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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 7:59:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nslavu


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ORIGINAL: PorcHouse
Real0ne, I haven't read the whole topic, just the first two pages, but I would strongly recommend you to check out this link:
http://www.freestateproject.org/
And this radio show:
http://www.freetalklive.com/



There's also this .. Robin Hood Tax and likely several other 'methods' to overthrow existing dynamics.

The problem with serfs is that they can never come together.


the word overthrow is a dangerous word to use around america because little do people know that the lieber code is still well in effect and as soon as those words are uttered by someone on american soil they just pained a target on their back for assassination.   So I hope everyone keeps that in mind as I would hate to see anyone get hurt through improper understanding of the law in force and its ramifications.


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:00:33 AM   
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google it man

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:03:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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I am not reading this whole thread.

Allodial means without lord. That means you are the lord. Nobody gets that type of title or deed today, fact. File in your common Law courts all you want but when the taxman comes, you know the difference, bigtime.

If you actually have allodial title, you can then charge tolls from those who wish to travel down your road(s), you can do alot of other things as well. In a sense the government has allodial title to every blade of grass in their jurisdiction. You can only be a holder, and that also means a holder in goosd grace with the REAL owner(s), which are they who are more powerful than you. It has been that way for millenia, but now it seems to be disguised.

Society cannot exist without structure. Previously this subjugation was used to keep undesirables out, but that is no longer politically correct for the serfs. Only the big boys are allowed to do it. Anything hidden eventually shows, and this is showing as a class war.

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Not exactly.

Al od is possession with out character.

In other words as soon as you use it for commercial purposes you now have assigned a character to it.  In fact a commercial one at that.

"fee simple" is just that sort of character and i can expand on that...

Land "lords" would acquire their plots lets say in some manner.  

Now what they did to change that into a feud was called sub-infeudination.  They took that perfected manner of possession and split it it up.  That means they section off a part and sold it to you and would give you absolute ownership in "fee simple".

Land possession in al od has or does not require a lord but one can become a lord through sub-infeudination and substitution "privileges" within the fee simple title.

Now on the surface that sounds like you own it lock stock and barrel but you dont!  You have all these so called rights!  You can farm it make money from it, build your mansion on it, sell it to another pass it as a heritable property leave it go to waste add to it whatever your heart can imagine to do with it etc etc etc..

However "fee simple" is a title of color and you are NOT what is called the "paramount owner"  the land Lord is.

Anytime you have to pay a party to be on some ground or in some building you pay a land lord.

Now you do not have the title of land lord unless you some how rent or sell the land in a split title manner where some rent or fee must be paid. (be it taxes, ad valorem, services whatever)

That and there can of course be sub land lords, in as much as the person who "owns" the property in fee simple can rent to the next guy or subsection the holdings off as well.

So that being the case if we look at the state who collects taxes the only way the government could do that is to dispose of the land in "fee simple" where all land remains "vested" in the government. (government as paramount owner)

That is a split title and if taxes are imposed feudalism.

Now there is another way to accomplish this (actually several) where it is not really feudalism in the strict sense of the word but in substance the same thing and that is to tax you for services presumably rendered. 

Now I realize I just did a bleeding edge semantic (welcome to legooo land)  but for the moment just to make a point lets say that is what they did.

That said taxes are being commercially forced upon you at the end of a barrel of a gun. 

They go by "res" "ident" meaning you are identified within their borders therefore you owe a tax.

Thats why the hiway nazi revenue collectors can take you to jail when they make their false arrest on a traffic stop if you do not show an id.

Of course it is crime to put on those red lights and arrest your movement in pretense that there is an emergency.

Taxation and land ownership is handled much the same way....

They could just as well in this modern world do it like any other corporation and invoice you for services used but nope its all put on a thing called a tax roll that 99% of all the people on here never even seen and they just pay it because they were told they had to pay it without question and it costs to much to fight or change it so they elect ohaha and dubya because they will change it!.......and the beat goes on....

Now if you look at the words I used like absolute ownership and can do whatever you want etc etc it gives the person not versed in law the impression wow it mine all mine! woo hoo!

That is why I throw this stuff back in peoples faces like politesub to explain their position and they never do.  Just hit and run posting and they take the high road and put ya on ignore after they cornered themselves.  LOL

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:04:23 AM   
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Yeah, plenipotentiary judge david-wynn:miller.

Does he inhabit the room next to you at the asylum? 

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:21:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, plenipotentiary judge david-wynn:miller.

Does he inhabit the room next to you at the asylum? 


he is not the only one there are several, he popularized the algorithm.  You may want avoid falling into the same trap as the rest who use words they really do not understand.


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:25:44 AM   
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So, Sturlasson; legendary lawgiver of the althing...

Cease and desist with the etymology and ancient history lessons.

Prithee; give us the words, the magic incantations, the abracadabric that causes lawyers ears to run blood, eyes to explode from their sockets, tongues to dry up in their mouths, their teeth to fall out, their conniving thoraxes to cleave; spilling their offal in the dust, the fringes of flags to fall, the rushing of the seas to surcease, shrieking in otherworldy tones in reverse latin like Megan in The Exorcist. The female lawyers stabbing themselves in the cunt with a replica of the Magna Carta, the male lawyers twisting their penis into balloon animal shapes, here;  in the plain sight and hearing of all present assembled, that we may set the world aright and each one become the angel, the king, the sovereign man of the halcyon days of yore, true freedom.

And when you write it, do so on the back of a matchbook please, that we all may understand this confounding secret that lays in plain view, just under the surface of the waters, reflected dimly, as in a mirror, and only privy to the chosen few, who dared to dream, yanno; those such as yourself.

I have never seen someone like you before, who can compress so many words into such little thought.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up with this autistic asswipe, it is tiresome.

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:30:56 AM   
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quit whining!  lol




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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:32:25 AM   
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It is too bad MN does not use his brain. He has the potential to be smart. 

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:33:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

BTW this is from your own link: The Babylonian calendar was a lunisolar calendar with years consisting of 12 lunar months, each beginning when a new crescent moon was first sighted low on the western horizon at sunset, plus an intercalary month inserted as needed by decree.


No. It is not from my link. It is a dog bone link you can chase off the link you supplied from your god wiki. You'll also note it says By Decree meaning some king decides what is and what isn't.

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I googled it. Wiki was the only site that wasn't an astrology site. On this I take the archaeologist's word (no ancient civilizations used this, to our knowledge) over the astrologer's word (this is a super secret horoscope only I can give you).


Archaeologists? Okay, let's use shovels to understand the stars. Are they writing horoscopes now? Tomorrow you will come face to face with an angry dinosaur but since they no longer exist that shit in your pants is only indicative of what you believe.

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The first site you linked says this: "The dates have never been updated to take the Earth's Precession into account so you probably aren't what you think you are!!! The position of the stars is so different compared to the time of early astrology that the Sun actually passes through 13 constellations, not 12."
In other words due to the precession of the Earth, there should now be 13 signs of the zodiac instead of the original 12. Twelve should be changed to thirteen.
Which is the polar opposite of your original claim: "original astrology included 13 constellations, not 12. Ophiuchus (serpent) is the omitted constellation."



There is no original 12. That was done by decree, by edict as was the thirty degree nonsense. It is only what they (wiki edicts) refer to as 'original'. This what you're not getting, word bender.

Even if I were to acquiesce to your wiki's tendency to regurgitate the 'official' word as decreed by some Nobles many years ago, I would expect you to chase all the links within those pages, their references, then scrutinize who's word it is, then chase the discussion section and it's links with the same critical eye. The fact that none (or few) of those links are astrologers stops me because this is like believing archaeologist can perform brain surgery and just taking their word for it.

This was however a nice little exercise in avoiding your fallacies that somehow Reagan's belief in astrology makes Kennedy's speech on 'shadow governments' nonsense.


Kennedy Speech This kind of shit will get you killed.

George Washington Letters Wary of fundamentalists and Illuminati. A lot of reading here, but this shows essentially what the American revolution was about. An attempt to get away from the edicts and official decree rulers in Europe. aka The Lords and or Nobles. On the other hand he was on the cusp of Aquarius/Pisces and those people are nutty like Reagan was. He too was aquarius :-D


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:34:55 AM   
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LOL.  Nah, you see it doesn't make a whit of difference that you are incompetent, insane, and an idiot as defined by Blacks Law.

I like to have people pour out their hearts, their ambitions, their dreams, their fantasies.....

So I can laugh in their fuckin' face, cuz I'm cruel like that.

You can quote me.    

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:43:07 AM   
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It is true that Kennedy was KILLED.  

not assassinated- but murdered.

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:44:54 AM   
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killed, assassinated, murdered.

please provide me the etymology and nuances of the meanings of these words.

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:54:19 AM   
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assassinated and murder both have intent killed does not

but just remember you called me an idiot so dont take my word for it lmao


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 8:57:38 AM   
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assassinated and murder both have intent killed does not

but just remember you called me an idiot so dont take my word for it lmao



Even my grandmother knows it was the grid that killed him.


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:03:31 AM   
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No, Im sorry.......kill does not have an inherent meaning that excludes intent.


kill:
to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay; murder.

Thanks for playing, don't forget your parting gifts and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:07:59 AM   
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murder and assassination is killing with intent.  LOL

killed in its pure sense has no intent.


yup ok I did an always never didnt I lol

good catch!  whats the score now?  RO 10,000 ron 2?  LOL


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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:08:18 AM   
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RO is not on the computer. 

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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:11:52 AM   
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murder and assassination is killing with intent.  LOL

killed in its pure sense has no intent.

I never said it excluded intent you are just playing your typical word games and assigning shit I never said.  (though I am sure in your mind you think I did right....)  or lack of thought which ever



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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
assassinated and murder both have intent killed does not

but just remember you called me an idiot so dont take my word for it lmao



It was your insane alter ego that posted this then.  I think I am beginning to see beneath that shit river a mile wide with you swallering a turd every stroke that you so often fantasize about.




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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:14:20 AM   
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Make as much straw as you can out of that LOL

You remind of a broken clock.

they are right twice a day and you can take that to the bank!

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murder and assassination is killing with intent.  LOL

killed in its pure sense has no intent.


yup ok I did an always never didnt I lol

good catch!  whats the score now?  RO 10,000 ron 2?  LOL



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RE: America land of the feudal, even I didnt "real... - 11/19/2010 9:15:43 AM   
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again, if you have the alchemy, the incantation, say it plainly.  you don't you only have a insipid circular dog chasing tail fantasy.

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