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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

The Fed has nothing to do with fiscal policy matters.


None of that is to say the Fed is beyond criticism, certainly, but Fed action should be the one area where theoretically we criticize based on the  merit of the action unto itself and not on how well it adheres or not to partisan ideology.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

The Fed has nothing to do with fiscal policy matters.


None of that is to say the Fed is beyond criticism, certainly, but Fed action should be the one area where theoretically we criticize based on the  merit of the action unto itself and not on how well it adheres or not to partisan ideology.

The Fed is an ENABLER of fiscal policy, and is most certainly beholden to the political party that oversees them. To say they arent implementers of partisan policy is to ingore reality.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

The Fed is an ENABLER of fiscal policy, and is most certainly beholden to the political party that oversees them. To say they arent implementers of partisan policy is to ingore reality.

No kidding Willbeur?

See, I always thought that is why they were independent, so they would not be beholden to any political party.

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

From the Wall St Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html

"Rand Paul comes with softer edges than his father, Ron Paul, who first won a seat in Congress in 1976. The difference was apparent on election night. At the convention hall next to the Holiday Inn, here in Mr. Paul's hometown, Rep. Paul introduced his son by Skype, hailing him as a politician "who stands for something" and is supported by a movement that is vigorous because "it is outside the party." No note of compromise with the Republican establishment there.

Father, and son, age 47, have different styles. Asked what he wanted to do in Washington in a Wednesday morning television interview, the senator-elect said that his kids were hoping to meet the Obama girls. He has made other concessions to the mainstream. He now avoids his dad's talk of shuttering the Federal Reserve and abolishing the income tax. In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says."

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Yea, if you didn't do that, people might start thinking the liberal party is more mature than the conservatives and you don't want that to happen do you?

maturity lessons from someone using a picture of baby stewie.... uh,.. lol

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

The "hate-spouting leftist radicals".

Tell me Richie, who is really spouting the hate?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Yea, if you didn't do that, people might start thinking the liberal party is more mature than the conservatives and you don't want that to happen do you?

maturity lessons from someone using a picture of baby stewie.... uh,.. lol

Missed the point again, now why am I not surprised?

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

A clear message???  In 30 races the difference in votes was under 240,000 votes total.  So less than .001 percent of the populace, wow what a clear and powerful message

and for the last 80 years every mid term has had the same results, and this is not the largest change of seats.  And Just a thumbs up to Palin, because the GOP is crying she cost them the Senate with so many of the people she supported losing

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

From the Wall St Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html

"Rand Paul comes with softer edges than his father, Ron Paul, who first won a seat in Congress in 1976. The difference was apparent on election night. At the convention hall next to the Holiday Inn, here in Mr. Paul's hometown, Rep. Paul introduced his son by Skype, hailing him as a politician "who stands for something" and is supported by a movement that is vigorous because "it is outside the party." No note of compromise with the Republican establishment there.

Father, and son, age 47, have different styles. Asked what he wanted to do in Washington in a Wednesday morning television interview, the senator-elect said that his kids were hoping to meet the Obama girls. He has made other concessions to the mainstream. He now avoids his dad's talk of shuttering the Federal Reserve and abolishing the income tax. In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says."

In my opinion, Rand Paul was extreme in his views and claimed not to be one that would compromise them.  I, for one, am glad to see he may not have been all that serious and is "softening around the edges".  Now....how the Tea Party sees it may be another thing. 

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

From the Wall St Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html

"Rand Paul comes with softer edges than his father, Ron Paul, who first won a seat in Congress in 1976. The difference was apparent on election night. At the convention hall next to the Holiday Inn, here in Mr. Paul's hometown, Rep. Paul introduced his son by Skype, hailing him as a politician "who stands for something" and is supported by a movement that is vigorous because "it is outside the party." No note of compromise with the Republican establishment there.

Father, and son, age 47, have different styles. Asked what he wanted to do in Washington in a Wednesday morning television interview, the senator-elect said that his kids were hoping to meet the Obama girls. He has made other concessions to the mainstream. He now avoids his dad's talk of shuttering the Federal Reserve and abolishing the income tax. In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says."

In my opinion, Rand Paul was extreme in his views and claimed not to be one that would compromise them.  I, for one, am glad to see he may not have been all that serious and is "softening around the edges".  Now....how the Tea Party sees it may be another thing. 

I guess you missed what he actually said, versus what some in the press wished he said.

Look here for his actual comments.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

The "hate-spouting leftist radicals".

Tell me Richie, who is really spouting the hate?

You know RML, if you are going to participate in these discussions, it does place an obligation on you to keep up with what is happening in the world.

Let's go with a certain limousine lefty's recent racist crack about Marco Rubio looking like "a Central American dictator," for an example. Link

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

From the Wall St Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html

"Rand Paul comes with softer edges than his father, Ron Paul, who first won a seat in Congress in 1976. The difference was apparent on election night. At the convention hall next to the Holiday Inn, here in Mr. Paul's hometown, Rep. Paul introduced his son by Skype, hailing him as a politician "who stands for something" and is supported by a movement that is vigorous because "it is outside the party." No note of compromise with the Republican establishment there.

Father, and son, age 47, have different styles. Asked what he wanted to do in Washington in a Wednesday morning television interview, the senator-elect said that his kids were hoping to meet the Obama girls. He has made other concessions to the mainstream. He now avoids his dad's talk of shuttering the Federal Reserve and abolishing the income tax. In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad "symbol" of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests," he says."

In my opinion, Rand Paul was extreme in his views and claimed not to be one that would compromise them.  I, for one, am glad to see he may not have been all that serious and is "softening around the edges".  Now....how the Tea Party sees it may be another thing. 

I guess you missed what he actually said, versus what some in the press wished he said.

Look here for his actual comments.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Well, I went to your link and read the article, even watched the video to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding, because you're right, I tend to just trust how someone comprehended a thing unless they have shown to me that they don't comprehend like I would.  So...he went from saying he was firmly against earmarks and pork to "well...depending how they go about giving out the pork would be a different thing, if it benefitted Kentucky".  (paraphrasing, of course).  While he of course should be doing and taking help for the benefit of Kentucky because thats his state, after all.  To me, its backpeddling, when you start justifying good reasons to take that pork, that you were dead set against during your campaign, despite how much of a difference it actually makes.  Actually?  To me, its a typical politician...NOT the change the Tea Party claimed to bring.  [sm=2cents.gif]

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Maybe its just been a long week for me.  I am taking it to mean, he still thinks earmarks and pork are wrong, no matter how small a difference it really makes, it just shouldn't be done.  **BUT**, if it goes through the right committee's and is approved for the right reasons), he would take help for his state of Kentucky.  Someone can correct me if I've interpretted it wrong.

**Edited to add....actually, I'm sure someone would be more than glad to correct me if I misinterpret it.  [:)]