be interrested. If you get something going, email me.

J.



ExSteelAgain -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/11/2010 4:55:17 PM)

I believe when many of us got into cybering, role play or whatever you call it, the whole thing was a novelty with psychological characteristics that made it extremely appealing. It was a relaxed, anonymous give and take of our deepest thoughts we wouldn’t tell our real life friends about.

Those of us into BDSM found it especially appealing because we could find like minded, nonjudgmental friends…a group therapy of sorts. Going through that experience for a few years was mind expanding. Add that to sometimes meeting our cyber partners/friends and there was a keyboard trembling excitement when getting online and seeing certain names pop up.

So what happened? Mainly, it was a once in a lifetime experience as our emotions unfolded in front of us. We didn’t realize the excitement that would come and that made it even more appealing. Now WE KNOW what happens. We know the time and effort that goes into these relationships that results in a strong bonding. In addition, many of us took our cyber friends with us into relationships.

An interesting point I noticed in chat rooms back then is those who didn’t write well disparaged the whole process. In any case, it’s an interesting part of our BDSM pop culture.



WolfyMontgomery -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/11/2010 6:30:01 PM)

Fast reply--

I was always an avid Roleplayer. Not as much anymore, but a year ago and before that I was always on this one RP chatroom and people knew me by -... well, I'd say by name, but everyone knew that because your name is posted next to everything you say, hah!

I've never knocked people who cyber (okay, I have, but only the ones that keep pestering me for it after I say no for the fifth time), though it was never something for me. If there's sex in my RP, its because my character happened to fall for another, such and such... sparks fly, etc. Whenever someone asks me how much smut I like to story, I say story 80-90%, smut 10-20%, if applicable at all. I do enjoy it during those times, but I don't enjoy it in and of itself, I enjoy it because in some stories, it's a major integral part of the story, and I like getting down and dirty either in love or hate or war or whatever the plot and characters involved calls for.

For me, it is pretty depressing when - even in my old favorite RP chatroom - 90% of the people are in it just for the smut. It's the reason why I've stopped for the most part, because I'd walk in and everyone is actually surprised that I'm not there just for getting my jollies off. That and the time college consumes, that makes RP hard too.



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Any lost sceners out there? (10/11/2010 7:26:36 PM)

I absolutely loved text-based roleplay, and for more than a decade had the priviledge of creating the most amazing storylines with genuinely talented writers. I'm not sure if my muse ditched me for fresher talent, or if I outgrew the need for that form of escape. Sometimes I miss it. In a very real way, I found my voice when I found the internet and the creative expression of rp. I didn't just find my voice, but I also found an unknown confidence and pride in myself that had been stiffled and beaten down. Yep, I found cyber too, and it opened up an entirely NEW world of sexual expression that a sexually repressed Southern Baptist, submit thyself unto they husband kinda gal had never known existed.

I'll never underestimated the powerful emotional bonds that can be formed with those you write collaboratively with. I haven't rp'd in years, but I still keep in touch with most of those I began rp'ing with even as far back as 14+ years ago.




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