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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 9:39:22 PM   
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Yanno, flcouple ... you are the one who claimed that there was no "right to revolt" in the Declaration of Independence.

Perhaps you should be a little less insulting, and a little more forgiving of others, so that you might reap the rewards of the same behavior towards youself.

Firm


You think the people who framed the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution thought what they had written gave the citizens the right to revolt?

If they did I would think sending troops to put down a revolt of people who were unhappy about their taxes was a funny way of expressing that.



citizens do NOT have the right to revolt only the people do :)  (welcome to legoolese land!  LOL)


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 9:42:58 PM   
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Once again, Bush did not lie about the WMD in Iraq. Why do people have such a hard time comprehending this. Saddam even admitted after his capture that he purposely leaked this information in an attempt to dissaude us from attacking, anticipating thousands of casualties from a chemical attack.
actually he did lie
By the way, he did indeed have WMD as everyone is aware that chemical weapons are classified as WMD, and he used them on the kurds. This is a fact.

Now as far as this topic goes, "extreemism in defense of liberty is not a vice." Barry Goldwater. I don't see how you can argue with that statement. Freedom means you are free to accumulate wealth without the federal government taking it away, say, and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else financially or physically. If it hurts your feelings, tough. This current crop of democratic leaders are the biggest threat to freedom since Bush came along and passed the patriot ACT.

As far as sedition goes, our so called commander in chief gave away nuclear secrets to the Soviets. If you or I had done that, we would have been executed for treason a few decades ago, and today we would have been locked up and the key thrown away.



yep and clinton gave nuke plans to china!

Sooner you all figger out the us/states are one big conglomerate (quasi-corp) the sooner all these incredible mysteries will start to make sense!  LOL


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 9:45:49 PM   
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The recent decision addressed guns. And ownership.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 9:46:10 PM   
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NO...YOU are the one that doesn't know what he is talking about.  Rush Limbaugh saying that he wants the President to fail is a feeling shared by many who do not want to live in a socialist America.  And people wanting their president to fail is nothing knew.  People said it about Truman all the time.

I allow no equivocation from the right now when we are at war that was cited to call the left a bunch of traitors. We are still at war and seeking the CIC's failure is tatamount to treason just as the right tried to denigrate the left...because we were 'at war' that they conveniently started.

As for socialist, I must inform you and many on the boards, do not know the meaning of socialism. For the real McCoy I think you should consult wall street and corporate America about their love for socialism at least as reflected in their bailout and bonuses. Yes, I hit those whores every chance I get when I read that word but the US is nothing like and has never been anything like a socialist country and if you wish to suffer from the demagogues...that's your problem as there is no pill for that yet.



we are all traitors
we are all using negotiable debt instruments for money when the constitution states only coins thus it follows if we were to protect the constitution we would be using specie of some sort or certificated specie for our method of exchange.

Oh and good post btw, just wanted to add that spice chit up a bit :)


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 9:49:30 PM   
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The recent decision addressed guns. And ownership.


yes I realize that!  welcome to syntax terrorism in the legal industry happening right before your very eyes!

"Wrongfully" replacing the word arms with guns!  those sneeky wabbits!

Entirely different meanings!  Constitution says arms!

Ok so imagine this for a moment....

Get a traffic ticket just for kicks any thing and take it to court and try and fight it.  Read up on the law and when you are sure you can go in and kick their butts and you got all the LAW on your side only to go in like countless other americans and get your ass hended to you THEN you will know precisely what I am talking about when I say

Syntax Terrorism!

Thats how I got started btw...  helped a friend had all the law should have waltzed in and out and they handed him his ass.  

I thought this cant be, and the more I dug the stankier it got...

Believe me it is an experience EVERYONE should have after spending countless hours preparing a perfectly good case only to have that happen...

It would change a lot of peoples attitudes and open lots of eyes to how unbelievably corrupt the system is.

I posted only the first page of the CRIS report, courts reinvestment program, we have more people in jail than fucking russia and we are the land of the free? 




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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/22/2010 10:40:56 PM   
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How is what he said any different than what Angle said...

In January, Republican Sharron Angle, who is running neck-and-neck with Senate Leader Harry Reid in Nevada, said Americans might seek 'Second Amendment remedies' to their problems with government. The Second Amendment refers to the public's right to bear weapons.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322913/Republican-congressional-candidate-says-violent-overthrow-Obama-government-table.html#ixzz139o85I9L

Sharron Angle floated possibility of armed insurrection
Here's another one that could be tough for Sharron Angle to explain away: In an interview in January, Angle appeared to float the possibility of armed insurrection if "this Congress keeps going the way it is."

I'm not kidding. In an interview she gave to a right-wing talk show host, Angle approvingly quoted Thomas Jefferson saying it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years -- and said that if Congress keeps it up, people may find themselves resorting to "Second Amendment remedies."

What's more, the talk show host she spoke to tells me he doesn't have any doubt that she was floating the possibility of armed insurrection as a valid response if Congress continues along its current course.

Asked by the host, Lars Larson of Portland, Oregon, where she stands on Second Amendment issues, Angle replied:

You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.

I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.

Larson says Angle was floating the possibility of armed insurrection if Congress keeps it up under Reid et al.

"If it continues to do the things it's doing, I think she's leaving open that possibility," Larson said. "And I think the founders believed that the public should be able to do that when the government becomes out of control. It just matters what you define as going too far."


The most charitable interpretation here was that Angle was floating armed insurrection -- or "Second Amendment remedies" -- as a defensible response if electoral politics fails to change where things are headed under the current regime.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/sharron_angle_floated_possibil.html


Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who's in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical...


Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.

Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/sharron-angle-floated-2nd_n_614003.html

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 4:53:45 AM   
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Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up, that I find it really disingenuous of the lefties on this board to suddenly discover that talk of revolution somehow is so horrible.

Firm


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 5:05:54 AM   
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Would anyone like a glass of water?

lol

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 5:06:00 AM   
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Its a pattern. If it isn't taken in hand things are going to get out of hand.


Perhaps your young and tender age doesn't gift you with remembering the comments and actions of many on the left over the last several decades that concerned things that were much, much worse than this passing comment.

Hell, all you have to do is look back at some of the things said during the Bush admin to see a lot worse.

Firm



Oh, you poor dear.

Those horrible, terrible things they said about Bush still have you upset.

Funny though how anyone who relates the current problems to Bush policies is told by conservatives that we need to move on from blaming Bush.

But I guess we don't have to move on from the conservative victim mentality that keeps talking about how badly Bush was treated.





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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 5:56:08 AM   
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Once again, Bush did not lie about the WMD in Iraq. Why do people have such a hard time comprehending this. Saddam even admitted after his capture that he purposely leaked this information in an attempt to dissaude us from attacking, anticipating thousands of casualties from a chemical attack.

By the way, he did indeed have WMD as everyone is aware that chemical weapons are classified as WMD, and he used them on the kurds. This is a fact.



Are you serious?

He used them on the Kurds fifteen years before we invaded.

The United Nations inspectors repeatedly failed to find any evidence of WMD's.

The invasion of Iraq was a foregone conclusion once Bush took office. 

Just read some of the Heritage Foundation papers written in the '90's by those who became his top advisers.



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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 6:23:06 AM   
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Once again, Bush did not lie about the WMD in Iraq. Why do people have such a hard time comprehending this. Saddam even admitted after his capture that he purposely leaked this information in an attempt to dissaude us from attacking, anticipating thousands of casualties from a chemical attack.

By the way, he did indeed have WMD as everyone is aware that chemical weapons are classified as WMD, and he used them on the kurds. This is a fact.



Are you serious?

He used them on the Kurds fifteen years before we invaded.

The United Nations inspectors repeatedly failed to find any evidence of WMD's.

The invasion of Iraq was a foregone conclusion once Bush took office. 

Just read some of the Heritage Foundation papers written in the '90's by those who became his top advisers.





Yup.....

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:03:05 AM   
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Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up, that I find it really disingenuous of the lefties on this board to suddenly discover that talk of revolution somehow is so horrible.

Firm



Yanno, i consider myself liberal on many issues... yet here i am defending this GOP candidate's right to free speech. Or did you miss that?

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:14:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up, that I find it really disingenuous of the lefties on this board to suddenly discover that talk of revolution somehow is so horrible.

Firm


Now now....the Sexual Revolution wasn't so long ago...unless you mean the Revolution of 1800?
in that case....cripes your are old!

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:21:13 AM   
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Not that old... the Beatles even had a hit song about the 1960's revolution mantra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRHVkyaklE


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:55:22 AM   
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Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up, that I find it really disingenuous of the lefties on this board to suddenly discover that talk of revolution somehow is so horrible.


Yanno, i consider myself liberal on many issues... yet here i am defending this GOP candidate's right to free speech. Or did you miss that?

Perhaps you need to be more clear.

It appears as if you are dissing Angle, not supporting the right to free speech.

Firm


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:57:39 AM   
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Go back and re-read the thread, Firm.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 7:58:32 AM   
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Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up, that I find it really disingenuous of the lefties on this board to suddenly discover that talk of revolution somehow is so horrible.

Now now....the Sexual Revolution wasn't so long ago...unless you mean the Revolution of 1800?
in that case....cripes your old!

Damn ... I guess I need to keep my revolutions separate!

When you reach my age, it appears that each generation discovers a "Revolution".  Just, sometimes, they aren't all the same!

Firm


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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 8:19:21 AM   
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I'm fairly certain we knew he had more, after we had sold it to him in the first place.

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 8:30:57 AM   
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Yanno, perhaps it dates me, but I heard so much crap about "The Revolution" from the left when I was growing up


Not just crap!! Let's not forget the music!!

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RE: Is this a threat? sedition? or just posturing? - 10/23/2010 9:01:48 AM   
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He used them on the Kurds fifteen years before we invaded.


Point?
I have .45 ACP ammo from WWII. Works fine. I have reloads- ammunition made in my spare bedroom- from 15 years ago. Works fine.

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