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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

So I'm listening to certain Republican "goals"and some I can really jive with. Balance the budget, limit government power, maintain rights under the Constitution....all of this I can really go for.

What I don't get is how Republicans (because Democrats the I can tolerate listening to don't go spouting this stuff) can say they hope to limit government influence and control by deregulating the business sector but at the same turn scream about limiting individuals' rights by being invasive about people's personal business (who they marry, how they fuck, parental planning, etc). I mean, if governmental involvement is required by a societal situation, would impacting major influencing bodies like businesses take less money and less invasive efforts from the government than trying to control what every individual does in their own lives?

Is this like a big picture problem?

I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. I don't want to debate who's right or wrong, I want insight into the logical process that brings Republicans, as a whole, to this conclusion.

boi

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

Something that bothers me about the Republicans is how can you keep/expand tax cuts AND balance the budget?

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

This country could easily cut 20% of the federal budget.

At what cost to employment numbers? How well did ignoring unemployment while taking in that Broadway play work out for Barry?

Could easily cut 20%, yes. Political will to do so, no.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

Of course there is pork in every budget, but 20%?

We could start with cutting funding to such asinine things as N.P.R, the National Endowment for the Arts grants which always seem to go to those artists who are most avant-garde and/or offensive, we could purge oversight committees on congressional spending on defense, welfare, education and other areas and put others in charge who will deal with a sharper knife and a willingness to stand up to those entities that think that because the government will pay for it, they can charge what they will...all of those things would make a start. 

NPR gets 4% of it's operating budget from the Federal government. The majority (40+%) comes from individual donors.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,221355,00.html

Gates (a Republican) wants to cut the DOD budget by $100 billion over the next 5 years.   Further reducing personnel and equipment needs.

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ORIGINAL: DMFParadox

I can certainly agree. Someone who truly believes in free market values should apply the same logic to sexuality and abortion, one would think.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I think it is called pandering

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I think it is called pandering

Their stated first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president. What were you expecting...leadership ? Don't look for any jobs, debt reduction or spending cuts over the next two years.

Far too many are social and political hypocrites, are the very elitists themselves they condemn on the left. They want to tell you how to live and will denigrate your lifestyle while many of the same people are more guilty than those they condemn, but...

...are politically also charlatans, pandering to lumber (tariffs) steel (tariffs) make sure govt. pays the highest price while subsidizing senior drugs, passing huge tax cuts for corporate America and the richest people, create the fewest jobs over any 2 terms while 'owning' govt. add $6 trillion to the federal debt while calling themselves 'fiscal' conservatives.

Use lies, distortions and demagogue issues to the point where a solid majority of repub voters actually believe their taxes were raised when small businesses received a tax cut, believe he is a Muslim and not a US citizens. One could go on...

There is a not-so-short sleezy paper-back one could write about the repubs.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
I don't want to debate who's right or wrong, I want insight...

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I think it is called pandering

Their stated first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president. What were you expecting...leadership ? Don't look for any jobs, debt reduction or spending cuts over the next two years.

Far too many are social and political hypocrites, are the very elitists themselves they condemn on the left. They want to tell you how to live and will denigrate your lifestyle while many of the same people are more guilty than those they condemn, but...

...are politically also charlatans, pandering to lumber (tariffs) steel (tariffs) make sure govt. pays the highest price while subsidizing senior drugs, passing huge tax cuts for corporate America and the richest people, create the fewest jobs over any 2 terms while 'owning' govt. add $6 trillion to the federal debt while calling themselves 'fiscal' conservatives.

Use lies, distortions and demagogue issues to the point where a solid majority of repub voters actually believe their taxes were raised when small businesses received a tax cut, believe he is a Muslim and not a US citizens. One could go on...

There is a not-so-short sleezy paper-back one could write about the repubs.

GRRRR>.....

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
I don't want to debate who's right or wrong, I want insight...

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

Something that bothers me about the Republicans is how can you keep/expand tax cuts AND balance the budget?

Its not easy but has been done. Its called the 90s

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

ORLY, I must have missed that.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

ORLY, I must have missed that.

You did.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

ORLY, I must have missed that.

You did.

No dear, youve taken out of context quotes and inflated them into a "First priority" lie.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

ORLY, I must have missed that.

You did.

No dear, youve taken out of context quotes and inflated them into a "First priority" lie.

Here
quoting The Politico — a look at what most likely soon to be Speaker of the House Rep. John Boenher and a new in-control Republican party plan to do if they gain control of the House — work to make Barack Obama a one-term President via investigations and defunding and stalling parts of Obama’s legislative victories so far: GOP lobbyist:

"‘The goal, obviously, would be to make it a one-term presidency,’ said a GOP lobbyist briefed on the talks.”

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Here
quoting The Politico — a look at what most likely soon to be Speaker of the House Rep. John Boenher and a new in-control Republican party plan to do if they gain control of the House — work to make Barack Obama a one-term President via investigations and defunding and stalling parts of Obama’s legislative victories so far: GOP lobbyist:

"‘The goal, obviously, would be to make it a one-term presidency,’ said a GOP lobbyist briefed on the talks.”

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

first priority and goal is not to address the issues concerning the country but to make Obama a...one-term president.

ORLY, I must have missed that.

You did.

No dear, youve taken out of context quotes and inflated them into a "First priority" lie.

Here
quoting The Politico — a look at what most likely soon to be Speaker of the House Rep. John Boenher and a new in-control Republican party plan to do if they gain control of the House — work to make Barack Obama a one-term President via investigations and defunding and stalling parts of Obama’s legislative victories so far: GOP lobbyist:

"‘The goal, obviously, would be to make it a one-term presidency,’ said a GOP lobbyist briefed on the talks.”

I see, so an out of context quote from a GOP lobbyist, expressing his opinion about something is the GOP official first priority.

Go to HuffPo you can sell your bullshit to the morons there.