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tazzygirl -> New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 4:46:27 PM)

WASHINGTON — People back Republican tax cut plans but not the GOP campaign to repeal President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, according to a poll suggesting that the Republicans' big Election Day win was not a mandate for the party's legislative wish list.

Fifty-three percent say income tax cuts that soon will expire should be renewed for all — including the highest earners, as Republicans want — according to an Associated Press-GfK Poll conducted just after last week's elections. But 44 percent would continue the cuts only for those earning under $250,000 a year — which Obama favors — or let them lapse for everyone.


When it comes to the health care law Obama signed in March, just 39 percent back the GOP effort to repeal it or scale it back. Fifty-eight percent would rather make even more changes in the health care system or leave the measure alone.

Two-thirds want the Senate to ratify Obama's nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia, including most Democrats, about 6 in 10 Republicans and independents — and even about half of conservative tea party supporters. Some Republican senators oppose the treaty. The Obama administration hopes to win Senate approval in the upcoming lame-duck session of Congress and will need GOP support to garner the 67 votes required.

The poll underscored deep partisan divides on taxes and health care. About three-quarters of Republicans want extended tax cuts to include the wealthiest, while nearly two-thirds of Democrats want to exclude the wealthy. While 61 percent of Republicans want to repeal Obama's health overhaul, 85 percent of Democrats want to expand it or leave it in place.

Among independents, about half want the tax cuts to include those with the highest incomes. About two-thirds want to preserve Obama's health package or strengthen it.


Boehner has called last week's elections "a mandate for Washington to reduce the size of government." McConnell has said that rather than falling in love with Republicans, the public "fell out of love with Democrats."

Neither Boehner nor McConnell can boast much personal support from the public. For each, about a third view them favorably, about a quarter unfavorably and about 4 in 10 don't know enough to say.

The poll also found:

—Sixty-three percent rarely or never worry about being victims of terrorism.

—Almost two-thirds think Obama is handling terrorism effectively.

—Sixty-two percent don't want any countries to have nuclear weapons, while just 6 percent said any country that develops them should be able to keep them.

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Nov. 3-8 by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Corporate Communications and involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,000 adults chosen randomly from across the U.S. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.


http://dailyitem.com/0100_news/x892104619/New-Poll-Public-mixed-on-GOP-tax-health-plans

Think any politician is really listening? I dont... but what i do know is that after the last election, the people have a taste of their power. 2012 could end up with another massive amount of changes if the voters are ignored again.




peacefulplace -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 4:50:26 PM)

Here's my question: Were the voters listening to THEMSELVES and the candidates for whom they voted? Apparently not!




DarkSteven -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 4:59:45 PM)

Obama was elected because of the anti-Bush mood.  The GOP scored big this year because of an anti-Obama mood.

If you look at it as an anti-incumbent mood, it makes more sense.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 5:01:07 PM)

Exactly, DS.




Laymedown60 -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 5:15:24 PM)

Do you really think people are that shallow?...lol

I think you are selling the people short...they know how bad the economic scene is and the democrats were ineffective...sooo time to see if the republicans can do better...BUT... if they get hung up on the 2012 election and keep being obstructive now then who knows what will happen and what the mood will be in two years.

If the republicans were smart they would try their best to work with the democrats and hammer out some compromises. Then if Obama refuses to budge even SP could get elected.

Butch




willbeurdaddy -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 5:44:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Exactly, DS.


Not if you look at the percentages of incumbents that lost by party.

And the OP poll disagrees with other recent polls on health care where nearly 60% want repeal or a major scale back.




TheHeretic -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 7:08:13 PM)

Steve, how many Republican incumbents were booted from office by that anti-incumbent mood last week? 2? It is wrong to assume the Repubs have been embraced as anything more than the lesser of evils, and messengers to the President, but it is also wrong for the Dems to be in denial about what just happened.

Tazzy, I will be satisfied if they produce two years of gridlock, and at least make an efort to pass a budget next year. They don't have the ability to force a repeal of Obamacare, I hope they don't waste a lot of time making a spectacle of it.




Lucylastic -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 7:12:28 PM)


[;)]ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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They don't have the ability to force a repeal of Obamacare, I hope they don't waste a lot of time making a spectacle of it.

This
very much agree




pogo4pres -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 7:31:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60

Do you really think people are that shallow?...lol

I think you are selling the people short...they know how bad the economic scene is and the democrats were ineffective...sooo time to see if the republicans can do better...BUT... if they get hung up on the 2012 election and keep being obstructive now then who knows what will happen and what the mood will be in two years.

If the republicans were smart they would try their best to work with the democrats and hammer out some compromises. Then if Obama refuses to budge even SP could get elected.

Butch




Yes I do, given that the "estimated median"* IQ in America is 100, based on this estimate 1/2 the nation has to have less than a 100 IQ.

*Median a statistical measure at which exactly 1/2 of the data are larger, and exactly 1/2 are smaller.

The estimated median also happens to be the estimated average, which would mean IQ is distributed in a standard bell curve.  It however is not, the curve should be skewed right or left depending on which there are; more high IQ's (right skew) or low IQ's (left skew) now this is all nice for statisticians, but to the "average" person it means pretty much nothing.



Statistically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ




TheHeretic -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 7:39:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


[;)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

They don't have the ability to force a repeal of Obamacare, I hope they don't waste a lot of time making a spectacle of it.

This
very much agree



Hoping for a new storyline in your soap opera, huh? [:D]




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 8:25:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60

Do you really think people are that shallow?...lol

I think you are selling the people short...they know how bad the economic scene is and the democrats were ineffective...sooo time to see if the republicans can do better...BUT... if they get hung up on the 2012 election and keep being obstructive now then who knows what will happen and what the mood will be in two years.

If the republicans were smart they would try their best to work with the democrats and hammer out some compromises. Then if Obama refuses to budge even SP could get elected.

Butch


What i saw in the elections isnt a sudden love of the republicans, or a sudden hatred of the democrats, but an anger over politics as usual.

Case in point... how many blue dog democrats survived? Half.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 8:40:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Exactly, DS.


Not if you look at the percentages of incumbents that lost by party.

And the OP poll disagrees with other recent polls on health care where nearly 60% want repeal or a major scale back.


A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1.

Sept 2010

http://timesnews.net/article.php?id=9026541

The most unpopular provisions of the law, among the 49% who want all or part of it repealed, are the individual mandate and the increase in Medicare payroll tax for upper-income Americans. The majority of those critics want to hang on to the tax credit for small businesses, a guarantee of insurance regardless of health status, an end to the Medicare drug-benefit doughnut hole and financial help to those who cannot afford coverage.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/11/09/kaiser-poll-finds-health-care-overhaul-law-wasnt-driving-issue/

The only one touting anything close to what you stated was the Rasmussen Poll...

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters favor having House Republicans investigate the projected costs and implications of the health care law passed by Congress earlier in the year.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/november_2010/most_voters_favor_investigation_of_health_care_law_s_potential_impact

And that mentions only investigating, not repeal.




kdsub -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 9:03:15 PM)

Hi tazzygirl


I believe you are right... the die hard liberals and conservatives on this site all make the same mistake... They think because they, as a party, win seats in an election that the majority of Americans believe in their ideologies. They conveniently forget the election before.

I believe and I think the voting record of America shows that the vast majority of voters have no allegiance to any party or ideology.

Butch

PS tazzygirl you are right about me… I’m trying to decide how I want to represent myself in the future...I’ve not made up my mind.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/11/2010 9:10:44 PM)

Hiya Butch

Thats the political backlash that they didnt think about when all the sniping and backstabbing was going on. Voters are tired of the party fights and being neglected in the process of determining who had what donated or who wants granny dead.

Here is my prediction for the next election (12).

IF both sides can sit down and hash out the problems of this country, the Republicans stand to regain many of the seats they were seeking this time around in the Senate, as well as possibly the Presidency.

IF the Republicans insist on pushing for the multiple investigations into the Obama administration that some have bandied around, then they will lose. Voters dont care about that when they have no food on the table and no place to live. IF that happens, it will be a Democratic sweep again.

ALL sides (voters) want the numbers for the health care law scrutinized. I got no problem with that. IF we were lied too, let it come out. IF not, then give it a rest. The majority of voters polled want more than what we were given. Why isnt any Republican listening to that little fact?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 2:48:23 AM)

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that 55% of voters favor repeal of the health care law, including 44% who Strongly Favor it. Forty percent (40%) oppose repeal of the law, with 30% who are Strongly Opposed. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

The majority of voters have favored repeal in every weekly Rasmussen Reports survey since Democrats in Congress passed the law in late March. Voter support for repeal has ranged from 50% to 63%. Just before Election Day, 58% favored repeal.





tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 2:53:55 AM)

Wednesday, November 10, 2010 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Voters are ambivalent about House Republican plans to investigate the Obama administration – unless the subject of the probe is the unpopular national health care bill.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters favor having House Republicans investigate the projected costs and implications of the health care law passed by Congress earlier in the year.

Thirty-two percent (32%) oppose such an investigation. Fourteen percent (14%) more are not sure about the idea. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Eighty-one percent (81%) of Republicans and nearly two-thirds (65%) of voters not affiliated with either major party support an investigation of the costs and implications of the health care bill. Most Democrats (56%) are opposed.

Voters have mixed feelings about House Republican plans to investigate other aspects of the Obama administration’s performance to date. GOP voters like the idea; Democrats don’t; unaffiliateds are almost evenly divided.

“Voters want Congress to focus on substance, not distractions,” observed Scott Rasmussen. “Congressional questioning about policy issues are okay for most voters, petty partisanship is not.”

Still, just a week after national elections that shifted control of the House to Republicans, the number of voters expecting more partisanship in Washington, D.C. has dropped to its lowest level since March of last year.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/november_2010/most_voters_favor_investigation_of_health_care_law_s_potential_impact

Try again sparky.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 2:58:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


Try again sparky.


You try again. You dont like what Rasmussen says in one poll, so you find one that you can spin your way.

Only one poll matters...the one that put the GOP in control of the House. As the moron in the White House said in his first "bi-partisan" meeting, elections have consequences, and defunding and winding down a bill that really will bankrupt the US will be one of those consequences.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 3:01:55 AM)

Oh, but i did find the poll you referred too.. since you cant bother to link to anything that might prove you wrong...

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that 55% of voters favor repeal of the health care law, including 44% who Strongly Favor it. Forty percent (40%) oppose repeal of the law, with 30% who are Strongly Opposed. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Now, do be a good boy and read a bit further down...'

Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters think it's better for Congress to review the health care bill piece by piece and keep the parts it likes rather than scrap the entire thing. But 39% say Congress should dump the whole bill and start all over again.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

From your article, supporting the one i provided.... ahhh... grins




willbeurdaddy -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 3:03:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Oh, but i did find the poll you referred too.. since you cant bother to link to anything that might prove you wrong...

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that 55% of voters favor repeal of the health care law, including 44% who Strongly Favor it. Forty percent (40%) oppose repeal of the law, with 30% who are Strongly Opposed. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Now, do be a good boy and read a bit further down...'

Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters think it's better for Congress to review the health care bill piece by piece and keep the parts it likes rather than scrap the entire thing. But 39% say Congress should dump the whole bill and start all over again.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

From your article, supporting the one i provided.... ahhh... grins


Rinse and repeat.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Poll... is anyone listening? (11/12/2010 3:03:36 AM)

No need sweetheart. Thank you for proving me right. [;)]




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