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RE: Courtesy... - 10/29/2010 9:24:29 AM   
RedMagic1


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I'm hoping folks won't mind the thread derailment, but what exactly is a steampunk/Victorian household?

You hold the Philip K. Dick novel with pinky fingers extended.


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RE: Courtesy... - 10/29/2010 9:25:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: January
I'm hoping folks won't mind the thread derailment, but what exactly is a steampunk/Victorian household?

You hold the Philip K. Dick novel with pinky fingers extended.


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RE: Courtesy... - 10/29/2010 9:55:41 AM   
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Sadly courtesy and good manners are now seen as both submissive and a sigh of weakness...

ROFL -- reason #429 that I'm a fake. I swear I should really be compiling the master list of all the things one must not do when one is dominant.

More seriously, courtesy and manners are not going out of style, nor will they. There will always be a segment of the audience that has little interest in such things... perhaps they're chasing some fantasy or maybe they just don't feel the need for civility in their lives or maybe the define manners differently than me? But as in all things, these people are not a part of any target audience for me so are just noise clouding the signal. I'm more interested in the part of the submissive segment that just wants a loving, male dominated relationship... preferably one that is otherwise "nice" in totally vanilla ways including things like romantic gestures, courtesy, etc.


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RE: Courtesy... - 10/29/2010 5:53:38 PM   
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To paraphrase R.A.H.

Courtesy and manners are the oil that keeps the machinery of society turning smoothly. Those that denigrate good manners as hypocritical and irrelevant simply enjoy throwing sand in the gears.

Stefan

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RE: Courtesy... - 10/30/2010 4:30:36 AM   
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courtesy seems to be dead...so are manners to most people.
Those say they have them..often only have it towards friends.
people, many at least, are even to lazy to hold a door open. ..or when you hold the door open for them..to say thank you.

On the other hand....was it ever there?

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RE: Courtesy... - 10/30/2010 4:55:50 AM   
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You know it's an odd thing.  Culturally, here, people don't hold doors for the next person.  It's very odd and difficult to get accustomed to.  They stare at me when I do it, and then I smile, they smile, they bow and say thank you, and I say yes, and off we go.  It's actually become a fun little game for me.  When I sneeze, nobody gezundheit's me either!

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RE: Courtesy... - 10/30/2010 5:39:56 PM   
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I teach middle school and I'm happy to say that I do see signs of courtesy in some of my students... not all of them, but some of them. I don't see courtesy in a Dom as being weak. In my mind, a weak Dom wouldn't be courteous as he would feel he must assert his position at all times, but that is just my own opinion. Would I expect my Dom to get me something when he goes into the kitchen? Not really. I might ask him if he would if I was busy with something and wanted more tea, but more likely I would ask what he wanted and if he would like me to get it for him. Doing for him is part of the pleasure I get from being with him. 

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