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alexislave4u -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/30/2010 8:07:57 AM)
as said early in this discussion alot dont like it because younger arent seeking the older....i bet the older ones on here complaining are still sending the younger emails

TotalDiscipline -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/30/2010 8:46:27 AM)
Not sure about that, because lot of females like an older male. There is soemone for everyone propably on here. People should focus on that, not on what they cannot get or do not like. (although it is nice to talk about)

RavenMuse -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/30/2010 9:04:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterMartinIndy Have you really been alive long enough to know this is what you want. [sm=confused.gif] Sunshine, some of Us old farts have been here for a long time, nobody wonders if We knew what We wanted/needed when We came in simply because We are still here...... Personally I found the lifestyle when I was in My mid teens, by the time I hit twenty I had almost 5 years in the lifestyle. More RL experience than many who are on the boards that no-one would even THINK to question about such a thing. Sure if they ACT clueless then such a question maybe justified, but that's as true of someone age 50 acting clueless. Some probably don't, others its a phase, but some... in twenty years time they will be stood where I am now. Probably making a post like this to some knee-jerk ageist OP

PeonForHer -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/30/2010 10:22:52 AM)
FR The thing that strikes me as pertaining most to this thread is a line I've quoted often, that 'desires change with the means of achieving them'. Fantasies stay in the fantasy world, where they often (though not always) fade and die, because it doesn't feel like they'll ever be realised. If I'd know that D/s was a real-life possibility at age fifteen, I'd have put my brain to working out exactly how I could get it. Just as, so I hear, many more self-aware gay or lesbian teens did in a way that most gays and lesbians hadn't a few decades before the time when I was a teenager. Yep, I do think there's a tendency, which is to say not true of the entire group, for teens and younger people to think they know more than they do. I know I was an arrogant twat in my early to mid-twenties. There's also a tendency for older people to be temperamentally more conservative and less optimistic about the possibilities of changing their lives. What this boils down to, I think, is that older people and younger people will tend both to have good sex/love lives, and fuck up their sex/love lives, in different ways.

tazzygirl -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/30/2010 10:53:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rachel576 i think there must be a lot of young people, like myself, that are here to find out more about this and do decide if it really is for them, and if you are upfront and honest about that theres no problem i wouldn't like to think that some of the older, more experienced members of the site somehow think we're less entitled to be here just because of age Im sorry rachel, I didnt see your post until now. I dont look to age as a measuring guide. Its all about attitude. There are just as many 50 year olds who need to "grow up" as there are 20 year olds. And, to be honest, I give the 20 year olds more leeway.

blmtrsne -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 3:01:44 PM)
When I look around me, young girls are different from the ones from my generation used to be. We were refusing to step in the shoes of our mother who gave up their lives to be a happy and caring housewife. But we had to learn about taking the lead and (for some of us) to be a Domme. Nowadays youngsters in Europe (Belgium) saw at least a few films about SM and act like little Dommes: if you want to be with me, you will do as I say... Maybe we shouldn't look with the same scope at these youngsters because a lot has changed. They might not be perfect Dommes, but they start with another perspective. My slave encountered a young woman with a little pathetic male running behind Her carrying Her bags. He stopped and gave the bags to Her because She was stepping in a railway. My husband/slave looked at it a little bit amused, and She reponded by saying that being beautifull has it's advantages. He encouraged Her by responding that He found the situation not unusual at all.

Focus50 -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 5:18:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RavenMuse quote: ORIGINAL: MasterMartinIndy Have you really been alive long enough to know this is what you want. [sm=confused.gif] Sunshine, some of Us old farts have been here for a long time, nobody wonders if We knew what We wanted/needed when We came in simply because We are still here...... Personally I found the lifestyle when I was in My mid teens, by the time I hit twenty I had almost 5 years in the lifestyle. More RL experience than many who are on the boards that no-one would even THINK to question about such a thing. Sure if they ACT clueless then such a question maybe justified, but that's as true of someone age 50 acting clueless. Some probably don't, others its a phase, but some... in twenty years time they will be stood where I am now. Probably making a post like this to some knee-jerk ageist OP Crikey Raven, how can you live to your age and know so very little beyond attacking the messenger (OP) with populist, politically correct cliches' ("knee-jerk ageist OP") for daring to ask a valid question?? Anyone who thinks today's teenagers are any more wise, mature or responsible than teenagers of any other generation is a delusional fop who needs to get out of his basement more often and visit the real world. The fact is the very young are largely onsite because they can. A couple of buzz words on Google and all is revealed without even getting out of bed. This is what passes for "discovering/exploring those dark inner needs" the teens here wanna spout about - along with all their rights to do so, naturally! pfft To me, it's nothing more than another example of this month's red hot video game being next month's yawn...! I wonder how many of the young here would be exploring their "need" if they had to troll seedy adult stores/book shops etc and ask embarrassing questions or answer ads found only in special publications kept under the counter etc. Most likely NONE of them! A need comes from living and experiencing life and realising that something is missing. For the young here, it's like they've skipped the 3 R's of learning altogether and expecting to short-cut straight into university - and demand they be respected as equals with it...! At least the attitude is recognisable (and typical).... You appreciate and can respect that which you or someone has worked hard to achieve. I'll respect the young here after they show me reason why I should - just showing up don't cut it...! Errrm, and good to see you back again ol mate - miss me? [8D] Focus.

AquaticSub -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 5:25:04 PM)
Well you are wrong about the none part. At 18, I gathered up my metaphorical balls, gathered some male friends I trusted and started hitting up every little pervy shop in my college town. Not that I expect respect for that or anything else in particular. Just every time I get on this thread I think of Johnny Cash and the song "What is true" - particularly the idea of teaching the young instead of yelling at them.

WolfyMontgomery -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 5:33:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub Just every time I get on this thread I think of Johnny Cash and the song "What is true" - particularly the idea of teaching the young instead of yelling at them. When people yell at me I tend to curl up in a little sobby ball... not good for personal development. But if you're gonna teach, can I get my notebook and take notes? =D I promise I won't distract myself by doodling too much!

Focus50 -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 5:41:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub Well you are wrong about the none part. At 18, I gathered up my metaphorical balls, gathered some male friends I trusted and started hitting up every little pervy shop in my college town. Not that I expect respect for that or anything else in particular. Just every time I get on this thread I think of Johnny Cash and the song "What is true" - particularly the idea of teaching the young instead of yelling at them. Just to be clear, expressing an unpalatable opinion constitutes me "yelling"? Not sure why you seem threatened; it's not like too many have the courage to openly agree with the good sense I've expressed.... wink Focus.

AquaticSub -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 6:01:43 PM)
I don't know you think I feel threatened. You pose positively no threat to my ability to attend BDSM events in my community. It would be foolish to feel threatened in this situation.

DMFParadox -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 6:19:50 PM)
Let me tell you a story about a man I know. A good friend. His name is "Fern". Close enough to be a nickname, so I'm not changing names to protect the innocent. He would go to dance clubs and break them. Dude had more moves than Jackie Chan. Oh, he also taught martial arts. Arms like iron rods. I couldn't move them with my entire body weight and a running start. No lie. Socially, he was a bit retarded, but he did alright. Girls would just follow him around anyway, because of his mad acrobatic skillz. Almost universally one of their first questions was, "How old are you?" Because he was not young. Clearly not young. Just young at heart. He would never tell them. They would persist. Sometimes all night. Sometimes for weeks. He would never share. Nobody in my social set had any idea of how old the guy actually was. One of the things he'd say to answer was, "I am as old as the donut." Or other illogical, brain-cracking things like that. Maybe not so socially retarded, after all... And in the end, it didn't matter. The girl he wanted to go home with, he'd go home with and never share his age. Moral: If you're young enough to hang tough, you're young enough. So just don't tell anyone your age. If it will alter their perception of you unfairly, then it's none of their business. A corollary to that: On a dating site with mandatory age display, lie. Go ahead. And if your date tries to find out, deflect, joke, and/or bust their chops over it. Make it clear that it's not your real age, but beyond that just don't share. Because in the now, it truly does not matter. As long as you can keep up with them, it's all good. Of course if you really CAN'T keep up with the younger set then go hit the gym, brook no excuses, but don't try to misrepresent your capacities. That's the kind of lie that can make you more of a douche.

PeonForHer -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 9:10:17 PM)
FR, Just to say: Younger people are fine, but for one thing: I just wish some of them would look for somebody other than me to oppress them. I haven't got the frigging energy.

Tantriqu -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (10/31/2010 9:23:56 PM)
OMG, at 17 I would have killed to have 1. the internet and 2. a site like this. To have composed as an Introduction, 'Hi, er, I'm 17 and with my first real boyfriend. Is it normal to make him kneel before me, have him eat me out and then fuck him in the ass?', and to have heard over the troll-whining and do-me' marrieds and misogynistic ranting and snideness about using the search function, a resounding YEA, Sistah Offisah! . . . I still [smirk] made out fine, but it would have been a lot easier. So welcome all young Dommes: c'mon in, the water is troll-infested, but otherwise fine.

Focus50 -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 12:29:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub I don't know you think I feel threatened. You pose positively no threat to my ability to attend BDSM events in my community. It would be foolish to feel threatened in this situation. I think you feel threatened simply because this isn't the first time you've taken one of my posts in this topic personally and responded defensively to it. Life experience has taught me that when words contradict actions, I take most notice of actions... But I am confused as to what your attending BDSM events in your community has to do with me. The whole comment just seems to contradict all that wisdom and maturity I keep hearing about in this thread from CM's young.... Go figger...! And for the general record, since it seems a popular barb at us oldies here, the last time 56yo Focus propositioned a teenager, he was barely out of his teens himself. Focus.

AquaticSub -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 12:37:21 AM)
If you think I feel defensively towards you, I can't stop you. That doesn't make it true though. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. Sometimes I choose to discuss it with you, sometimes I don't. Just as I am sure that sometimes you choose to discuss it with me and sometimes you don't. The simple truth is that I do not feel threatened by you in any way. The reason I mentioned it is the because the only way your opinion on youth could affect me or threaten me is if you could affect my ability to attend community events since we are in no way interested in each other. Since we aren't and you can't... you and your opinion on youth has positively no threat or affect to me. That I choose to discuss your opinions with you at the moment implies no more defensiveness from me to you than you to me.

RapierFugue -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 2:38:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub I don't know you think I feel threatened. You pose positively no threat to my ability to attend BDSM events in my community. It would be foolish to feel threatened in this situation. I think you feel threatened simply because this isn't the first time you've taken one of my posts in this topic personally and responded defensively to it. Life experience has taught me that when words contradict actions, I take most notice of actions... But I am confused as to what your attending BDSM events in your community has to do with me. The whole comment just seems to contradict all that wisdom and maturity I keep hearing about in this thread from CM's young.... Go figger...! Focus. One has to feel sympathy for some of those contributing to this thread; if they don’t rise to your barbed comments and general aggression then you start crowing, and if they do then you condescendingly mock them for being “unwise”. Seems they can’t win either way. Reading back over your comments, most especially: quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 Crikey Raven, how can you live to your age and know so very little beyond attacking the messenger (OP) with populist, politically correct cliches' ("knee-jerk ageist OP") for daring to ask a valid question?? Anyone who thinks today's teenagers are any more wise, mature or responsible than teenagers of any other generation is a delusional fop who needs to get out of his basement more often and visit the real world. ... the conclusion (other than the fact that you seem to have a worrying habit of generalising to the point of obfuscation) seems to be that you don’t believe that sensible people, faced with information, can (it's not automatic that they actually do, of course) assimilate that information and put it to good use – it’s not that the current generation are inherently smarter or more wise, but simply that, in many cases, they’re better informed. Obviously, this doesn't make them geniuses, because wisdom is something a person can develop, but often doesn't (and that's not entirely dependent on age), and similarly it doesn't make them all inherently right, because not all of them learn the right lesson from the right knowledge, especially as that knowledge isn't itself always 100% correct. But in terms of being able to be more knowledgeable at a much younger age then yes, I do still believe that the young have a much better chance of success in their endeavours in this respect than someone of our generation did when we were younger. And, crucially, that they are far less likely to hurt themselves, or others, in the learning process. In addition, your habit of alternating aggression and/or veiled (or, indeed, actual) insults with “what did I do?/why do you take this personally?” lines will also not lost on anyone (young or old) with even a rudimentary knowledge of basic psychology or social skills. You belittle the opinions of others (often with generalisations so sweeping that they make me wince) and then, when they seek to defend themselves, you cry foul and claim they're “insecure” or "defensive". It’s a very tired NetDebate cliché, and most sensible folk abandoned its use somewhere around the start of the 21st century. If you want a mature debate then have a mature debate. If you want to sling mud then sling mud. But don’t flip-flop between the two and expect anyone with an ounce of sense to respect you.

PeonForHer -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 3:42:51 AM)
quote: . . . Socially, he was a bit retarded, but he did alright. Girls would just follow him around anyway, because of his mad acrobatic skillz. Almost universally one of their first questions was, "How old are you?" Because he was not young. Clearly not young. Just young at heart. . . . A friend of mine has a firm policy of never revealing his age. If a woman pushes, he'll always fend her off efficiently with the comment, 'I've heard that if someone of the opposite sex asks you your age, it's a sign that they find you sexually attractive'. Heh. Few ask him again.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 5:52:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 Just to be clear, expressing an unpalatable opinion constitutes me "yelling"? No, the sheer quantity of exclamation marks you used constitutes 'yelling'...[8\|]

PeonForHer -> RE: The rise of teens and 20 something on here (11/1/2010 5:56:06 AM)
You can't exclaim things quietly?

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