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SorceressJ -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/11/2010 8:40:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

I gotcher mayo right here!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tilted-uterus/AN00461

Answer
from Sandhya Pruthi, M.D.
Tipped uterus
A tilted uterus, also called a tipped uterus or retroverted uterus, is a normal anatomical variation and shouldn't interfere with your ability to conceive.

In most women, the uterus tips forward at the cervix. In nearly 20 percent of women, however, the uterus leans backward, or tilts, at the cervix. In the past, it was thought that a tilted uterus may contribute to infertility. But experts now know that the position of the uterus doesn't affect the ability of sperm to reach an egg.
Rarely, a sharply tilted uterus may be due to a disease such as endometriosis. In this case, endometriosis — not the position of the uterus — may cause infertility.
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Talk to a 21st century western-trained obstetrician and get back to me, mkay?



I was treated by several of them, thank you. And I was not infertile, nor did I have bad periods. Just the tilted uterus that your previous posts were trying to say did not exist.




Aynne88 -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/11/2010 8:46:31 PM)


I was just told twice in the past 5 years by two different ob/gyn's that my uterus is tipped or tilted so.....I am inclined to agree with RS and angelika's info regarding that matter. Rather odd to be told by two successive doc's if it doesn't actually exist.

Anyway, to the OP. My man is quite large, and I have never had children, don't know if that really matters or not, but if he doesn't allow me to warm up at all and wants it now and I get a surprise attack, it frigging hurts. Especially doggy style. It feels like a kick with every thrust. I love/hate it, but the entire next day I ache. Not externally, but internally. If we are having less rambunctious sex it's fine, so I guess my opinion is it could be worse. I was with a man that I could barely feel during anal [&:]. Not fun!

With time, it will probably become less noticeable, and I do notice being on top allows me more control of the thrusting. Although of course, my favorite is being taken from behind. Figures...masochist.[;)].




takemeforyourown -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/11/2010 9:49:17 PM)

I don't know if you'd be willing to try it, but I have inserted a Today sponge (contraceptive) from time-to-time to avoid the pain. There have only been certain partners who caused it for me, but the Today "cushion" really helped. I never felt there was anything wrong with my arousal or my body. Just a matter of a few particularly long, piercing penises. I was able to enjoy every position after that.




tazzygirl -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/11/2010 10:01:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

There's no such thing as a 'tilted uterus': very 19th century concept. It's supposed to be tilted on its neck [the cervix]: it's all about sufficient excitation to allow the uterus and its cervix to rise.


I have to disagree. In Labor and Delivery Units i have worked, I have come across many titled, and mine is as well.

The uterus is the hollow, pear-shaped organ where a developing fetus will grow. The uterus is normally in a straight vertical position. Some women have a tipped or tilted uterus, in which the uterus is tipped backwards toward the back of the pelvis.

What are some symptoms of a tipped uterus?
Some women do not experience any symptoms. However, the primary symptoms of a tipped uterus are:

Pain during sexual intercourse or dyspareunia.
Pain during menstruation or dysmenorrhea.
Other symptoms may include:

Back pain during intercourse
Minor incontinence
Urinary tract infections
Fertility problems
Difficulty using tampons

What other terms are used to describe a tipped uterus?
There are many alternate ways of referring to a tipped uterus. However, all of the terms mean that the uterus is tipped backwards toward the back of the pelvis.

Common terms include:

Retroflexed uterus
Tilted uterus
Backward uterus
Retroverted uterus
Tilted womb
Medical professionals may use the following terms:

Uterine retroversion
Uterine retroflexion
Retroversion of the uterus
Symptomatic uterine retroversion
Symptomatic uterine retroflexion
Uterine retrodisplacement
Reflexion of the uterus

http://americanpregnancy.org/womenshealth/tippeduterus.html

The experts disagree with your diagnosis.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 12:07:49 AM)

Next time I see the head of OB GYN for Mount Sinai Hospital, I'll have to remember to tell him there is no such thing as a tilted uterus. I'm sure he'll get a laugh when I tell'em about this thread and how someone said he is practicing archaic medicine.




ranja -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 2:22:52 AM)

not to get hysterical about this but what i gather from the uterus debate is that it moves... so it seems likely that sometimes it is tilted and other times not...maybe it moves more in some women than in others... i've been told mine is tilted too.
All mature women i know,and talk about this stuff with, suffer occasional pain during sex, difficulties with tampax, period pains and other female stuff... it seems to me a 'titled' uterus is nothing to worry about and certainly not something i would consider i need medical attention for.

doggy style before you are totally ready to receive leaves you wide open for him to just ram it in and hurt you bad and unfortunately some blokes just do... to me it is at the least a mistake and at worst ignorant and very boorish behaviour, i think a man should learn to read his woman and use his dick properly.

I am surprised to hear that some women might actually like this type of pain, to me it is not a turn on at all, it hampers my ability to go along and get dirtier, it holds me back, i can cope with it, but it does not make for good sex at all.




tazzygirl -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 2:51:15 AM)

quote:

not to get hysterical about this but what i gather from the uterus debate is that it moves... so it seems likely that sometimes it is tilted and other times not...maybe it moves more in some women than in others... i've been told mine is tilted too.


Mine remains tilted. Not sure what your point is here.

quote:

All mature women i know,and talk about this stuff with, suffer occasional pain during sex, difficulties with tampax, period pains and other female stuff... it seems to me a 'titled' uterus is nothing to worry about and certainly not something i would consider i need medical attention for.


I would expect the OBGYN who diagnosed your tipped uterus would have determined whether or not you needed further medical evaluation. Not every woman does. Sex shouldnt be "painful". That in itself is a reason to see your Dr. And painful periods can be a symptom of ther problems, such as endometriosis and fibroids.

Again, not sure what your point is here telling other women what may NOT be wrong with their bodies because it isnt wrong with yours.




angelikaJ -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 5:33:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

I gotcher mayo right here!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tilted-uterus/AN00461

Answer
from Sandhya Pruthi, M.D.
Tipped uterus
A tilted uterus, also called a tipped uterus or retroverted uterus, is a normal anatomical variation and shouldn't interfere with your ability to conceive.

In most women, the uterus tips forward at the cervix. In nearly 20 percent of women, however, the uterus leans backward, or tilts, at the cervix. In the past, it was thought that a tilted uterus may contribute to infertility. But experts now know that the position of the uterus doesn't affect the ability of sperm to reach an egg.
Rarely, a sharply tilted uterus may be due to a disease such as endometriosis. In this case, endometriosis — not the position of the uterus — may cause infertility.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Talk to a 21st century western-trained obstetrician and get back to me, mkay?



The comment above is appallingly bigoted and offensive.

Here is the link to the article from Medline (From the National Institutes of Health)
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001506.htm

Update date 10/28/2008
Updated by: Linda Vorvick, MD, Seattle Site Coordinator, Lecturer, Pathophysiology, MEDEX Northwest Division of Physician Assistant Studies, University of Washington School of Medicine; and Susan Storck, MD, FACOG, Chief, Eastside Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Redmond, Washington ; Clinical Teaching Faculty, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Washington School of Medicine.

Here is another piece by J. Glenn Bradley MD
(he actually explains why it is painful for some women and also how ligament tears can happen during sex.)

The Significance of a "Tipped" Uterus


The uterus can lie in different positions in the pelvis, and it may vary from one woman to another. Most commonly, the uterus lies horizontally over the bladder, as do the ovaries. As the uterus enlarges with pregnancy, or perhaps with a large fibroid, it will cause increasing pressure on the bladder, and this results in increasing urinary frequency, pressure symptoms, and perhaps lower abdominal protrusion.

The body of the uterus may be vertical, in line with the plane of the vagina, or it may be rotated towards the rectum, a condition called uterine "retroversion". The layperson term for this anatomical condition is a "tipped" uterus. This common normal variant of pelvic anatomy is present in 20-30% of women, and usually is of no consequence. I often relate its significance as similar to being left-handed!

For some women, however the retroverted uterus is very problematic. Because of its very low position in the pelvis, the body of the uterus and the ovaries are very susceptible to trauma from intercourse. From a functional point of view, one might think of the vagina as being very shallow, as the male can very easily bump the uterus and ovaries during intercourse, and this can be very uncomfortable. Vigorous forceful intercourse, especially with the female-superior position may be associated with a tearing of the support tissues to the uterus. If abstinence for a few weeks does not see the tenderness problem resolve, and if mobility of the cervix appears to be excessive and abnormal, and motion of the cervix reproduces the pain the patient experiences with sex, the diagnosis of a ligament tear should be strongly considered. Many times a patient will relate her history as outlined above, and when I ask her if she was in the female-superior position, and did it feel suddenly that "something tore", she will look at me almost with astonishment, as if I had seen it happen!!

The treatment for the problem of a symptomatic retroverted uterus is to either move the uterus to the more common "over-the-bladder" position or remove it by hysterectomy. Repositioning of the uterus is relatively simple by means of laparoscopy, it is usually successful in solving the tenderness problem, and fertility is preserved. While most women may occasionally experience deep-penetration discomfort (depending on position or where they are in the monthly cycle) the tipped uterus for some women may render them sexual cripples. Fortunately, correction is fairly simple, and effective.

http://www.obgyn.net/women/women.asp?page=/women/articles/bradley/banter_0829

quote:

ORIGINAL: ranja

not to get hysterical about this but what i gather from the uterus debate is that it moves... so it seems likely that sometimes it is tilted and other times not...maybe it moves more in some women than in others... i've been told mine is tilted too.
All mature women i know,and talk about this stuff with, suffer occasional pain during sex, difficulties with tampax, period pains and other female stuff... it seems to me a 'titled' uterus is nothing to worry about and certainly not something i would consider i need medical attention for.

doggy style before you are totally ready to receive leaves you wide open for him to just ram it in and hurt you bad and unfortunately some blokes just do... to me it is at the least a mistake and at worst ignorant and very boorish behaviour, i think a man should learn to read his woman and use his dick properly.

I am surprised to hear that some women might actually like this type of pain, to me it is not a turn on at all, it hampers my ability to go along and get dirtier, it holds me back, i can cope with it, but it does not make for good sex at all.


ranja,
Usually it isn't that it has moved, or does move around, but simply the way you are put together.
20% or so of women have their uteruses tipped towards the back instead of laying above the bladder.

In doggy style he is banging right against it.





BbcSlutKc -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 3:53:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

I don't know if you'd be willing to try it, but I have inserted a Today sponge (contraceptive) from time-to-time to avoid the pain. There have only been certain partners who caused it for me, but the Today "cushion" really helped. I never felt there was anything wrong with my arousal or my body. Just a matter of a few particularly long, piercing penises. I was able to enjoy every position after that.

good idea!!! thanks!




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 6:02:16 PM)

Your first comment:
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

There's no such thing as a 'tilted uterus': very 19th century concept. It's supposed to be tilted on its neck [the cervix]: it's all about sufficient excitation to allow the uterus and its cervix to rise.


Then people posted you were incorrect.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

I gotcher mayo right here!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tilted-uterus/AN00461

Answer
from Sandhya Pruthi, M.D.
Tipped uterus
A tilted uterus, also called a tipped uterus or retroverted uterus, is a normal anatomical variation and shouldn't interfere with your ability to conceive.

In most women, the uterus tips forward at the cervix. In nearly 20 percent of women, however, the uterus leans backward, or tilts, at the cervix. In the past, it was thought that a tilted uterus may contribute to infertility. But experts now know that the position of the uterus doesn't affect the ability of sperm to reach an egg.
Rarely, a sharply tilted uterus may be due to a disease such as endometriosis. In this case, endometriosis — not the position of the uterus — may cause infertility.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Talk to a 21st century western-trained obstetrician and get back to me, mkay?



Now you post something yourself that shows you were incorrect. What am I missing?

All of my comments, and that of the OP were concerning pain from cervix punch. Your first statement says clearly "There's no such thing as a 'tilted uterus': very 19th century concept."




angelikaJ -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 7:06:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Your first comment:
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

There's no such thing as a 'tilted uterus': very 19th century concept. It's supposed to be tilted on its neck [the cervix]: it's all about sufficient excitation to allow the uterus and its cervix to rise.


Then people posted you were incorrect.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

I gotcher mayo right here!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tilted-uterus/AN00461

Answer
from Sandhya Pruthi, M.D.
Tipped uterus
A tilted uterus, also called a tipped uterus or retroverted uterus, is a normal anatomical variation and shouldn't interfere with your ability to conceive.

In most women, the uterus tips forward at the cervix. In nearly 20 percent of women, however, the uterus leans backward, or tilts, at the cervix. In the past, it was thought that a tilted uterus may contribute to infertility. But experts now know that the position of the uterus doesn't affect the ability of sperm to reach an egg.
Rarely, a sharply tilted uterus may be due to a disease such as endometriosis. In this case, endometriosis — not the position of the uterus — may cause infertility.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Talk to a 21st century western-trained obstetrician and get back to me, mkay?



Now you post something yourself that shows you were incorrect. What am I missing?

All of my comments, and that of the OP were concerning pain from cervix punch. Your first statement says clearly "There's no such thing as a 'tilted uterus': very 19th century concept."


I can answer that.

quote:


Talk to a 21st century western-trained obstetrician and get back to me, mkay?



The physician mentioned has a "non-western" name. [8|]

edit: fix quote boxes




hausboy -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/12/2010 8:46:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NymphetamineGirl

Why oh why is this knowledge so poorly understood? I think we know damn near everything about penises and testicles...

When a woman is sexually aroused, all those lovely muscles around the vagina and cervix tense up. This process actually changes th shapes of your vagina. It lifts your cervix up and out of the way, so that Sir Ramsalot gets up to three extra inches of depth. If he still hits the back wall of your vagina then, one of you may be a freak of nature. Cervical impact is uncomfortable for sure, but it's unlikely that he's causing any real damage. If he WANTS to hurt you that's one thing, if he's uneducated it's another. How awesome would it be if he made you so hot first that you begged him to come inside you? See if you feel pain then:)


I'm sorry NymphetamineGirl, but your statement that he isn't causing any damage is not a true one.  An object that is too long (I'm not being glib or funny here) CAN hit and bruise the cervix--you absolutely can damage the cervix and regardless of whether or not he wants to hurt you, THAT is not the method to do so. You are correct that the size and shape of the vagina can change during menstrual cycles and levels of excitement--and often times, do get smaller and tighter.  Your sex partner should be careful not to hit or grind into the cervix as he (or she) can bruise it, and damage can result. Experienced vaginal fisters have long used a marker (or other method) on our wrists to make sure we don't go in too far--every woman is different--communication is key.

If you don't want to take my word for it, ask your gynecologist.  You don't have to give them the graphic details.




kalikshama -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/13/2010 4:04:03 AM)

quote:

I don't know if you'd be willing to try it, but I have inserted a Today sponge (contraceptive) from time-to-time to avoid the pain. There have only been certain partners who caused it for me, but the Today "cushion" really helped.


The Sponge is back!?! (I learn so much here :) Who is "sponge-worthy"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_sponge

Regarding the non-existence of tilted uteruses, the last time I went to the GYN, as she was about to insert the speculum, she said, "Oh! You have a retroverted uterus."

At this visit, my ass was covered in bruises from the previous day's play, and before I got undressed, I gave her the disclaimer, "You will see bruises. They were Safe, Sane and Consensual." I was embarrassed to say this, but imagine if she had reported me as an abuse victim?




Langlady -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/16/2010 2:33:42 PM)

LUBE and lots of it! My lover actually tore my cervix and i had to go to the hospital for internal stitches (explain THAT to a doctor, lol)

Also girl on top i feel is less intense than doggy style because YOU chose how far to sink down, etc

Best of luck to you!




Hillwilliam -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/16/2010 4:09:40 PM)

I love it............ your name starts with BBCslut


The first letter in BBC stands for BIG.

WTF were you expecting?

By the way, I'm a LOT larger than average so this isnt some 'pencil prick white boy'.


If you advertise that you want something, dont bitch when you get it.




BbcSlutKc -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/17/2010 1:07:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I love it............ your name starts with BBCslut


The first letter in BBC stands for BIG.

WTF were you expecting?

By the way, I'm a LOT larger than average so this isnt some 'pencil prick white boy'.


If you advertise that you want something, dont bitch when you get it.

well arent u a jackass!!! thats y i stick to my black men, thanks for being another white man reminding me.




ranja -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/17/2010 1:55:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Again, not sure what your point is here telling other women what may NOT be wrong with their bodies because it isnt wrong with yours.



i don't see the point in that statement, but taking it as a question, i shall endeavour to explain:

If 20% of women have a tilted uterus, then it is extremely common and not something to particularly worry about.
If a woman has pain during sex cos his dick is too big and he rams it in before she is ready to take it and she goes to the doctor to complain about this... well i think she will look like quite a dumb tit.

Of course any woman with worries about their health should see a doctor regardless of whether they will look like a dumb tit or not.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/17/2010 5:50:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BbcSlutKc


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I love it............ your name starts with BBCslut


The first letter in BBC stands for BIG.

WTF were you expecting?

By the way, I'm a LOT larger than average so this isnt some 'pencil prick white boy'.


If you advertise that you want something, dont bitch when you get it.

well arent u a jackass!!! thats y i stick to my black men, thanks for being another white man reminding me.



I think I stick to people who don't need to use racial slurs and who aren't simple enough to believe that the "really important stuff" such as skin tone, colour of eyes or hair makes a person better or worse. I have no issue if somebody has a preference for a certain look or racial feature, but to stereotype race, sorry, that is just a bit too dumb.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/17/2010 7:09:27 AM)

Methinks she just made My point.


Another way of saying it is "Be careful what you ask for. Sometimes you recieve it"

And when you do.........dont bitch.




xssve -> RE: Crazy sex question..... (11/17/2010 7:32:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NymphetamineGirl

I have to repeat my disagreement here. If you are PROPERLY EXCITED this probably won't happen.

Look at table 1 on page 73 of this:

http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/faix02.pdf

you will see preceding a series of MRI images of intercourse in various sexual positions. During heightened arousal, the woman's vaginal depth increased a LOT. This is because the cervix tilts up and the uterus tilts down, so he gets the full depth of her vaginal canal when he's not so forking eager. Not saying anything about your D, OP, just saying you have other options besides "suffer".
Perhaps, but women are much more varied than is generally known - the female sex organs are actually still in the midst of the evolutionary process that began with bipedalism, and cranial expansion - no other animal has the rates of mortality in childbirth that human females have, women, in essence, are still evolving.

There is a huge amount of variation in size, depth, angle, flexibility, etc., one cannot draw anything but the most general of conclusions from a single specimen - if knocking her cervix hurts, it hurts - one cannot make it going away by arguing it ought not to.

I'm average, but I've had women with short vagina's complain about getting their cervix knocked, others can't get enough of it, the "deep spot" is located at the base of the cervix, but again, the enormous amount of variation in female sexual anatomy means even the location and density of clitoral/vagus ganglia may vary considerably from woman to woman.




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