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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but heh Im not supposed to have an opinion because Im not american..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Its not gonna stop me pissing you off tho is it

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

First, why are the conservative posters here so insecure that they constantly need to play grab-ass with each other?

So, it is OK that lefty posters can support each other, but not non-lefty members?

Talk about classic.

What's wrong rml?  You feel like it's OK to fight an isolated individual, but you get all upset when it looks like more than one person disagrees with you?

Hell, Rich and I and some others have had almost nothing but a waterfall of attacks by lefties. We expect it.

You should just quit whining about us and concentrate on trying to understand what we are saying and why.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Hell, I don't even understand why you keep putting your name at the bottom of every post when it's also at the top.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

As far as your question, if you can't make an argument on your own without relying on support from someone else then maybe you might want to think about whether your argument is too weak.

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ORIGINAL: samboct

Hi Firm

I think you missed the part where corporations can't have their free speech bridled according to the Supreme Court- which really means that if Lucy felt like putting her money where her mouth is, she could contribute to a US political fund. Which seems to me that she really does have something of a say in the US election, should she choose to do so. (I wouldn't, but in some ways, it's still a free country- especially in giving money to politicians.) So the old idea of elections really being the province of the voters seems a little archaic about now, wouldn't you say?

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ORIGINAL: samboct

Given that Fox "News" now claims to hold the most viewership of any network, are you surprised to hear that Republicans are going to wind by a landslide? I hope not, and the fact that Tea Party candidates are often unelectable may come home to roost soon.

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Cuomo looks like an easy victor in New York, Joe Miller in Alaska is now seen as a nut job- and we won't even go near Christine O'Donnell- OK, she's pretty hot, but vote for her? How did the porn star do running as a Republican in California a few years back do on a platform of bounteous natural breasts- and put in jail all those women who needed boob jobs to compete?

My viewpoint- the Tea Party has had great success getting its viewpoint out there, but when it comes time to vote, the insanity of so many of their stances will come home to roost.

In my state, CT, Blumenthal is running against Linda McMahon for Senate. I'm not crazy about Blumenthal- I've met him. He's slick, and a skirt chaser, and he's definitely been "fudging" his record. Had the Republicans put up somebody reasonable, I might even consider voting for one. Dredging out history- if Lowell Weicker would be running, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Blumenthal. But McMahon? No political experience and her tenure running the WWE just shows typical big business excess, massive CEO salaries and workers getting killed on the job and destitute. There's no way I'd vote for her, and I suspect in a couple of weeks, we'll find out if most people in CT feel like I do.

For Gov.- Malloy vs. Foley- another no brainer. I like Malloy- I've met the guy. Foley is another rich CEO that thinks that running a state can be done along the same lines as running a company. Well, when you run a company, if you've got an employee that isn't cutting the mustard, they can be fired. When you're running a state, if you have citizens that aren't cutting it- your options are either jail them (often on idiotic laws such as marijuana use) at high cost, or deal with them on the street-not something which builds much civic pride. Or, you can give them bus tickets as long as no one finds out. It's a very different challenge, and one where many CEOs should have taken a lesson from Dirty Harry- "A man's got to know his limits." Too many CEOs I've met are drunk on the power and admiration that their fat salaries command, they don't realize how lucky they were to get where they are. Have these people ever been successful in political office? Hell, a lot of them fail miserably when given a different company to run.

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ORIGINAL: samboct

Hi Firm

I think you missed the part where corporations can't have their free speech bridled according to the Supreme Court- which really means that if Lucy felt like putting her money where her mouth is, she could contribute to a US political fund. Which seems to me that she really does have something of a say in the US election, should she choose to do so. (I wouldn't, but in some ways, it's still a free country- especially in giving money to politicians.) So the old idea of elections really being the province of the voters seems a little archaic about now, wouldn't you say?

Money votes! Ever notice that corrolation?

Well it stripped lucy out of her vote mega to 1.  How? what is a corporation?  It is nothing more than a group of people who joined together typically for commercial leverage under a fictitious name.  What is a fictitious name?  An abstraction; Comcast, you cannot walk up and shake mister comcasts hand, hence a "legal fiction".  Ok that said.... lets say lucy wants the room painted pink and the corporation wants the room painted black.  Well now lucy gets to donate 500 bucks to her choice that will give her that pink room!   Meanwhile the corporation also votes the 10,000,000 (ten million) to get the room painted black.

You now have lucy as an individual voting the way her heart wishes (with her 1000) and lucy via the proxy corporation voting against her with their (10,000,000).  Hence lucy votes against herself by corporate proxy only with hundreds of times the money.

and worse anyone in a corporation by money vote gets to vote twice, once personally again through the corporation.

Given that Fox "News" now claims to hold the most viewership of any network, are you surprised to hear that Republicans are going to wind by a landslide? I hope not, and the fact that Tea Party candidates are often unelectable may come home to roost soon. Cuomo looks like an easy victor in New York, Joe Miller in Alaska is now seen as a nut job- and we won't even go near Christine O'Donnell- OK, she's pretty hot, but vote for her? How did the porn star do running as a Republican in California a few years back do on a platform of bounteous natural breasts- and put in jail all those women who needed boob jobs to compete?

My viewpoint- the Tea Party has had great success getting its viewpoint out there, but when it comes time to vote, the insanity of so many of their stances will come home to roost.

unfortunately history is in the process of repeating itself and boiling the frog is working well.  In the old days of the king he did not know what the people were thinking, on the other hand today the nsa can hear everything the people are thinking and the gubmint knows just how far they can push that line and who to take out etc.

People who dig deep into history realize its repeating and one cannot discuss fundamentals with reference to the same because society is so far detached from their roots.

Aside from that I sadly have to agree that some of these tea party people are not to brite its unfortunate they are the ones in the lime lite

In my state, CT, Blumenthal is running against Linda McMahon for Senate. I'm not crazy about Blumenthal- I've met him. He's slick, and a skirt chaser, and he's definitely been "fudging" his record. Had the Republicans put up somebody reasonable, I might even consider voting for one. Dredging out history- if Lowell Weicker would be running, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Blumenthal. But McMahon? No political experience and her tenure running the WWE just shows typical big business excess, massive CEO salaries and workers getting killed on the job and destitute. There's no way I'd vote for her, and I suspect in a couple of weeks, we'll find out if most people in CT feel like I do.

For Gov.- Malloy vs. Foley- another no brainer. I like Malloy- I've met the guy. Foley is another rich CEO that thinks that running a state can be done along the same lines as running a company. Well, when you run a company, if you've got an employee that isn't cutting the mustard, they can be fired. When you're running a state, if you have citizens that aren't cutting it- your options are either jail them (often on idiotic laws such as marijuana use) at high cost, or deal with them on the street-not something which builds much civic pride. Or, you can give them bus tickets as long as no one finds out. It's a very different challenge, and one where many CEOs should have taken a lesson from Dirty Harry- "A man's got to know his limits." Too many CEOs I've met are drunk on the power and admiration that their fat salaries command, they don't realize how lucky they were to get where they are. Have these people ever been successful in political office? Hell, a lot of them fail miserably when given a different company to run.


Sam

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

That's classic, Firm.

Richie, you can answer a number of questions for me here.

First, why are the conservative posters here so insecure that they constantly need to play grab-ass with each other?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Sorry but the only reason I would ever give money to any politician is to piss of the right on this board, and really? altho its tempting and enjoying to visualise the dribbling from the right, its childish and puerile. I leave that to others
Plus Im choosy over who I send money to, politicians would be on the bottom of any list (way below funding the IRA and insurance companies), American, Canadian or English politicians.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Your goal is to isolate those that oppose you, therefore making them easier to attack and/or disregard and dismiss.

Old tactic.

*shrugs*

Screw off.  I also do it because I wish to, and therefore do so.

Whinging about it does nothing more than let me know that I'm getting under your skin.

"Win" for me. 

Firm

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


I often comment like that on links I find of interest, RML, to posters of all political and apolitical persuasions. I may have even posted such a reply to you somewhere along the line, and I guarantee, no matter what you might be fantasizing about, I'm not grabbing your ass.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
I notice you have avoided the pertinent questions.