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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 9:12:30 AM   
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I bet it makes more money then Dianna collectables.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 9:52:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		There were two particular things that Princess Diana did that made me admire her.

Her trips to Angola where she propelled the government into negotiations for a worldwide ban on landmines and lets remember that her work was hardly finished when she died.

And she played a significant role in de-stigmatizing the perceptions about the people who were HIV positive.

I didn’t admire her because she was part of a fairytale or pity her when all that laundry was publicly washed, but the good that she did outweighs the bad.



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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 11:28:34 AM   
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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 1:14:47 PM   
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LadyConstanze, i don't know when you think Diana died but your profile says you are 36 and i am 39 and was 27 years old when she died in 1997 which probably means you were 24ish.  So you weren't THAT small, unless you are speaking of size.

Sorry that just popped out at me when i was reading comments.

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To me it seems ages ago, not that small because I knew I was traveling at the time but a student, which is something that seems to be a life-time ago and for me counts in terms as not really grown up, technically yes but my student time was somehow before me "real adult time", I could have sworn I was younger, but it does blur a lot with the Royal Wedding (most of the Royal nonsense blurs because I try to avoid the rubbish to be honest) where I was definitely a small child as my grandmother was still alive and forced me to watch it with her.

As I said, I try to avoid all that stuff as much as possible and don't get the "Lady Diana Cult" at all or the cult about the rest of them, I understand that at one point in time they were a tourist attraction, but they're not even that anymore, to me they just seem to be a highly dysfunctional family with a lot of money and not too much common sense.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 1:50:31 PM   
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There is nothing honourable about her, she was a spoiled brat who couldn't handle the job. The fact that she died unnecessarily in no way changes the facts, nor does it beatify her, despite what many seem to think.


Oh hog wash!

She was the best thing to happen to that family in over a century.




If we could only sell them to the Yanks, you got Becks and Posh wouldn't Kate and Will make the collection complete? I haven't quite figured out what use they are here apart from costing a lot of money.

i can't figure out their use either and won't even bother to try...a day like today just reminds me again to get my damn pay tv sorted as there at least i could escape this royal wedding stuff..so in general i wish them the best even when personally i couldnt care less...



You must be the only Kraut to see it that way...because every one....every single one....of your newspapers had it at front page news. Die Welt....Bild...the lot....ours didn't...The Guardian...Financial Times....The Independent etc.....

I personally couldn't give a flying one about the whole affair but the Krauts seem to have a taste for it.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 1:54:07 PM   
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Do they have to test her to make sure she's a virgin?  Do they do that in modern times?  It is a beautiful ring.  Hope she gets a prenup, as those royals tend to make bad marriage decisions.  



If I were a woman and some bloke tried to put his mother's ring on my finger.....I'd be busy looking for the nearest door.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 1:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be fair to the happy couple....I was watching the news when they were being interviewed.....and while he looked every inch the descendent of a German family....she had a fairly nice pair of pert tits. And for that they both deserve credit.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 2:18:11 PM   
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To be fair to the happy couple....I was watching the news when they were being interviewed.....and while he looked every inch the descendent of a German family....she had a fairly nice pair of pert tits. And for that they both deserve credit.



NG, you're right there, he looks German and she actually looks Irish.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 2:18:56 PM   
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The Independent etc.....


Not the Independent.  It's the least insane about the Royals than all the other national newspapers.  It didn't go fanatical, like the others, when Diana died, either - which is one major reason why it's still my regular paper.

I don't mind royalists in the UK enjoying their thing - I really don't.  I just wish a) the royals could be paid for entirely by their royalist fans and b) that the media would, finally, stop pumping its fawning, drivelling propaganda at us all indiscriminately.  There are millions of non-royalists in the UK.  The media persists in ignoring their existence, though - and never more so than when there's some 'big' royal event occurring.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 2:37:44 PM   
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To be fair to the happy couple....I was watching the news when they were being interviewed.....and while he looked every inch the descendent of a German family....she had a fairly nice pair of pert tits. And for that they both deserve credit.



NG, you're right there, he looks German and she actually looks Irish.



Irish Popeye?! She's an English rose....plenty of them round these parts.

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 3:00:01 PM   
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To me it seems ages ago, not that small because I knew I was traveling at the time but a student, which is something that seems to be a life-time ago and for me counts in terms as not really grown up, technically yes but my student time was somehow before me "real adult time", I could have sworn I was younger, but it does blur a lot with the Royal Wedding (most of the Royal nonsense blurs because I try to avoid the rubbish to be honest) where I was definitely a small child as my grandmother was still alive and forced me to watch it with her.

As I said, I try to avoid all that stuff as much as possible and don't get the "Lady Diana Cult" at all or the cult about the rest of them, I understand that at one point in time they were a tourist attraction, but they're not even that anymore, to me they just seem to be a highly dysfunctional family with a lot of money and not too much common sense.



Wherever did you get the idea that the royal family are not tourist attraction anymore? Tourist revenues are huge and are going up an average of 11% a year. Last year alone, £500,000000 was spent by overseas visitors on attractions associated with the royal family.
That doesn't include those 30 million tourists paying for hotels, restaurants, coffee shops, taxis, as well as spending money in our struggling shops. The revenue these tourists bring in is huge.
I understand that London does have tourism markets outside of the royal family, but they are probably the main thing that attracts tourists to Britain.

As for being a waste of time, what’s the alternative? More politicians’? Politicians’ cost us a lot more, for much less in return.





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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 3:37:13 PM   
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Wherever did you get the idea that the royal family are not tourist attraction anymore? Tourist revenues are huge and are going up an average of 11% a year.


Visits to Buckingham Palace bring in a fraction of the income that the French Palace at Versailles brings in.  This is despite the fact that the French haven't had a monarchy for two centuries, and also the fact that Versailles is a long way out from the French capital (unlike Buckingham Palace, which is right in the centre of London). 

It's unlikely that British royalty account for much of tourism here.  Arguably, it would (ironically) play a bigger part if the royals didn't exist - all the palaces then could be thrown entirely open for visitors.  And we'd have 'more history' for visitors to see - a major change in a country's constitution has that effect.  But, in the end, I just don't think it's plausible that tourists will change their decision to visit the UK on the basis of the existence, or non-existence, of our royalty.  We'd get far more money from any given tourist fleecing him or her in one of our overpriced West End shops in an hour. 

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 3:56:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually its not a fraction. Yes the French are in the lead but they don't get the big spenders from Japan like we do. We may not have open palaces but we do have the pomp and ceremony and although I personally find that yawn worthy, that's what the Japanese come here to see and right now, we need their yen.

The royal family pay their own debts, unlike our government.




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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 4:20:44 PM   
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There is nothing honourable about her, she was a spoiled brat who couldn't handle the job. The fact that she died unnecessarily in no way changes the facts, nor does it beatify her, despite what many seem to think.


Oh hog wash!

She was the best thing to happen to that family in over a century.




If we could only sell them to the Yanks, you got Becks and Posh wouldn't Kate and Will make the collection complete? I haven't quite figured out what use they are here apart from costing a lot of money.

i can't figure out their use either and won't even bother to try...a day like today just reminds me again to get my damn pay tv sorted as there at least i could escape this royal wedding stuff..so in general i wish them the best even when personally i couldnt care less...



You must be the only Kraut to see it that way...because every one....every single one....of your newspapers had it at front page news. Die Welt....Bild...the lot....ours didn't...The Guardian...Financial Times....The Independent etc.....

I personally couldn't give a flying one about the whole affair but the Krauts seem to have a taste for it.



Don't I love it if Northern Scum calls me a Kraut, can you explain how the product of Italian/Swedish parents happens to be German? By assimilation an having lived there? Oh dear, then I also must be Irish, Australian, American and oh yeah, British since I am currently living near that great shitpile, it's called Manchester.

But if you see fit to cite Bild, I guess you're more familiar with The Daily Star or The Sun, but then your nick says you are a Northerner...

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 4:25:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Allthatjazz, sorry but how many tourist come exactly because of the Royals? My guess would not be a lot, there are a ton of reasons to see London, so far I haven't met a single tourist who goes there because of the Royals.

As to paying their own debts, I might be misinformed but aren't they getting massive allowances that are paid for by the tax payer?

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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 5:40:03 PM   
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I believe we contribute something like 62p a year per head in tax towards the royal family. I dread to think how much tax we pay our MP’s
Money paid to the queen comes from the crown estate, which she owns as a hereditary sovereign. The crown lands are managed by the government and earns a revenue of billions of pounds a year. This money goes back to the civil list and a portion of it is paid directly to the queen as a wage. The surplus goes to the treasury.
She also has a private income from the Duchy of Lancaster which is a huge amount of land.

I may come over as a royalist but there are things I strongly disagree with. I don’t agree that the queens tax contribution should be voluntary and I certainly don’t agree with the queen escaping inheritance tax on her mothers properties.
I think minor members of the royal family (too many to mention) shouldn’t be receiving state funds and I do think the queen should be paying in full for this wedding.


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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 6:03:52 PM   
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Actually its not a fraction.


More than fifty thousand people a year visit Buckingham Palace, according to its own website.  So, call that 'more than' 60, 000. 

Versailles Palace gets three million - fifty times as many visitors, according to the National Geographic website.




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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/17/2010 9:35:30 PM   
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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/18/2010 1:45:58 AM   
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Actually its not a fraction.


More than fifty thousand people a year visit Buckingham Palace, according to its own website.  So, call that 'more than' 60, 000. 

Versailles Palace gets three million - fifty times as many visitors, according to the National Geographic website.



I feel like we are picking at straws here!
If you have been reading the Buckingham Palace website, then you know that our palace isn't open every day of the week from 9 till 5 for tourists. Its actually only open in August and September. What your saying is misleading to anyone who doesn't know, that Buckingham Palace is only one of the many royal attractions and that the most visited attraction is The Tower of London, keeper of the crown jewels and the Beefeater. Coming up a close second is Hampton court. Then there's Kensington Palace, Kew Palace, The Royal Mews and the royal parks. Outer London London has other attractions like Windsor castle. On top of that there are ceremonies like changing of the guards and horse guards parade.


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RE: ROYAL WEDDING!!! - 11/18/2010 1:47:45 AM   
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