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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/13/2010 3:09:17 PM   
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Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/13/2010 3:33:16 PM   
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This IS Beck we are talking about....is anyone still listening, seriously?

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 6:10:05 AM   
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And of course, this whole thread is just from one letter. I'm sure no one actually watched any of the three shows (except for me, maybe) where Beck DID say that at 14 years old....Soros nor his father could be to blame for just trying to survive during such a horrific time.

Funny enough though, in an interview, Soros said THAT particular year of his life was his happiest. *Shrugs*

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 7:30:43 AM   
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So apparently it's OK to make anti-Semetic remarks as long as you kow-tow to the official line on Israel ......

I know that Israels many excesses have caused the size of its cheer squad to dwindle alarmingly .... but I hadn't realised things had gotten that desperate! Wish I could say I was surprised .....

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 10:16:51 AM   
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Beck has NEVER made anti-semitic remarks. For everyone who comes on here and says that he is an anti-semite.....please show me ONE remark that he has made against the JEWISH people or Israel. You can't.

He does not like George Soros, which is different than making broad sweeping anti-semitic remarks. He makes anti-Soros remarks. HUGE difference.

So please show me remarks he has made against Jews in GENERAL. That he hates Jews or hates Israel. I'll wait.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 10:22:35 AM   
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Let me see if I've got this straight.

"The Merchant of Venice" contains nothing antisemitic, because they only go after the one Jew, not Jews generally. Have I got it right?


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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 10:26:12 AM   
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Beck has NEVER made anti-semitic remarks. For everyone who comes on here and says that he is an anti-semite.....please show me ONE remark that he has made against the JEWISH people or Israel. You can't.

He does not like George Soros, which is different than making broad sweeping anti-semitic remarks. He makes anti-Soros remarks. HUGE difference.

So please show me remarks he has made against Jews in GENERAL. That he hates Jews or hates Israel. I'll wait.


Sooooooo.................just out of idle curiosity, what do you think Beck's intention was in bringing this up in the first place?

If he does not like Soros, that's fine.  There are plenty of current, pertinent issues he could have attacked him on.

Yet he chose this as a line of attack.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 10:34:46 AM   
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Beck seems to be running into alot of trouble with the Jewish community this year.

http://www.vosizneias.com/61491/2010/08/04/washington-jews-glenn-beck-clash-over-nazi-remarks/



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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 10:44:25 AM   
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Beck seems to be running into alot of trouble with the Jewish community this year.

http://www.vosizneias.com/61491/2010/08/04/washington-jews-glenn-beck-clash-over-nazi-remarks/


I think this quote from your link sums it up.

Unfortunately, too many people are buying it.

Greer’s column for the Washington Post’s “On Faith” section unsurprisingly ignited the debate once again. Political philosophy aside, Greer’s lead sentence may have been enough to set the host off: “Mr. Beck, you are a con man and America is not buying it.”



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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:06:00 AM   
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But I see that you don't mention that Foxman sent him a letter, which is linked to Beck's website which said that Beck has always been a friend to the Jewish people. Nice research there.


But it simply doesn't matter one way or the other about Beck's friends or how he feels about the Jewish people. The only thing important anymore is just to say it. Once said and it receives some gravitas, soon 1 of 5 Fox viewers at least...will believe it.

The idea is to marginalize Soros in ANY way one can...even if it isn't true. This is all in the same category of lies told about Obama. It doesn't matter that they aren't true...the sole purpose is to marginalize the admin. and Soros's influence...same with Bill Clinton and $60 million prosecution to nowhere.

Why do you think Fox had a sign that read Democrat under Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican of Idaho's face when he was caught in an airport restroom...charged with soliciting sex? So at least 1 of 5 Fox viewers now 'know' he was a democrat and even though Fox knew he was a repub. Fox would be Goebbels orgasm of propaganda and almost everything out of Beck's mouth...is a lie. It continues right along: Here a blatant lie about a dem congressman that will have a 1/3 of Fox viewers believing it. Doesn't matter that it was a lie...just say it, again and again...anything about anybody.

That anybody listens to and believes anything any of these talking heads have to say...must mean they live a very sheltered life.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:08:08 AM   
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I sincerely dont understand why you are entertaining a beckerhead.
but then Ive entertained myself with worse, so what the hell, carry on chappys
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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:08:52 AM   
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FWIW, Glenn Beck is a whore for ratings, he began his career as a "morning zoo" DJ, he was NEVER #1 in his time slot.   In 1986 when he was in Phoenix Beck called the wife of his primary rival (and one time best friend) ON-AIR.  While on-air with her, he felt compelled to rag on them about being unable to procreate.....in the immediate aftermath of her having had a miscarriage.

Now I don't know about anyone else out there (especially those that listen to and defend him), but I seriously doubt even Howard Stern would stoop so low in his antics.  That is the type of crap Beck has done for his whole career.  If you think he does anything other than "schtick" for the money you are sadly mistaken.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/21/glenn_beck/



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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:34:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?


Music, I'm an Independant and I agree with you that people can spend their money on politics if they so wish.
But, like the Kennedys you have to look at where that money came from.
Soros collapsed the currencies of Maylaisia and Thailand in the 90's and he severely hurt the British pound and the British people .
And he was found guilty by a French court of insider trading.
A scumbag is a scumbag.
I wouldn't relish the task of trying to defend this scumbag.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:48:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?


Music, I'm an Independant and I agree with you that people can spend their money on politics if they so wish.
But, like the Kennedys you have to look at where that money came from.
Soros collapsed the currencies of Maylaisia and Thailand in the 90's and he severely hurt the British pound and the British people .
And he was found guilty by a French court of insider trading.
A scumbag is a scumbag.
I wouldn't relish the task of trying to defend this scumbag.

You mean...no, please don't tell me, Soros is...is a capitalist ? Just what is the world coming to ? I am sure now of the impending fall of western civilization.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 11:53:57 AM   
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he had to find someone else to pick on after Harry Reid won his seat back, SNORTS



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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 12:09:42 PM   
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How about if we just say that Beck is not anti-semitic and get that out of the way. I actually doubt that he is.

Now we can get to the actual issue, which is the repeated indiscriminate use of or reference to a well known atrocity with deep seated emotional ties for a particular segment of society and very unsettling feelings for society as a whole in a quite fatuous attempt to equate his target du jour with the darkest event in recent history. 

It is beyond any previous bounds of callousness, and it is the heighth of cynical whatever-it-takes-for-ratings nothing-is-sacred MO, affected parties be damned.

How do you think another segment of society, especially, and most of us generally would feel about repeated references to other atrocities? "Oh look! the liberal mob have the noose hung from the tree already, and are just riding around the neighborhood looking for another cherished American value to to drag to the scene!" Or "This is just one step short of beating the slaves for learning to read!"  One after another, on a semi-regular basis, knowing that people cringe at every mention of it. Or perhaps child porn references ... "They are just treating the Treasury as their personal Lolita!"

But it's OK if used for a worthy cause, right?

'Too bad about the victims or family of victims of all the above and having wounds ripped open repeatedly, but I've got a country to save here!'

Right. OK. Sure, we get it. Sorry we made such a fuss about it. Your self-appointed title of savior of morals certainly overrides such silly concerns, and immoral practice is the best way to propound moral precepts.


Got it.



   

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 12:42:17 PM   
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Please refrain from going off topic and attacking a poster rather than what might be said by a poster. If your post has been removed, you were off topic, personally attacking another member, quoting a post that required removal or responding to it.

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 1:46:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?


Music, I'm an Independant and I agree with you that people can spend their money on politics if they so wish.
But, like the Kennedys you have to look at where that money came from.
Soros collapsed the currencies of Maylaisia and Thailand in the 90's and he severely hurt the British pound and the British people .
And he was found guilty by a French court of insider trading.
A scumbag is a scumbag.
I wouldn't relish the task of trying to defend this scumbag.

You mean...no, please don't tell me, Soros is...is a capitalist ? Just what is the world coming to ? I am sure now of the impending fall of western civilization.




Mr. Rogers, are you saying that capitalists can't be scumbags?

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 1:54:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?


Music, I'm an Independant and I agree with you that people can spend their money on politics if they so wish.
But, like the Kennedys you have to look at where that money came from.
Soros collapsed the currencies of Maylaisia and Thailand in the 90's and he severely hurt the British pound and the British people .
And he was found guilty by a French court of insider trading.
A scumbag is a scumbag.
I wouldn't relish the task of trying to defend this scumbag.

You mean...no, please don't tell me, Soros is...is a capitalist ? Just what is the world coming to ? I am sure now of the impending fall of western civilization.

Mr. Rogers, are you saying that capitalists can't be scumbags?

I am saying most...most, not all capitalists and I define that as those on wall street and corporate managment...are scumbags. 

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RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust co... - 11/14/2010 4:23:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Huh?

I thought you righties loved when people can freely spend their money and their company's money on politics.

Why isn't THAT "economic terrorism"?

Have you notified the Supreme Court?


Music, I'm an Independant and I agree with you that people can spend their money on politics if they so wish.
But, like the Kennedys you have to look at where that money came from.
Soros collapsed the currencies of Maylaisia and Thailand in the 90's and he severely hurt the British pound and the British people .
And he was found guilty by a French court of insider trading.
A scumbag is a scumbag.
I wouldn't relish the task of trying to defend this scumbag.



And just as with Kennedy bashing, you have to look at the source and the agenda.

In the case of Soros, claims of his being the primary cause of the currency crises originated in Jewish Cabal conspiracy circles, with enough filtering and covering of tracks to lead to use of this false information by those not aware of its origin.

The Asian financial crisis had been building up for over four years, from a "financial liberalization" -> credit boom -> asset bubble scenario we should all be familiar with by now. Amidst all the turmoil Hong Kong was returned to China on July 1, and the baht was re-valued on July 2, 1997. All the western money had flooded the region in the early 90's and now everybody wanted to pull out at once over the uncertainty surrounding the handover, along with the other financial instability begot by their own contribution. Malaysian Prime Minister (at the time) Mahathir, known for previous anti-semitic comments, blamed Soros, as a Jew, for causing the currency crisis in his country, oblivious to the whole situation. He later retracted his accusations.

The ERM had the Deutsche Mark as the anchor currency. Germany does not like inflation, and when they raised interest rates in '92 the other European countries were reluctant to follow. Germany joined with the UK and France in currency interventions but when it could go no further they stopped. The ERM just didn't work and that was the case before the speculation got heavy. Britain's reluctance to either increase interest rates or allow the pound to float (exiting the ERM)  too far beyond what was a foregone conclusion  was what allowed for the great discrepancy reflected in the large short positions.

Soros had no more to do with the pound collapse than John Paulson had to do with the financial markets collapse we are in the midst of now.




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