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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

If I have to see one more global warming documentary I will scream.

You don't have to see any.

Which is why I dont have a TV set.

Anytime there is wild life on TV-  the sound- comes off on fricken global warming.   So dont watch it with sound.   This agenda is everywhere.  I live like a glutton- I have heat and power and hot water and I do not plan to give it up.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

If I have to see one more global warming documentary I will scream.

You don't have to see any.

Which is why I dont have a TV set.

Anytime there is wild life on TV-  the sound- comes off on fricken global warming.   So dont watch it with sound.   This agenda is everywhere.  I live like a glutton- I have heat and power and hot water and I do not plan to give it up.

Pahunk, one of us is confused.

You started off complaining about how you will scream if you have to watch one one more global warming documentary, then you went on to say you don't have a television.

??????????

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Ok, I'll bite. Why are you whining then about PBS? Its obviously funded by the Corporate world just like all the other networks. Why pick on them?

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Ok, I'll bite. Why are you whining then about PBS? Its obviously funded by the Corporate world just like all the other networks. Why pick on them?

Excuse me?  Do you have any level of reading comprehension?

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
Ok, I'll bite. Why are you whining then about PBS? Its obviously funded by the Corporate world just like all the other networks. Why pick on them?

My guess is the same as why we Americans give a heck of alot of money to corporations. Not the pokey $420 million to PBS (according to one poster on here), but several billions to KBR, Halliburton, Boeing, etc. Its the TYPE of corporation, DomYngBlk, that apparently these conservative folks have a problem with: not-for-profit. The corporation doesn't go out to lie, steal, cheat, and manipulate the public, in order to raise the bottom line a mere 1% from the previous year. They have a hard time understanding organizations that are not out to 'get the public' for every penny through shadow advertising, fly-by-night agencies, or bait/trade tactics.

This isn't about the quality of shows on or presented by PBS. Its not about individuals that are on PBS. Not even the events they show. No, its about an organization that, for the most part is honest with people. Its the same with a host of other non-profit organizations (read: non religious in nature) that get money from the US Goverment. If Habitate for Humanities were getting federal dollars to help off-set costs, do you honestly think conservatives would say "oh, thats ok, they do good things for the community"? HELL NO, they would lump it in with PBS immediately. You and I could agree its a good organization, that should get federal dollars. It helps in every state of the Union. Even helps create homes for wounded veterans

I've come to understand, that the conservative mindset is "Since I'm selfish, everyone else has to be just as selfish as me!" It completely ignores reality. But then, when has that stopped conservatives from an arguement?

... The former Chairman defended the Board’s decision to hire a candidate with strong political ties because of her qualifications and the need to build relationships with Congress to secure future funding. He pointed out that other executives within public broadcasting had strong political affiliations and some had even run for political office before they took positions in public broadcasting....

You know... those evil, selfish, money-grubbing corporations. 

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

And you are just about as clueless as DomYngBlk. 

Aside from spewing your typical conservative hatred, you haven't even gotten correct the few actual facts that you attempted to employ.  It was said that CPB (not PBS) received $420 million from the Federal Government in 2010.  That number is lower than the actual amount reported here of $522.8 million.

Oh, and by the way... for all those in this thread who have been insisting that there can't possibly be any partisan activity within public broadcasting:  

Office of Inspector General:  Review of Alleged Actions Violating The Public Broadcasting Act of 1967, November 15, 2005

... The former Chairman defended the Board’s decision to hire a candidate with strong political ties because of her qualifications and the need to build relationships with Congress to secure future funding. He pointed out that other executives within public broadcasting had strong political affiliations and some had even run for political office before they took positions in public broadcasting....

I would assume that steps have been taken to reduce the possibility of this type of thing continuing, however, it does show that even a non-profit corporation with a benevolent mission can be influenced by political bias.

However, because the board of directors is appointed by the President and confirmed by Congress, I have my doubts that it won't ever happen again.

For the record, I have no problem with not-for-profit corporations... and I've seen nothing in this thread to indicate that any other conservative has a problem with not-for-profit corporations.  I think it has been abundantly evident that these corporations receive a good portion of their funding and support from for-profit corporations.

You know... those evil, selfish, money-grubbing corporations. 

The question is, does the Federal Government need to continue funding to these organizations... especially in light of the already out-of-control Federal budget and ever-growing deficit?

In tough times, we all should have to tighten our belts.  Sometimes that means letting go of the luxuries.

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Did you expend ANY carbon by making this post?

THINK.     If it consumed even 1 calorie- you are wrecking my globe!!!!

STOMP

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$420,000,000 / 3,500,000,000,000  = 0.00012, or 12/1000ths of ONE PERCENT. 

You want to bitch about this minuscule amount yet say bubkis about the bloated, fetid, and festering sewer that is the fucking defense budget.  Please spare me the outrage last time I heard the defense budget was about 33% of the approximately 3.5 TRILLION dollar budget, and was more than the NEXT TWENTY SEVEN NATIONS (COMBINED) ON THE DEFENSE SPENDING LIST SPEND.

The real outrage is TWENTY SIX OF THOSE NATIONS ARE OUR ALLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your so god damned worried over 420 million, buy three less F-22 Raptors, or better still, kill the program altogether.  We "hide" about 52 billion in nuclear weapons procurement in the Dept of energy budget.

420,000,000 / 52,000,000,000 = 0.00808  Or approximately 81/100ths of one percent. 

Yeah lets make a real fucking dent in the budget deficit by eliminating the subsidy to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. 

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
Aside from spewing your typical conservative hatred, you haven't even gotten correct the few actual facts that you attempted to employ.  It was said that CPB (not PBS) received $420 million from the Federal Government in 2010.  That number is lower than the actual amount reported here of $522.8 million.

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Oh, and by the way... for all those in this thread who have been insisting that there can't possibly be any partisan activity within public broadcasting:  

Office of Inspector General:  Review of Alleged Actions Violating The Public Broadcasting Act of 1967, November 15, 2005

... The former Chairman defended the Board’s decision to hire a candidate with strong political ties because of her qualifications and the need to build relationships with Congress to secure future funding. He pointed out that other executives within public broadcasting had strong political affiliations and some had even run for political office before they took positions in public broadcasting....

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Well... aren't you a right ray of sunshine.  

I do believe the topic of this thread is specifically public broadcasting.  Despite your apparent expectations, no one is obligated to itemize and scrutinize each and every budget item in order to simply raise the question about whether Federal funding should be continued for this one program.

As I have pointed out and Hippiekinkster has so graciously proved, there are plenty of entities and individuals who are more than willing to ensure the continued operation of public broadcasting through private support and donations.

The Federal budget will continue to be out of control for as long as people such as yourself persist in this mentality that "this one little amount" and "that small percentage" don't hurt.  Unfortunately, there are literally tens of thousands of small programs and expenditures that add up to a substantial sum.  We do need to curtail the main budget items... but to ignore the persistent trickle from the holes in our pockets is foolish.

Sheesh... and some people truly believe the conservatives are the venomous ones. 

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FY 2009 420M, FY2010 522.8M

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

This is a report about Bush appointees pushing a conservative agenda back in 2005.

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

*** hatred and nonsense edited out***

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

If you'd like to discuss possible defense budget cuts, I suggest you start a thread specifically addressing those.  I doubt, however, that I would participate as you've shown yourself to be incapable of focused thought and civilized discussion.

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

Sure YOU TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE AND START THE FUCKER, until then put up or shut up.  I skewered your whole (n-gauge) train of thought with the actual numbers but you want to ignore them.  You'd rather obfuscate, and dodge the figures, and accuse me of hatred, than actually address the point that the CPB is an utterly microscopic portion of the problem. 

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

Sure YOU TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE AND START THE FUCKER, until then put up or shut up.  I skewered your whole (n-gauge) train of thought with the actual numbers but you want to ignore them.  You'd rather obfuscate, and dodge the figures, and accuse me of hatred, than actually address the point that the CPB is an utterly microscopic portion of the problem. 

Tsk, tsk... yelling (all caps), language, and a hissy fit... all because someone doesn't do what you want them to do.  Have you considered Valium?