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rulemylife -> Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 6:20:59 AM)
Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments Glenn Beck has railed many times against George Soros, a Hungarian-American financier and liberal philanthropist whom the conservative host dubs the "progressive puppet master." But Beck ramped up his criticism this week on Fox News and his radio show, making comments about how Soros survived in Nazi-occupied Hungary that have provoked denunciations from Jewish organizations. Beck said on the radio Wednesday that Soros—as a 13-year-old Jewish boy, living apart from his parents in order to avoid apprehension by the Nazis—"used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off. … It was frightening. Here's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps." Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League and a Holocaust survivor, called Beck's comments "completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top." "While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros' views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable," Foxman said. "To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant."

Sserpentia -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 7:51:46 AM)
But I see that you don't mention that Foxman sent him a letter, which is linked to Beck's website which said that Beck has always been a friend to the Jewish people. Nice research there.

Sserpentia -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 7:55:25 AM)
Maybe this will help. The ADL is standing by him. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/beck_adl_foxman_letter

tazzygirl -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 8:31:29 AM)
The Anti-Defamation League's Abe Foxman said in a statement sent to Salon today that he still believes Fox host Glenn Beck "is a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish people," even in the wake of a week of conspiratorial attacks on George Soros that some saw as anti-Semitic. "But I also believe that there are certain things he doesn't understand, which have led him to make insensitive remarks," Foxman continued. Foxman had criticized Beck this week on fairly narrow grounds -- that the Fox host went too far when he (falsely) accused Soros, who as a boy survived the Holocaust by posing as a Christian, of helping send Jews to the death camps. Beck also called Soros a "puppet master" who, he claimed, was personally responsible for many of the catastrophes of the 20th century and who is now setting his sights on America. In response to the ADL's criticism, Beck's news website today posted a letter from Foxman sent on Oct. 22 in which he apologized to Beck for mistakenly including him in a list of celebrities who had made anti-Semitic comments. Foxman wrote: "Even though we disagree from time to time, I know that you are a friend of the Jewish people, and a friend of Israel." (See the full letter below.) http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/beck_adl_foxman_letter So a letter sent to Beck on Oct 22nd, that is the letter linked to Beck's web site, is to you a supporting letter in this situation. Seems the ADL didnt like some of what Beck said in regards to Soros.

hertz -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 8:42:10 AM)
The ADL are a bunch of racist assholes. Why would anyone seriously care what they think?

Sserpentia -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 8:57:37 AM)
The OP was making claims that Beck was being slammed for making anti semitic remarks. I just posted a letter that showed that statement was false. Beck is anti-Soros. Who cares? He did three shows against Soros. Not against Jewish people. The fact that Soros was born Jewish has nothing to do with it. In fact, saying that Soros is Jewish is the only way that anyone can make the case that Beck is an anti-semite, since he has been such a supporter of Israel. The case just can't be made.

Sserpentia -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 8:58:48 AM)
Sorry, that last post was supposed to be a reply to Tazzy

tazzygirl -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 9:06:53 AM)
Beck was criticized by Foxman, per your own link. The letter was dated Oct 22nd... This letter was dated Nov 11. The full press release: New York, NY, November 11, 2010 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today criticized as “completely inappropriate and offensive” remarks by Glenn Beck on his radio and television programs, in which he inaccurately connected George Soros, who was then a young boy, to the actions of others in sending Jews to death camps during the Holocaust. On his October 10 radio show, Beck described how Soros, who was born in Hungary to Orthodox Jewish parents, “used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off. And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening. Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps.” Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor, issued the following statement: Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top. For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say – inaccurately – that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific. While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant. The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/11/adl_on_beck_on_soros/index.html Foxman had indeed hotly criticized Beck. Then back peddeled. Politics make strange bedfellows, dont ya think?

Raechard -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 9:09:53 AM)
The ADL isn't the be all and end all when it comes to deciding what remarks are or are not anti semitic. Their tame support is not some kind of stamp of immunity that gives Beck free reign to make offensive accusations. Such letters are not how the majority decide who is and isn't overstepping the mark, it's kind of tokenism you are seeking i.e. 'A prominent Jew said Beck is a good fellow to the Jews therefore he is'. I'm sure everyone has their own mind and don't need organisations to tell them who is or isn't being nice to the Jewish people. Why do people continue to watch Beck, you can watch him for an hour one day a year and then you know what he is going to be saying everyday for the rest of the year. Such low standards; that programme is an hour long pile of crap repeated weekdays. If you was to watch the Disney channel instead you'd learn more about the world.

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 12:40:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sserpentia But I see that you don't mention that Foxman sent him a letter, which is linked to Beck's website which said that Beck has always been a friend to the Jewish people. Nice research there. It's right there in the link. [sm=wtf.gif] As much as I would like to post every single word in every article I link to, CollarMe tends to frown on that. But I sincerely hope it didn't take too much time out of your busy schedule to read it for yourself.

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:10:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sserpentia Maybe this will help. The ADL is standing by him. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/beck_adl_foxman_letter Maybe this will help, when you you can hear the words from this lunatic yourself. And you really have to love the constant references to esperanza when he is too stupid to realize he has the word wrong. Glenn Beck George Soros Holocaust \| Mediaite Abe Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League (and a Holocaust survivor himself, like Soros) released a statement today calling Beck’s remarks “completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top”: For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific. While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant. The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest.

popeye1250 -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:10:55 PM)
A "13 year old Jewish boy?" Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Jewish boys assume "Manhood" upon reaching the age of 13?

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:27:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 A "13 year old Jewish boy?" Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Jewish boys assume "Manhood" upon reaching the age of 13? I don't know Popeye, let's take a look at that. Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" walk into a bar and order a beer? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" enter into marriage? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" buy a pack of cigarettes? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" sign a binding contract? Should I go on or are you getting the idea?

popeye1250 -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:34:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 A "13 year old Jewish boy?" Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Jewish boys assume "Manhood" upon reaching the age of 13? I don't know Popeye, let's take a look at that. Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" walk into a bar and order a beer? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" enter into marriage? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" buy a pack of cigarettes? Can thirteen year-old Jewish "men" sign a binding contract? Should I go on or are you getting the idea? So you're saying they "don't" assume manhood upon reaching the age of 13?

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:43:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 So you're saying they "don't" assume manhood upon reaching the age of 13? I am saying that a religious ceremony does not equate to real life.

Slavehandsome -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:46:11 PM)
The United States has rewarded many Arab men, women and children for turning in their neighbors, for those neighbors to immediately be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay or other Guantanamos around the world. Very few have made it out of those prison camps alive. If George Soros did that as a child, perhaps the success he has since achieved, has become the inspiration for many Iraqis and Afghanis to turn on their fellow countrymen as well. As for being a 'puppet master', we can certainly finger Soros and Rupert Murdoch for funding the hijackers of the Tea Party to rope the Tea Party back into the neo-con agenda before any real change was born. How interesting to see Glenn Beck rail against Soros but not Beck's master Murdoch. This is a fine example of the doublespeak that George Orwell wrote about in 1984. Expect more of the same.

popeye1250 -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 1:48:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 So you're saying they "don't" assume manhood upon reaching the age of 13? I am saying that a religious ceremony does not equate to real life. Either they "do" or they "don't", you can't have it both ways.

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 2:02:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 So you're saying they "don't" assume manhood upon reaching the age of 13? I am saying that a religious ceremony does not equate to real life. Either they "do" or they "don't", you can't have it both ways. Of course you can. Eighteen year-olds are considered adults. Yet these same eighteen year-olds that can be shipped off to war and face every legal adult responsibility are deemed by our society too immature to be allowed to drink. If that's not having it both ways I don't know what is.

rulemylife -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 2:07:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slavehandsome The United States has rewarded many Arab men, women and children for turning in their neighbors, for those neighbors to immediately be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay or other Guantanamos around the world. Very few have made it out of those prison camps alive. If George Soros did that as a child, perhaps the success he has since achieved, has become the inspiration for many Iraqis and Afghanis to turn on their fellow countrymen as well. As for being a 'puppet master', we can certainly finger Soros and Rupert Murdoch for funding the hijackers of the Tea Party to rope the Tea Party back into the neo-con agenda before any real change was born. How interesting to see Glenn Beck rail against Soros but not Beck's master Murdoch. This is a fine example of the doublespeak that George Orwell wrote about in 1984. Expect more of the same. While I agree with some parts of what you said, the main point is that this was a scared 13 year-old child on his own. For Beck to use this in his quest for higher ratings is beneath contempt.

popeye1250 -> RE: Glenn Beck draws criticism over latest Holocaust comments (11/13/2010 3:06:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 So you're saying they "don't" assume manhood upon reaching the age of 13? I am saying that a religious ceremony does not equate to real life. Either they "do" or they "don't", you can't have it both ways. Of course you can. Eighteen year-olds are considered adults. Yet these same eighteen year-olds that can be shipped off to war and face every legal adult responsibility are deemed by our society too immature to be allowed to drink. If that's not having it both ways I don't know what is. Rule, George Soros wasn't in the U.S.A. when he was 13 was he? And all those "laws" wearn't in affect before the 1960's. I'd go down to the corner store and buy "a pack of Luckys" for my father when I was 8 or 9 years old no questions asked. Ten years before I was born kids would go down to the corner bar and get a pail of beer for their parents. He should probably be deported from the U.S. In some parts of the world George Soros is considered to be an economic terrorist. So of course you side with him over Glen Beck!

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