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hausboy -> RE: Question to pro-Dommes and ex-pro-Dommes (11/18/2010 3:09:55 PM)
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I've almost never personally seen that behavior outside of Los Angeles or San Francisco at specific venues. I have seen it in several venues in those locations which attempted to be more open and commercial and advertise in local alternative lifestyle magazines which were heavily read by swingers. Effectively they were trying for a hybrid bathhouse/kink venue, or in one case a hybrid bar and kink venue, and in another case a hybrid swinger's resort and kink venue, and the results were an ugly culture clash.
I don't think any of the venues survive to this day, so naming names is probably an exercise in futility.
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LadyNTrainer:
I ask this question without any intention of being disrespectful or inflammatory--the clubs that you experienced this in S.F.--were they also predominantly straight ones? I was a DM at numerous S.F. clubs through the nineties--I never had problems when it was "women only nights" and "Queer parties open to all genders." We had a few parties that were open to all--and the rule was that if you were a single man there alone, you had to be in leather, fetishwear or cross-dressed. It eliminated a lot of problems by what we called "tourists.' I'm really saddened reading your post-- I had no idea it had gotten so bad.
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