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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/11/2010 9:28:16 PM   
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I had a hunch it might have been cancer.  I'm sorry.




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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 8:47:47 AM   
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Oh honey, from one pet parent to another.. {{{HUGS}}}
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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 8:52:33 AM   
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Ty. I am going to research and ask other vets what we can do to keep her comfortable and slow the progression I'd we can. And just moniter her.
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TFB, I am so sorry to hear that it isn't a good diagnosis. I know that having gone through Porsche's death a couple of weeks ago that this is so very hard, and I wish for you and your Daddy the courage to be wise and strong for Ginger's sake. (((Hugs)))


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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 8:53:13 AM   
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I'm just so sorry. Know that if it trying to manage her symptoms becomes too much, making the decision to be the kindest pet mommy you can be, is courageous but hard. Be strong.

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 8:57:15 AM   
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hank you. To be honest, the moment I felt the lumps I thought cancer too. So I wasn't surprised at the diagnosis. It's still a bitch to have confirmed tho.


Hugs Ty for your condolances Steven and all.
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I had a hunch it might have been cancer.  I'm sorry.





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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 9:10:24 AM   
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This will sound like a nosey question,

may I ask how much you spent on vet bills over this?

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 1:46:35 PM   
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I am so sorry to hear the news :( I worked as a Veterinary technician for 5 years and have experienced all different kinds of cancers. It always hurt to know a poor diagnosis because in some small way it was like they were my dog, too. Spend as much time with her, let her have whatever her heart desires, and know you have many people sending their warmest thoughts.

Give her a big, loving kiss for me :)

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RE: It dont look good for our doggie. - 11/12/2010 1:56:40 PM   
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sorry to hear that TFB

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 4:05:06 PM   
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I'm very sorry to hear about the diagnosis, TFB.

To PA: I've spent a small fortune on vet bills in order to help my babies survive & live a quality life for as long as they are able. For me, it isn't the cost at all. But that's just me. They are my babies just as much as my daughter was. I had one cat on whom I spent $7,000 over the course of the 2 years he was with me. The look in his eyes when he would look at me was worth every single penny of it. He adored me at a time when I really needed adoration. For that alone, I would have spent 10 times that much if needed.

I also understand when you truly can't afford the vet bills. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that if you don't spend a fortune on your pet you're being a bad pet parent. There were times when I also couldn't afford it. One time, Mr. Cat almost died & then a friend found me a vet who made him well again in exchange for my doing a piece of artwork for him. Mr. Cat lived another 10 or 12 years after that.

We each have to make our own decisions about how to care for our babies. And whatever decision is made is, by definition, the correct decision.

When Mr. Cat finally was terminal all those years later, I went out & got him everything he ever loved to eat & gave it to him. We roasted a whole turkey just for him; sauteed chicken livers in butter; everything that he loved to eat & I snuggled him & talked to him. The day when it was time, his cat buddy who he had raised laid next to him on the living room rug, touching his paw & saying good-bye. I was devastated for so long after, but now I have these wonderful memories of an extraordinary friend who graced my life.

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 4:46:08 PM   
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My hunch is that she has already spent a fair amount on this- and the vet has told her that the treatments wont work-  that it would buy maybe a little time.

Knowing this poster- she is on a budget-  so spending 7k is not an option for her-- and nor would it work.

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 6:10:53 PM   
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It cost us 188 dollars. That was for the visit the cytology and aspiration and the medication for her eyes. The x rays will be another 130 something odd dollars The X rays are vital to knowing weather or not this is  in her lungs. If it is, then we're looking at probably less time  as healthy as possible with the disease than if not. After that I don't know how much it'll be. It depends on what she needs as far as pain medications and finally it'll be 200 and 65 dollars when it comes time for  easing her out of the world o plus what ever fee they want for the meds we want to give her so she'll be sedated when we take her in..
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This will sound like a nosey question,

may I ask how much you spent on vet bills over this?



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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 6:23:55 PM   
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Ok-  I would not skimp on the pain medication.   So keep that money aside.    

You tried to remedy the cancer- you made a reasonably effort.  I am sorry that it comes to this.  :-(

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 6:26:21 PM   
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Hey TFB
I know you and I have PM'd over this too, so you know my thoughts are with you.

Regarding your tough decision, as I've said before, whatever decision you make is the right one.  It is not about money--make your decision from your heart. What matters is that Ginger is comfortable.  You and your vet can discuss the different options available to the both of you.  Too often, pet parents feel a sense of guilt--and prolong treatments that they know are futile.  For us humans, we can explain to a person--to ourselves--but we can't explain what's happening to our little furry ones.  They just know that they hurt...or that something bad is happening to them..  Sometimes, it's really okay to just let nature take it's course, and provide comfort measures like medications along the way.

When it was time for me to make that decision on Samantha's behalf (my 14 year old tabby), I found a vet that makes housecalls.  It was really the best option for me--Sam passed very peacefully in my arms, and the vet gave me lots of time to hold her and say goodbye. The vet sent me a beautiful, hand-written sympathy card.

There are several home vets in Sacramento--here's one: http://www.petsrx.com/

They may be helpful for you as Ginger's condition changes--if she becomes too ill to travel to the vet, that might be a good option for her. If you establish a relationship with them now, it will be a little less difficult when the time comes.

Be strong--you know how hard this will be--you have many people who understand and share in your pain and grief.
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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 6:56:13 PM   
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Thank you. House call vets are way to expensive, I called two already and one wanted 600 dollars to come do the deed and then if I didn't want her ashes back it was 400. Another place wanted 200 for the visit and then if I want just her ashes back it's 285 If I don't mind a group cremation it's  80 dollars for her ashes back.   We're just going to have to go with the local vet  at these prices. The local vet is 265,  plus what ever the sedative costs, but that's cheaper than the home  in the long run. I'll call around however, maybe there's better in home visit prices.



The painful stressful aspects, as well as the cost is why we're not going for Chemo. The vet says a lot of dogs don't get super sick on it, but it's an injection about once every week,  and face it most of the doggies don't like going once every now an then let alone every two weeks.


With my cockerspaniel; when it came down to the bottom line for him, I didn't put him on a bunch of medications or attempt to make him any better, he was already dying and He was already almost 20 years old if we calculated right. his time had obviously come.

With ginger  because she's only 10, compared to how well some dogs do, clear up to their 20's it feels like fate is gyping her. But who knows maybe it wasn't in her cards to live as long  as some  other animals have. Maybe the cosmos has something planned for her special that they have to call her home.
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Hey TFB
I know you and I have PM'd over this too, so you know my thoughts are with you.

Regarding your tough decision, as I've said before, whatever decision you make is the right one.  It is not about money--make your decision from your heart. What matters is that Ginger is comfortable.  You and your vet can discuss the different options available to the both of you.  Too often, pet parents feel a sense of guilt--and prolong treatments that they know are futile.  For us humans, we can explain to a person--to ourselves--but we can't explain what's happening to our little furry ones.  They just know that they hurt...or that something bad is happening to them..  Sometimes, it's really okay to just let nature take it's course, and provide comfort measures like medications along the way.

When it was time for me to make that decision on Samantha's behalf (my 14 year old tabby), I found a vet that makes housecalls.  It was really the best option for me--Sam passed very peacefully in my arms, and the vet gave me lots of time to hold her and say goodbye. The vet sent me a beautiful, hand-written sympathy card.

There are several home vets in Sacramento--here's one: http://www.petsrx.com/

They may be helpful for you as Ginger's condition changes--if she becomes too ill to travel to the vet, that might be a good option for her. If you establish a relationship with them now, it will be a little less difficult when the time comes.

Be strong--you know how hard this will be--you have many people who understand and share in your pain and grief.
frederich



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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/12/2010 9:16:59 PM   
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I'm so sorry.
Shocked about the costs--housecall vets do run higher, but definitely I didn't have that high a bill.

Hold her close, tell her how much you love her and how much joy she brings you.  I swear mine do understand.

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/13/2010 10:05:06 AM   
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She's in bed next to me. I coughed and she looked over and licked my face.:)

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RE: It's cancer , she has lympho sarcoma - 11/16/2010 10:28:29 PM   
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Ok so the vet said it's stage 4 next stage is in her bones n blood. Hopefully not for a while though.

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