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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 12:57:23 AM

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Hey dude,I have an idea.All of you "conservative's" can pack your bag's and get the hell out of America.Go move somewhere over to the middle east.I hear there's no taxe's over there,DUDE!!

Yanno, "Charles", in the short time you've been here, you have displayed an amazing degree of ignorance, close-mindedness, and bigotry.

I'd suggest you think a bit more before you start ordering about half of the American population to "get out".

We own most of the guns, and control the military, dontcha know?

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 1:43:11 AM

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I hear Dick Cheney wanted to move over to the midle east.You can go play hunting game's with him.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:27:42 AM

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Hey dude,I have an idea.All of you "conservative's" can pack your bag's and get the hell out of America.Go move somewhere over to the middle east.I hear there's no taxe's over there,DUDE!!

yes we feel your pain!

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 3:16:22 AM

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Did you miss the word cleanly?

Militaries have fractured before; militaries will fracture again.
There was this little thing called, in my parts, The War of Northern Aggression....

Well it explains the birthers views of Obama. I think "The Freedom War" has a much better ring of truth to it.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 4:27:18 AM

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yes we feel your pain!

I'm still trying to figure out this one.

How is that Bush bails out the banks, AIG, and GM but it somehow gets put on Obama?

Not that I did not agree with Bush on some of it, but it just amazes that people are trying to already revise history that is just a few years old.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 5:05:09 AM

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Maybe they think the teabaggers are dumb enough to fall for that given some of the ridiculous bullshit they've already swallowed?

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 5:20:45 AM

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Oh so many and so little time

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 9:42:56 AM

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Thats a great cartoon Lucy!

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:19:15 PM

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if the military is on the side of the insurgency, why is it crucial the insurgents have weapons?

No doubt the split into factions would be even and of course the opposing side wouldn't need any help.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:21:47 PM

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A military rebellion in the U.S. would be over before it started.

You obviously can't know that for sure. I really see no need to debate it because none of us could possibly know the outcome before it happens. I'm sure you know this.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:27:20 PM

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Hopefully you are not going to try to make a case that the Founders put together a gov't

That has little to do with anything other than a possible basis for an outline of things to come.

Those documents were meant to guard this nation from more than that particular event. I honestly think politics have brainwashed some of you or you've brainwashed yourselves.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:30:17 PM

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Honestly why do any of you pick sides? Right, left..center..tea baggers...WTF.

I'm a patriot first and that to me means I put the needs of the country as a whole first..not my party first..blindly at that.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:38:24 PM

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Yeah...I'm brainwashed.What the fuck is wrong with me,why do I get upset when right wing assholes start hinting that insurrection is a viable option as we head to the polls?
Its nothing more than a theoretical discussion concerning the possible ramifications should the electorate make a mistake and not vote in the proscribed manner.
Save your country from revolution.....vote conservative.
Avoid Civil War.....dump Pelosi.
Lol...you guys are too funny,and than that isn't enough....you try to make a case that this is all done in accordance with rights vested you by none other than the founding fathers......Thomas fucking Jefferson himself has blessed the exercise.
Forgive me for objecting to the idea that disgruntled citizens are entitled to force policy at the point of a gun.
Forgive me for clinging to the beleif that America is special because we don't ,have no need to ,resort to such bananna republic activites.
But what am I talking about...you guys are the freedom loving right....so when you decide to thrust us into bananna hood...it will be done in the name of American Freedom....and annoited by Thomas fucking Jefferson.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 2:56:44 PM

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That's kinda what I'm talking about..Your fervor to pigeon whole someone based on your own political views has you clambering about.

Let's take stock of the situation in a rational way. If that guy felt comfortable enough to state what he did you have a few possibilities.

A: He's a nut. (I'm sure you'll love this option but such is life)
B: He feels he is speaking for enough people to warrant such a statement. (If this is true mind you..we are in for a ride because if enough people actually feel the way he does it isn't going to matter whether you think it's valid or not)
C: He said it for shock value and or intimidation.

As Firm has stated...I don't wish for it to happen but I'm also not blind to what's happening in the world. We as a nation may not be in the same boat as the founding fathers but we don't have to be either..All "we" need is a large enough consensus that a "move" is in the best interest of the country and we are being abused...Action is taken.

This country was founded on it and it may well happen again in an attempt to right itself. Wrong or right in your eyes.

All it takes is as I've said above..Enough people saying so and acting on it. Regardless of whether it works or not..maybe a statement is all that needs to be made.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 3:14:47 PM

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I am sorry but the threat of an armed insurrection because the American people did not vote the way some right wing candidate wants is not "Freedom Loving" or "Patriotic."

If this is what the Republican and right wingnuts think is the right way to handle it, then there is something wrong with these so called patriots, they dont believe in the constitution, or the electoral system, so why the fuck even run for office, just take up fucking arms, and I will be fighting against you.

When I was in the army I swore to defend this country from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 3:40:54 PM

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That's kinda what I'm talking about..Your fervor to pigeon whole someone based on your own political views has you clambering about.

Let's take stock of the situation in a rational way. If that guy felt comfortable enough to state what he did you have a few possibilities.

A: He's a nut. (I'm sure you'll love this option but such is life)
B: He feels he is speaking for enough people to warrant such a statement. (If this is true mind you..we are in for a ride because if enough people actually feel the way he does it isn't going to matter whether you think it's valid or not)
C: He said it for shock value and or intimidation.

As Firm has stated...I don't wish for it to happen but I'm also not blind to what's happening in the world. We as a nation may not be in the same boat as the founding fathers but we don't have to be either..All "we" need is a large enough consensus that a "move" is in the best interest of the country and we are being abused...Action is taken.

This country was founded on it and it may well happen again in an attempt to right itself. Wrong or right in your eyes.

All it takes is as I've said above..Enough people saying so and acting on it. Regardless of whether it works or not..maybe a statement is all that needs to be made.

Nice try,but not even close....though I will not attempt to discern why....perhaps there is a fervor or two going on within you...I will make no diagnosis.What I will do is try to break it down for you.
This asshole is not ,specifically speaking,the problem.His silly little rant isn't the problem...I have,at this time,no fear that this idiot or any of the others spouting this bullshit is an actual danger.
What has me "clamoring about" is the propencity of the right to resort to whispered threats as to possible ramifications and dire results if this country has the temerity to move further from their vision of where the country should go
That is the message that the right keeps returning to...to wit : We should take back both houses...but if we don't we retain a right as Americans to take back our country by force.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 3:57:03 PM

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Just curious here..Are you saying you think I'm a right wing?

Just for shits a giggles..The word I used was on purpose..I pictured people flailing their arms about in an attempt to get out of a hole so to speak. It was used solely in a creative manner.

I know the difference between to two words.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 3:59:22 PM

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I am sorry but the threat of an armed insurrection because the American people did not vote the way some right wing candidate wants is not "Freedom Loving" or "Patriotic."

If this is what the Republican and right wingnuts think is the right way to handle it, then there is something wrong with these so called patriots, they dont believe in the constitution, or the electoral system, so why the fuck even run for office, just take up fucking arms, and I will be fighting against you.

When I was in the army I swore to defend this country from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic.

The problem with your post is that you fail to see that those who would take up arms "in the name of freedom" are in fact just as freedom loving possibly as you are..You just happen to fall on different sides of the fence as to what you believe is the right course of action and or if there is any cause for it.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 4:19:26 PM

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I am sorry but the threat of an armed insurrection because the American people did not vote the way some right wing candidate wants is not "Freedom Loving" or "Patriotic."

I stepped into this debate because someone had said we don't have the right to do away with a government. It's clearly stated differently from my point of view.

I don't agree with someone doing this either if that was his intent..I could see if a large group of Americans were unhappy as a whole enough to gather together and make a stand.

For the reason of getting your "party" in control..Absolutely not.

To think though that there aren't some real issues that need to be addressed in a most veracious way is a little short-sided. I don't believe in being blinded by anything and that includes my deep love for this country. The old "don't say anything or your not a patriot" is bs. I would speak up because I AM a patriot and those who would sit by and say nothing are less than in my eyes.

I'm not right wing or left wing nor am I a center...I'm a little of all of them if they'll start doing their fucking job instead of bickering for show to get the camera off of any real work they need to do.. That's my take on politics.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/25/2010 4:41:50 PM

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you have a closed loop system.

ALL money comes through and is created by the federal reserve NO ONE ELSE!

Banks loan money into existence

You got 100 dollars in existence NO more.
You got 100 bankers
You got 100 people

Each banker lends each person 1 dollar at 10% interest

How does the the each person pay the 10% interest?

What does the federal reserve do to pay the interest?

I was trying to explain this to my 2nd brother this week. He at least tries to grasp it.

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