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ORIGINAL: strangedesire

You do realize that practicing therapists have a lot more schooling than you, and generally go through residencies where they work under the supervision of others, right? Working effectively as a therapist takes a lot more than the basic university psychology classes and some research on "how to talk to people with depression." Even when I worked as a counselor, we did a lot of work on ethics, a lot of work on setting professional boundaries, and received huge amounts of supervision as we learned to effectively communicate in a therapeutic way.

BTW, a Psychologist is someone with a PhD and some professional licensing besides. I strongly suggest that you take that word out of your profile before you get yourself in legal trouble.

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ORIGINAL: HypnoPants
You misunderstood her, she was talking about people going off on every other topic other than the very first post in the topic.

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ORIGINAL: HypnoPants

ah, I figured being a question of training... I'd ask a mistress, being as they'd understand a question of training and of the female psyche, dominant or submissive, they'd still know the female psyche better than I.

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The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

FR

OP, if you go on a forum and find that you consider a majority of the regular posters on a given thread to be trolls, it may not be the forum for you. Not all forums are for everyone-no shame in that. But if you accuse every single person who disagrees with you or says something you don't want to hear of being a troll then you come across as a troll yourself.

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Anyways, I write down anything she does during a depressive attack that may have hurt me physically or mentally... so that we can discuss it at a later date, or to punish her for, etc.
Punishments are done ONLY when she's stable enough to handle them.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I keep reading how you can't see a doc for your depression.

I really really don't understand this. Why not?

I mean no matter how poor you are you can still see someone other than your Dom but an actual professional. There are docs with sliding scale fees and even some who will see you for free or at least payment plans.

I've been dirt broke without even a penny to spare and I've been able to see someone for my depression.

If it's because you say you don't have time..make time or die. It's that simple when it comes to your health.

Your Dom is not a professional even if he claims to be majoring in it. He'll always have a bias in which he really can't help you.

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ORIGINAL: January

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Anyways, I write down anything she does during a depressive attack that may have hurt me physically or mentally... so that we can discuss it at a later date, or to punish her for, etc.
Punishments are done ONLY when she's stable enough to handle them.

HYPNO.

You have got to be kidding!

You have no clue what you are doing. You can never, ever train anyone by this technique. It is ineffective and petty. If she's so bad off that you cannot react immediately and calmly, DON'T ever punish her later for it. No wonder this poor girl is depressed. And yes, her depression, or hostility or violent outbursts, or whatever issues she has, has everything to do with the responses you will get.

Whether you like it or not.

January

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I prefer to call people who disagree with me "fakes".  It shows more class.

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ORIGINAL: HypnoPants

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: CollarSubGirl

My turn to respond :)

Now I just wanted to explain, there are certain things right now in my life that do not allow me to go to a psychologist nor a psychiatrist. Hopefully one day soon I will be able to go to one but right now, it is not an option. But we are working through it and it's not the point of this forum. Neither is the fact that I have depression part of this forum. I think that the trollers on here who have changed the topic of this conversation.

The point of this forum was asking if giving aftercare after a very very painful and well deserved punishment would help "lock in" the punishment into the slaves mind. Now, I'm going to repost the orignal topic and please don't start talking about my depression like I'm some little child who is being bullied and the whole class needs to talk about it to make them stop.

Yes I do thank you for all the advice and it has helped Master and I discuss several things but Master is REALLY REALLY looking for advice to the orginal question.

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ORIGINAL: HypnoPants

The boards are for every permutation of question and topic. No one controls the boards except the mods. The topics are not written in stone and threads often become organic, based on responses.

No one is a mind reader here and everyone replies based on information given.

So if you want to be upset at anyone, be upset at your guy, since he was one who introduced depression into the mix.

You may also want to educate him that calling those who reply to a thread "trolls" when he does not like the answer is not the best way to go. Trolls are usually posting for wanking materials and I can assure you, no one here  thinks what he or you wrote is wanking material.

You cannot control the content of the boards, nor can you dictate who replies and in what manner.

Agreed, trolling such as yours is inevitable.
I will be sure to learn from my mistakes.

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ORIGINAL: HypnoPants

... ugh, thank you for enlighteningly useless off-topic trolling.

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Yes, I think he's probably coming from a good place, but he's going about it poorly, and he doesn't know enough to see that.

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Punishment has three forms.  The first, which ideally (in my mind) doesn't show up in BDSM at all, is a form of bullying or psychological torture, designed to break the resistance of the target.  This is often quite harmful.  (snip)  The second type is formal/ritual punishment. Some dominants use this for large issues that threaten the relationship, and some submissives find that it helps them let go of guilt for transgressions.  In my mind, this kind of punishment is only useful for a behavior that the submissive can choose to correct.  (snip)  The third type of punishment is drawn from the behaviorist model of operant conditioning.  Operant conditioning is useful for stopping specific behaviors.  (Or creating new ones.)  Unlike ritual punishment, it has been scientifically shown to decrease unwanted behaviors.  Unfortunately, to be effective, punishment usually must be delivered during or immediately after the behavior.  The effects of it can be mitigated if the benefits of continuing the behavior are significantly rewarding...  (snip)  A final word on operant conditioning:  behaviorist models don't acknowledge that the mind exists - they study only behavior.  So the methods within may emotionally scar people.  Classic behaviorists don't really care, because they mostly study rats, and rats don't complain too much.  (snip)  For people, cognitive-behavioral models are generally preferred.