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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 11:02:56 AM   
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Maybe he's just hoping the cucky twins and Sanity don't vote?

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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 11:03:28 AM   
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Steven, I think RML could have run against Dirty Harry Reid and won.



Popeye, that's so sweet of you. 

So I can count on your support for my 2012 campaign?

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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 11:10:37 AM   
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It is naive to believe that these teabagger candidates will change anything.


They've already dragged the GOP waaaaay to the right.
They're going to drag them into a defund/repeal position on 0bama0Care.
And the 0bama0 spending spree is deader than SanFranNans poll numbers.

Wrong on all counts and Lucylastic is correct...the Tea Baggers at this early stage will do the same thing Perot did...suck votes from repubs and many objective observers have suggested and I agree with them...the repubs will win fewer seats than otherwise and directly as a result.

The GOP talks a right policy and then becomes whores soon as that first gavel sounds off. Almost all are CINO's...conservative in name only.

Spending will not change while most Obama and Bush policies will remain (those not reversed in the senate) because the dems will still have the majority, it will be a very hardened majority and...rightly so.


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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 11:43:58 AM   
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After the disastrous Bush presidency, I asked myself how the GOP would get back in the saddle.  The Bushies had pretty much messed things up across the board, especially economically.  The GOP has since attacked Obama for spending too much and for bailouts, but c'mon - Bush pushed the first bailout and the economy under him was pretty feeble.And he spent like a drunken sailor.  The GOP couldn't really repudiate Bush and he was an albatross. Interesting analogy, comparing Bush with the soul!

Thus the Tea Party.  They have repudiated the spending sprees of BOTH GOP and Dems.  They have a weird existence, where they kind of fit within the GOP but not really.

While they do tend to leave reality occasionally, they have a better grip on economics than the GOP, which has as an unassailable plank that tax cuts are always good and pay for themselves. No, that is the strawman of what supplysiders believe


So far the Tea Party has come up with some unbelievably bad candidates, such as O'Donnell, Dan Maes, Angle, etc.  I'm surprised by that and don't expect them to get such bad candidates again.  Very good chance that Angle will win. How will that change your expectation?


Everyone is focusing on the fact that these weak candidates have turned slam dunk races into competitive ones.  They've stated that this weakens the GOP.  What they're overlooking is that, once elected, Tea Party pols will not automatically vote the GOP party line.  In other words, the Tea Party will weaken the GOP once in office, and to be honest, weaken the Dems as well. The TeaParty will vote the GOP line in the most important areaas.


Expect massive gridlock in the short term.  correct
Hopefully, though, the Tea Party will get strong enough to absorb the GOP, and finally bury the Bush influence on the Republican Party.The tea party will never "absorb" the GOP. They will influence the GOP to adhere to more conservative principles, but not to the extreme right that some TP candidates represent.







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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 11:46:52 AM   
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Myself, I think it'd be nice if the teabaggers split the Repuke vote enough for the Democrats to take a few seats, if only to see how many of the right leaning ideologue zealots on here die of apoplexy as a result of that happening.

Keep an eye on the Alaska Senate vote. That race looks like it could be the biggest one where a GOP/tea party split could give a race to the Democrats.


Not a chance.

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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 2:28:15 PM   
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Just take a look at the rallies. This is a demographically dying movement and we are witnessing an actual death-throe. November 2 will be a rough day for enlightened citizens, but if you think the future is an angry old white man, you are not doing the math. Enjoy your last day in the sun.

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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/26/2010 5:54:56 PM   
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Well Patrick, If the republicans pick up 50 or so seats in the House next Tuesday, will you still say it is a dying movement ? For myself, I think it is a movement that is just getting started.

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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/27/2010 4:28:06 AM   
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The tea party is much like the contract with America....reallity will set in, in 2 years they will need to be re-elected and what remains will be just another bunch of Republicans.
I look forward to watching them for the time they are relevant, which won't be long. A house seat in particular is the least likely place to find a non-politician.
Each seat is up for election every 2 years and once you have a record you are defined, once you are defined those in a seat that is marginally "Tea Party" will be in play in the next election.
Those that are the darlings of the tea party will find their single issue supporters fickle, their repub supporters don't really trust or like them, and the rest of their constituency to be more demanding than they thought. Ah, politics...more fun to watch than 2 pissed off cats in a paper bag!


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RE: My thoughts on the Tea Party. - 10/27/2010 7:23:43 AM   
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Yes. A last hurrah is still a hurrah.

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