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Laced up - 10/23/2010 2:15:46 PM   
AbeLincoln


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Status: offline 		I was thinking. How would it be to put rings in a slaves labia. After she was healed up, she would only wear them at night (put in by the master) to keep the holes open. Surgical steel.

Similar rings near where her butt cheeks touch. Similar rings near where her lips touch.

Then, after everythings healed and healthy, she can be laced up whenever the master doesn't want her to fuck or suck anyone. Or eat, pee or poop!

One needs to think about a light, slim locking mechanism. Silver solder? With really good heat sinks?

Has anyone tried this, or thought about it?


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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 2:47:30 PM   
Aileen1968


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Just sayin.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 2:52:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like a fantasy that may have some issues in reality.

If you prevent your slave from discharging bodily fluids...you will cause an infection and it won't be pretty.   Even the most determined person, can only hold things as long as the body allows.

I've been told, (anyone here that can provide info, please feel free), that the tongue will heal overnight...I wonder if the labia will do the same? 



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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 2:57:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd go speak to several piercers and OBGYNs about this before even attempting to do this. You may be able to do this but with a long process where you do each piercing one at a time. I don't know how familiar you are with body piercings though - the holes in her lips will show even when she isn't wearing them and will always show. So that will (most likely) affect her appearance for the rest of her life.

It might be better and cheaper just to either A) trust her or B) buy a chastity belt.


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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 2:58:30 PM   
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Sounds like a fantasy that may have some issues in reality.

If you prevent your slave from discharging bodily fluids...you will cause an infection and it won't be pretty.   Even the most determined person, can only hold things as long as the body allows.

I've been told, (anyone here that can provide info, please feel free), that the tongue will heal overnight...I wonder if the labia will do the same? 




My understanding is no. The tongue heals fast because it's a muscle as opposed to the labia, which takes longer and requires more careful cleaning because of discharge. I could be wrong - I am not a piercer.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 3:10:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Ummm...even the domliest of domly dom doms can't prevent their subs from peeing and pooping.
Just sayin.


Dayam. I thought there was a solution to the sound of plugs hitting the toilet bowl. Bust my bubble why doncha.


OP Some people have reactions to silver solder. And just how much heat do you think her bits could endure whenever you want to lock or unlock this poopypeeshield? Not to mention the agony of acrid you know what eating her ass outside in .... backing up, blown intestines ...unhealthy.

I actually like the idea (but not as a poo-deterent). However if rings were used and made to overlap alternately, it seems to me a simple corkscrew type piece of surgical steel woven through the rings with a spot at the bottom of the screw for a lock that makes it impossible to remove without the key. (the lock won't fit through the rings) You could also have a larger ball/sphere at the top so the screw doesn't fall through. Or you could use some Japanese puzzle box tech as the lock, something that takes some knowledge to take apart the box or sphere. possibilities.

Edited to note that each ring would be placed vertically (like a hinged door), rather than horizontally.




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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 3:44:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Ummm...even the domliest of domly dom doms can't prevent their subs from peeing and pooping.
Just sayin.



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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 4:02:38 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		While I like the idea of piercings and will be getting them in the future, the reason you give for having her get them seems so very wrong to me.

I mean if you don't trust her to not fuck or suck someone else why exactly are you with her???



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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 4:15:30 PM   
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(okay...don't know why it feels weird typing that screen name, but well, we all have our kinks...)

I have seen what you've described in a dungeon where I was a DM--but not for bladder/bowel control.
in one case, the sub was already a piercing enthusiast, and she had multiple permanent rings in her labia, four on each side, and during the scene the rings were manipulated in various ways--including being laced up--and she was led around for a while.  Of course, as others have mentioned--they were unlaced so that she could, in fact, visit the restroom.  (the dungeon had a very strict policy about scat and watersports scenes)

The second scene was temporary--it was performed at a playspace in seattle WA at PowerSurge (early 90's) in case any of you were there and remember it-- the bottom had her vulva completely sutured shut--it was done by a professional and highly experienced, well-known piercer using sterile instruments, surgical thread and took a long time to do.  Again, it was temporary, and when the scene was over later, the sutures were removed.

Rings in the ass (I've seen this AND experienced it, to certain degree--piercings in the butt muscle, not for the purpose you've described) can be done temporarily, but I can tell you that they are NOT for the faint of heart, not to be done by someone who is inexperienced with piercing, AND they leave permanent scars on some people, this is primarily because a  large gauge needle is needed to pierce the tough "hide" of the bum, and rings there usually have to be larger gauge.  I still have my dotted "scars" from large gauge, temporary play piercings. I was aware of this before I agreed to get pierced.

In both cases above, I should mention, the goal was not to control their bladder/bowel functions, but was instead the piercing ritual itself.  The vulva suturing-shut scene was quite disturbing to a lot of folks--I've never seen a dungeon clear out so quickly!
So as a few others have mentioned, what you've described seems to fall more in the fantasy realm--mainly because you cannot expect to prevent one's bodily functions to be controllable beyond a certain measure of time, and some parts of the body tolerate temporary piercings much better than others. 

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 4:58:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I'd go speak to several piercers and OBGYNs about this before even attempting to do this. You may be able to do this but with a long process where you do each piercing one at a time. I don't know how familiar you are with body piercings though - the holes in her lips will show even when she isn't wearing them and will always show. So that will (most likely) affect her appearance for the rest of her life.

It might be better and cheaper just to either A) trust her or B) buy a chastity belt.



And C) Get some real life knowledge instead of watching bad porn before dreaming up stuff.


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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 7:54:20 PM   
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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:02:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		What the heck is wrong with chastity belts??! Are they not kinky enough?? Do we really need to lace up labias and butt cheeks?? I mean, fantasies are wonderful things, but there are soooo many fantasies that should remain fantasies. This is one of them.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:29:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are concerned that your sub will sneak out of your bed during the night to go suck off some guy, then your relationship is in heap big trouble.  Piercings are NOT going to fix the problem. 

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:35:05 PM   
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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:35:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AbeLincoln

I was thinking.



Good lord, man, stop that right now!!!

I guess it would it be too blasé to just tell her no and expect her to listen to you?

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:35:56 PM   
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Ugh. This thread has sent me screaming from the room....


No, it's sent you to the reply box for snarking.


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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:37:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen this done, but you should probably hook up with carnies and see for yourself how people live on the edge before trying these things. It can go allright, but it can also go very badly.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 8:45:05 PM   
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What the heck is wrong with chastity belts??! Are they not kinky enough?? Do we really need to lace up labias and butt cheeks?? I mean, fantasies are wonderful things, but there are soooo many fantasies that should remain fantasies. This is one of them.


Honestly, there are ways to make this happen quite safely but will probably involve altering the first idea.

I happen to be really into body mods and there are no problems with several piercings along the labia that I know of and then lacing them closed. I don't think solder is a good idea though. The lip rings are only a concern as far as the scarring from the piercings - I know several people with more than one and they could be tied together. They will always show and again the same issue of lacing loops vs. solder. The ass... much more complicated since fecal matter is NOT good for healing wounds and even healed piercings can get pulled and then have to be treated as a fresh piercing.

I am not convinced the basic idea of this post needs to be abandoned because it's 'stupid', 'fantasy' or grounded in porn. Just that the OP and the female in question need to speak to several piercers, several doctors and figure out their actual goals. If the body mods are hot for them, that can be done. If it's no sex, that can also be done with an old-fashioned chastity belt. If there is a trust issue... nothing can fix that because everything CAN be removed with enough work and a willing friend.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 9:44:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I am not convinced the basic idea of this post needs to be abandoned because it's 'stupid', 'fantasy' or grounded in porn. Just that the OP and the female in question need to speak to several piercers, several doctors and figure out their actual goals. If the body mods are hot for them, that can be done.


I definitely don't mean to insult people who are very into body mods and have done/will continue doing their research. This is probably a Your Kink Is Not My Kink moment, but it just seems to me that this is the kind of thing that you think about years into a relationship with someone you trust. The OP isn't speaking about a specific female - he refers to the characters in his idea as "a slave" and "the Master," as if he were observing from a distance. That says to me that he's thinking about this not because he is one of a pair of people who are actively looking to research serious body modification, but rather as a Dom with an active fantasy life.

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RE: Laced up - 10/23/2010 9:52:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why can't he think about it before getting into it? Isn't it better for someone to realize how realistic their more out-there desires are before they start wanting to inflict them on another person? I can remember being younger than I'd care to admit, wishing someone would come in and do... all sorts of interesting things to me.

I, personally, even as a person who loves body mods, would rather do something like this with someone who has been thinking about this for longer rather than shorter. Even if it means they were thinking about it and puzzling out how to achieve their goal before I appeared.


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