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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I raised (well still in the process actually) three kids, and they all enjoyed McD's as an occaisional treat, and yes they liked getting the toys as well, but none of them is obese, they all ate healthy, so I see nothing wrong with offering the toy (which you can buy seperatly BTW, no need to buy the meal). Its up to the parents how often (if ever) the kids get McD's, its none of the Gvt's business.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

When they tell you what you can eat they are socialists/communists/something other than what I think our government should be.


When the media calls a criminal an immigrant (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101110/ap_on_re_us/us_adoption_battle) they aren't serving the country.

When the government seals someone's work under the guise of color (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101110/ap_on_re_us/us_supreme_court_doctor_s_advocate) of law to shut them up (no I didn't agree with the individual only their right to speak).

Wasn't it during the Clinton Administration that wanted to take your children under the government's wing    Looks like SF took it to heart.   Isn't taking your children under the Governments wing socialism?   If you don't have a logical argument isn't it in the socialists playbook to attack the individual personally the way I feel you did me by accusing me of being on something?   Who made you the boss of what I take (althought I didn't take anything I did exercise my god given right to FREE SPEECH - which it appears to me that you desire to quell.   Now may I suggest that you comment to the facts and issues or feelings and issues.   Thoughts are good.   Ideas are good.   But personal attacks aren't except in the socialist playbook (my personal research over the years)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Where do dumb poor people get money to eat out at restaurants ?

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Where do dumb poor people get money to eat out at restaurants ?

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Being a mom I have no problems with it. When my daughter was young she'd always want the unhealthy meals for the sole purpose of the toys. I rarely ever bought them for her though for that reason. They're tempting to children and it's like rewarding them for bad behaviour. I think it's a good idea but parents have to be vigilant and teach their children to eat healthier as well and not give in to the gimmicks.

In this day and age where the obesity rate in children is at an all time high I think it's time that government steps in. It doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to do the work.

How about you, as the parent, step in and do the work??? 

It astounds me how many people are willing to let the "oh-so-benevolent" government step in and take over THEIR job.  If you don't want your kid to get fat from eating unhealthy food, put on your big girl panties or your big boy pants and tell them "No".  And don't try to lay it off on the big bad corporations for their advertising gimmicks or "kids having a mind of their own".  Corporations are in business to make money, NOT to teach your children.  Kids DO have a mind of their own...and it is your responsibility as a parent to shape and nurture and direct that mind while understanding that there are going to be some battles that have to be fought and battles that are going to have to be let go.  If you decide a battle is important enough to be fought, then fight it and don't lose.  Even a therapist as liberal as "Doc Phil" will tell you that. 

There's a new book out.  The author is making the rounds and his latest stop was in Colorado.  The book tells parents that their kids SHOULD NOT be the ones in charge, NOR that they should be the number one priority in a couple's dynamic.  Surprise!!!!!  That's the way I was raised and it is the way I raised my kids.  Was it tough?  Sure...what with the government school teachers telling us that the kids' self-esteem was "ever so important".  I told the teachers and my kids that their self-esteem came about from doing something to earn it.  I wasn't about to put them down unnecessarily but I wasn't going to praise them each and every time they put their clothes away.  That was THEIR job and it was expected of them.  I was told by our minister...at the time---he has since been moved to an administrative possition within the church...that having and raising children were the reason couples came together in the first place and so they were the primary ingredient of a family.  I told him what I had been taught and raised with...children are INDEED a blessing but they are a responsibility and the way to ensure their happiness and proper growth was not by treating them like fragile little gods but like the human beings they were and handling them with the age-appropriate levels of responsibility and nurturing needed to bring them to maturity.  Part of what brings them to maturity is realizing that YOU are the one responsible for bringing them into the world and YOU are the one ultimately responsible for their growth and level of personal responsibilty...not the government schools, not the church, not the corporations and not the government.

Not sure if I have ever read a bigger load of sanctimonious bullshit in my life. Congrats, you obviously have the whole fucking thing figured out. I hope to GOD you are writing a book and getting ahold of Oprah so you can start spreading the good word.

I think we all know of personal responsiblity. But, the real thing about society and humans is, is that we all need help. We need help from each other to make us into the best we can be. Lastly, not everyone has the same situation as you. So putting your cookie cutter idea out there for each of us isn't logical.

Not sanctimonious...reality.  You want to be a parent?  Raise your kid and DON'T expect the government or anyone else to do it for you.  The argument can no longer even be made that it is being done to populate the world or to grow our nation...or any other.  You appear to be one of those who LOVES a nannyist state...fine then, go somewhere where there are those who love the nannyist state they live in.  England, France, Canada are all examples of nannyist states.  Ron takes note of liberty...part of liberty is the freedom to choose...choose to be a parent or don't choose to be a parent but don't choose to be and then ask the governement to do what you are incapable of...saying "No".

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Being a mom I have no problems with it. When my daughter was young she'd always want the unhealthy meals for the sole purpose of the toys. I rarely ever bought them for her though for that reason. They're tempting to children and it's like rewarding them for bad behaviour. I think it's a good idea but parents have to be vigilant and teach their children to eat healthier as well and not give in to the gimmicks.

In this day and age where the obesity rate in children is at an all time high I think it's time that government steps in. It doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to do the work.

How about you, as the parent, step in and do the work??? 

It astounds me how many people are willing to let the "oh-so-benevolent" government step in and take over THEIR job.  If you don't want your kid to get fat from eating unhealthy food, put on your big girl panties or your big boy pants and tell them "No".  And don't try to lay it off on the big bad corporations for their advertising gimmicks or "kids having a mind of their own".  Corporations are in business to make money, NOT to teach your children.  Kids DO have a mind of their own...and it is your responsibility as a parent to shape and nurture and direct that mind while understanding that there are going to be some battles that have to be fought and battles that are going to have to be let go.  If you decide a battle is important enough to be fought, then fight it and don't lose.  Even a therapist as liberal as "Doc Phil" will tell you that. 

There's a new book out.  The author is making the rounds and his latest stop was in Colorado.  The book tells parents that their kids SHOULD NOT be the ones in charge, NOR that they should be the number one priority in a couple's dynamic.  Surprise!!!!!  That's the way I was raised and it is the way I raised my kids.  Was it tough?  Sure...what with the government school teachers telling us that the kids' self-esteem was "ever so important".  I told the teachers and my kids that their self-esteem came about from doing something to earn it.  I wasn't about to put them down unnecessarily but I wasn't going to praise them each and every time they put their clothes away.  That was THEIR job and it was expected of them.  I was told by our minister...at the time---he has since been moved to an administrative possition within the church...that having and raising children were the reason couples came together in the first place and so they were the primary ingredient of a family.  I told him what I had been taught and raised with...children are INDEED a blessing but they are a responsibility and the way to ensure their happiness and proper growth was not by treating them like fragile little gods but like the human beings they were and handling them with the age-appropriate levels of responsibility and nurturing needed to bring them to maturity.  Part of what brings them to maturity is realizing that YOU are the one responsible for bringing them into the world and YOU are the one ultimately responsible for their growth and level of personal responsibilty...not the government schools, not the church, not the corporations and not the government.

Not sure if I have ever read a bigger load of sanctimonious bullshit in my life. Congrats, you obviously have the whole fucking thing figured out. I hope to GOD you are writing a book and getting ahold of Oprah so you can start spreading the good word.

I think we all know of personal responsiblity. But, the real thing about society and humans is, is that we all need help. We need help from each other to make us into the best we can be. Lastly, not everyone has the same situation as you. So putting your cookie cutter idea out there for each of us isn't logical.

Not sanctimonious...reality.  You want to be a parent?  Raise your kid and DON'T expect the government or anyone else to do it for you.  The argument can no longer even be made that it is being done to populate the world or to grow our nation...or any other.  You appear to be one of those who LOVES a nannyist state...fine then, go somewhere where there are those who love the nannyist state they live in.  England, France, Canada are all examples of nannyist states.  Ron takes note of liberty...part of liberty is the freedom to choose...choose to be a parent or don't choose to be a parent but don't choose to be and then ask the governement to do what you are incapable of...saying "No".

Well then. lol. So you are for taking age limits off of alcohol and cigarette consumption? Its the parents that should police their kids not the Store owner. Or the FDA, CDC or any other gov't agency that is there to put a regulation on anything. Should be the citizens and/or a parent's job to make sure that anything they buy is their responsibility, not the manufacturers......Bring on that Baby Formula from China!

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Whats funny is that everytime one of you "Conservatives" are given the obvious end to your mantra of "Freedom" and "personal responsibility" you start complaining that it isn't what you meant.