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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 3:36:10 PM

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Your OP is based on a false premise... that CNN reports the news. See, this is a good example of why CNN is being pummeled in the ratings so badly by FOX, CNN edited O'Donnels words to make it appear that she said something other than what she said.

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CNN devoted several segments on Tuesday and Wednesday to Delaware Republican Christine O'Donnell's apparent gaffe on the First Amendment, but barely acknowledged her opponent Chris Coons's own gaffe on the amendment. Analyst Jeff Toobin spun O'Donnell's remark as demonstrating that "she didn't seem to know" the amendment. It took conservative Dana Loesch on AC360 to bring up Coons's own gaffe.

Anchor Wolf Blitzer played an edited clip of O'Donnell's questioning of Coons on the First Amendment issue during Tuesday morning's WDEL Delaware Senate candidate debate on his Situation Room program. Blitzer did not play the part where the Republican clearly asked, "You're telling me the 'separation of church and state'- the phrase, 'the separation of church and state' is found in the First Amendment?" [audio available here] After playing the edited sound bite, Blitzer continued that "O'Donnell's spokesman later said she was not questioning the concept of church and state subsequently established by the courts, she simply made the point, he says that the phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution, 'separation of church and state.'" This is an accurate summary of the candidate's line of questioning, but since the anchor didn't play the part where she used the term, "the phrase 'separation of church and state,'" he made it seem like the spokesman was giving a clarification.

Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/10/20/cnn-barely-covers-coons-gaffe-1st-amendment-highlights-odonnell#ixzz12vxuZPaX

So CNN is biased, as said by the ultra-right wing Newsbusters?

Can you then explain to me why her remarks were published just as CNN reported by numerous other sources?

You can see the unedited video of her sayingexcatly what CNN says she said in the link in my post on page 1.

She is clearly denying that the doctrine of seperation of church and state is part of the US Constitution. That is clearly wrong.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 3:45:32 PM

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What O'Donnell said was that the phrase "separation of church and state" doesnt appear in the Constitution, and she is absolutely correct. Its you and your friends making the mistake here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg&feature=player_embedded

She repeatedly asks is seperation of church and state in the Constitution and when Coons quotes the establismnet clause she asks "that's in the first amendment" and then laughs like Coons has made some sort of mistake.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 5:56:41 PM

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Christine O'Donnell is right. The first amendment says nothing about separation of church and state.

How does a retard like you manage to log on correctly every time?

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 6:23:36 PM

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Just lucky I guess.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 7:42:38 PM

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It doesnt mean what modern leftists want it to mean, or what the courts have begun to interpret the meaning which is that its strictly verboten for Christians to practice their religion in public.

The original intent was exactly the opposite, and again O'Donnell is correct, and you are the one who is erroneous.

Damn the people of this nation really are fucking stupid, Jefferson's own words say it all. Again from his letter to the Danbury Baptist congregation.

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties."

Jefferson's own words people, you know Thomas Jefferson who influenced the constitution along with John Adams, James Madison , Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine and many others. Why do people doubt Jefferson's meaning?

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 8:05:19 PM

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Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg&feature=player_embedded

She really is dumber than advertised.

What scares me is that she has received enough support to be even running for the Senate, by people who are apparently just as dumb.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 8:16:13 PM

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What scares me is that she has received enough support to be even running for the Senate, by people who are apparently just as dumb.

Third time's a charm, apparently.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 8:23:01 PM

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It doesnt mean what modern leftists want it to mean, or what the courts have begun to interpret the meaning which is that its strictly verboten for Christians to practice their religion in public.

You can practice it on your front yard. You can practice it on the sidewalk. You can have Christian clubs/groups at school. You can have meetings in parks. You can preach in front of the Safeway or Vons or Albertsons as long as you have permission of the store (a popular sport in Southern California). You can rant at the drivers at intersections, unless the cops say you're causing a hazard. You can make people listen to a prayer service before getting their food at a soup kitchen. You can hold up signs and scream "God hates fags" and "Thank God for dead soldiers".

You can't have coercive prayer, or government endorsement of a particular religion.

I caught a 60 minutes episode about 10 or so years ago, where the parents (who'd relocated to the area) of a student told their kid's school that the morning prayer read over the school intercom was unconstitutional (this was in the deep south). The school said he could wear earmuffs. Then they said he could go sit in the hall. The other students mocked the bit about the ear muffs, called him a Satan worshiper and said he was going to hell. The PTA gave the parents similar treatment. Guess what the family's beliefs were?

They're Lutherans, for crying out loud. The community is Southern Baptist/fundamentalist. Do you think the community would tolerate Jewish, Islamic, B'hai, or Buddist prayers in the morning or at football games?

When some members of the community were asked what they would do if they moved to a Jewish community and there were Jewish prayers over the intercom, these people said "Well, we wouldn't move there in the first place."

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 8:23:42 PM

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Meanwhile, Douchebagger in Florida wants to ban Bingo for Seniors in nursing homes:

"Almost 10% of American workers are jobless. Over 10% percent of all Americans cannot see a doctor when they are sick. America now ranks 50th in the world in life expectancy, just above Albania. And America is dead last in international math scores. What solution does my opponent, Daniel Webster, have to offer to these serious problems?
Answer: ban bingo for seniors.
Maybe you like me, maybe you don’t. But we have GOT to keep Daniel Webster out of Congress. So please support our campaign.
Webster has spent 28 years in the Florida Legislature. Listen to him, and you would think that he is personally responsible for making Florida into Eden. But Webster’s legislative initiatives over the years tell a different story:
Ban bingo for seniors. In 2003, Webster was one of only three Senators to vote against SB 664, which allowed bingo in nursing homes. In case you missed the point, in 2004, Webster was one of only five Senators to vote against HB 187, which allowed pull-tab bingo in church.
No more happy hours. In 1991, Daniel Webster introduced HB 593, which would have banned happy hour in all the bars in Florida. So much for Spring Break.
60 kids in each classroom. In 2006, Webster co-introduced SB 1150. This bill would have increased the class-size limit in Florida elementary schools to 60. Webster was OK with that; his six children were all home-schooled.
Landscaping for millionaires. In 2005, Webster slipped a $500,000 earmark into the state budget to pay “lakefront property owners” for landscaping. Under Webster’s earmark, the state would pay waterfront millionaires $200 for each 100 feet of lakefront property.
Men can cheat, but not women. Webster’s infamous “covenant marriage” law (1990 HB 1585) would have prevented “adulterous” wives – but not “adulterous” husbands, from receiving alimony.
Dan Webster wants to keep government out of your life, except when you are working, resting, eating, drinking, sleeping or breathing. We cannot let Daniel Webster make the laws that all of us will have to live by. Please help us defeat Daniel Webster.

Truth,
Alan Grayson"

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/20/2010 8:29:59 PM

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What scares me is that she has received enough support to be even running for the Senate, by people who are apparently just as dumb.

Third time's a charm, apparently.

Doesn't appear to be, though she is doing slightly better than she did against Biden.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/21/2010 6:08:31 AM

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I"d do her

We know.

Believe me, we know.

You have a thing for crazy Republican women.

Now I can see O'Donnell, maybe even Palin, but if you start saying you would do Sharron Angle or Jan Brewer we are going to have to find you some help.

To be fair, I don't think he's mentioned Coulter yet.

She swings from the other side of the plate. Don't think she'd give me the time of day :(

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/21/2010 9:20:34 AM

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I stand corrected.

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RE: The Tea party Candidate.... - 10/21/2010 9:29:06 AM

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Just lucky I guess.

Conversely speaking...that would seem to indicate that the rest of us are.....unlucky!!!!

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