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lockedaway -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 2:50:56 PM)

Not incomprehensible....you just aren't bright enough to understand what I wrote.  [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m9.gif[/image]




Lucylastic -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 2:51:14 PM)

Mike he is having a tantrum show him for gawds sake

suck puppets get scary when not under sedation




slvemike4u -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 2:54:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Ahhhhhh......mikey boy.  Hey Mike, try to be honest, won't you?  Mike, for no reason whatsoever called another poster named RacerJim a racist.  Why?  Because RacerJim did not agree with Mikey boy's liberal bullshit.  It makes you think of Juan Williams.  But that is proof positive of my point.  NPR is is deep shit for firing Williams over expressing a "feeling" he has.  It wasn't a position he endorsed. (I know Mike has no fucking idea what I am talking about right now.) But it was only a feeling.  

When I asked Mikey-boy why is RacerJim a racist, mikey boy couldn't answer the question.  He couldn't direct me and others to other posts of Racer Jim's.  Nope...he was just a racist because he was not a liberal.  THAT IS WHO RACER JIM IS. 





Know your enemy.  Liberals lie.  Liberals deceive.  Liberals fight against liberty and against prosperity.  Do NO business with a liberal.  Don't rent to them, don't trade with them, don't refer clients to them...nothing.  Economic warfare is the only civilized strategy

Regular posters here are quite familiar with my reasonings.....but since you have chosen to once again stir this pot....allow me a question.
Whose agenda are you serving when you constantly give voice to that charge? RacerJim's ?
If as you say that was an unfounded and scurrilous attack on an innocent man.....why do you keep repeating it? Who are you harming in disseminating,over and over ,that charge?




slvemike4u -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 2:58:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Not incomprehensible....you just aren't bright enough to understand what I wrote.  [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m9.gif[/image]
Pal,if in the middle of the night you are awoken from a dream in which you are brighter/smarter,wittier or prettier than me.....run,don't walk to your laptop/pc and post an immediate apology for having had the temerity to dream such a blasphemous dream.




lockedaway -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 3:03:35 PM)

LOLOLOL I read your crap.  There is nothing bright about you.  Other than some Libs that like you, there is a whole lot of people that think you are dumber than a box of rocks.




truckinslave -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 3:04:24 PM)

The 2nd.
That's why it's there.




jlf1961 -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 3:20:55 PM)

Let us look at the second amendment, shall we?

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


We have the need for a well regulated militia, that does not give one the right to take up arms against the government.

Then there is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


There is nothing that gives the people the right to take up arms against the United States Government.

And the simple fact that an election does not go the way someone wants it to is not a reason to take up arms against the government.

IF, an president of the United States takes any action that is in and of itself a move to eliminate congress, end the right to vote by the people, or otherwise become a dictator is a reason to take up arms against the government.

However, since there is no legal means that a president can do any of that, and to even try he would have to have to overwhelming support of the military to even try and pull it off, pretty much makes the possibility nil, if not impossible.




truckinslave -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 3:32:21 PM)

There are hundreds of quoted fro the Founders supporting my contention that they recognized the need for an armed populace so that the citizenry could overthrow any government that became oppressive.
And you know it. You're just being petty.




jlf1961 -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 3:45:59 PM)

But the right to overthrow the US Government if it becomes oppressive is NOT in the constitution.

True, many of the founding fathers made statements to that effect, that if the government becomes oppressive then it is the GOD GIVEN RIGHT of the people to rise up against the government.

However, just because an election does not go the way you want it is NOT a reason to rebel against the government, unless of course you deny the point that the US is based on majority rule.

I did not vote for Bush, either time. I disagreed with every thing he stood for, but did that give me the right to take up arms against the Government, no.

The reason it did not give me the right was that he had not done anything that made him a tyrant.

By the reasoning an election not going the way you want it gives you the right to rise up against the government would actually make assassination of elected officials legal. You did not vote for them, you voted against them and your side lost, so lets kill the person, it is my right.




pahunkboy -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:03:21 PM)

FR:

I never heard of the guy.

And this thread so full of hot air.    I dont care for either party.   But me not liking Obama does NOT mean I want to return to Bush years!

The guy is a crackpot.    The state works as long as the checks cash.  When the checks dont cash- then there will be revolt.   Check out France.




Lucylastic -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:08:15 PM)

errrrrm he is the same guy you posted about ...oooh threee hours ago??




truckinslave -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:25:23 PM)

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unless of course you deny the point that the US is based on majority rule.


It manifestly isn't. Never was. Isn't now, quite, thank God and the Founders.

It was based on individual rights and property rights and States rights, all of which have been severely eroded and all of which are threatened with extinction.

I agree that it's not yet time to take up arms, but the key word is yet and the trendline is alarming.




pahunkboy -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:29:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

errrrrm he is the same guy you posted about ...oooh threee hours ago??


Or I  could found his fan club?

hehe




Lucylastic -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:41:40 PM)

Is he hot or something????
does he fart gold???
why would you want to do that?




jlf1961 -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:53:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

unless of course you deny the point that the US is based on majority rule.


It manifestly isn't. Never was. Isn't now, quite, thank God and the Founders.

It was based on individual rights and property rights and States rights, all of which have been severely eroded and all of which are threatened with extinction.

I agree that it's not yet time to take up arms, but the key word is yet and the trendline is alarming.



So, you maintain that the majority of voters do not decide who holds office? If that is the case why the hell do we hold elections?




lockedaway -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 4:55:22 PM)

Well......if it was "truly" majority rule, you wouldn't have an electoral college.  Do you agree?




jlf1961 -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 5:00:32 PM)

well, I will agree that the electoral college is flawed, but when it comes to the senate and house, it is the majority that votes in the person, NOT the electoral college.




Arpig -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 5:00:35 PM)

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and the attempted North American Union,
Thanks for the thought, but we don't really need anymore provinces...[:D]




MrRodgers -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 5:04:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckyman

The man is stating the obvious... The left will finally come to understand that they will NEVER PREVAIL in controlling this nation... NEVER.... what ever price it takes...whatever the consequences... this nation will never be a socialist nation.... We learned much from the methods of the Viet Cong, and those lessons apply here as well....the will to be governed comes from the CONSENT of the people, and we will NEVER CONSENT to Obama's views or the views of the left.... if you want insurrection, then keep thinking you will prevail and you will get just what you fear...and that is the violent uprising of the people across the land... we will NOT allow the left to rule this nation...NOT NOW....NOT EVER..... Freedom will prevail....whatever the price it might take....that is not just a promise....its a certainity..... the delusional leftest think they are sooo clever...but once the people have had enough, the hounds of hell will be unleased, and once in motion it will lead to final rejection of socialist leftest idology here and perhaps across the world.... the left is DONE.... November 2nd is just the start....

Just what country (world) do you live in ? Do you have any real knowledge of just what you are talking about here ? It sure doesn't read like it in any of your posts. This man should be arrested for sedition which is prosecutable under the law. After all he is a traitor just as Rush ("I want the pres. to fail") ("Hillary is a traitor") Limbaugh and others.

Maybe he's just a frustrated hippie from the 60's trying to fulfill his dream after the Ohio NG committed manslaughter of college students who thought correctly, that Nixon had started us on a path toward a fascist police state.

Were you related to Joseph MacCarthy ? Sounds like his rantings. Imagine the irony of all of those FEMA camps built by the right to imprison the left and still up and operating...but instead are waiting for the influx of righties using this 'option' of overthrowing the federal govt.

Wall street would be the govt.'s first line of defense...they being the richest (socialist) beneficiaries of all...ALL US govts. You know wall street and corporate America...with their culture of dependency and sense of entitlement. Last thing these people want is a revolution against Big Daddy. Texas farmers giving up the 'dole' and all those govt. socialist 'free- market' benefits. [sic] Don't hold your breath...dude.




slvemike4u -> RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? (10/22/2010 5:06:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

I am revealing you for the hypocritcal fraud and hack that you are.  Do you recall asking whether I was man enough to extend an apology to you for misquoting you?  Remember that? (I would call you a name that suits you but the moderators told me not to.)  But...do you remember that?  Remember that I gave you the apology because you were right...I HAD misquoted you.

Do you also remember that I challenged you to take the high road and address the alleged failures of certain qualities pertaining to conservatives?  And as part of that I challenged you to also take the high road and apologize for calling RacerJim a racsist?  Do you remember all of that or do I need to go back and requote about 7 pages of it here. 

Let me refresh your memory.  You didn't apologize.  You are dishonest.  You are a fraud.  What happened to Juan Williams is what YOU DID to another poster.  That is why I bring it up and that is why I will continue to bring it up until you finally take the high road and admit you were wrong.






Know your enemy.  Liberals lie.  Liberals deceive.  Liberals fight against liberty and against prosperity.  Do NO business with a liberal.  Don't rent to them, don't trade with them, don't refer clients to them...nothing.  Economic warfare is the only civilized strategy

I remember all of that 1) I am under no obligation to repond to anyone's posts here....your's happened to be so nonsensicle that I demurred to offer a rebuttle.
2) the apology thing...you are claiming some superiority due to the fact that you were forced to right a factual wrong...while I refuse to retract an opinion.Do you understand the fundamental difference?
One was a matter of provable fact...the other was an opinion offered.
Lesson over,thanks for playing.




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