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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/17/2010 7:14:20 PM   
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That strikes me as one of those comments where, if it's true, nothing happens, but if it's not then some heavy shit goes down.

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Heh - are you thinking of a UK version of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre?   I know the area Lady C lives in - and, yup, they're like that there.


I might be living near The Edge (and not the guitar playing one) and as you know, I'm not overly fond of the locals, but I know where you live, people from Brizzle all sound like Vicky Pollard!

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/17/2010 7:18:35 PM   
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No, you've never mentioned that - I'd remember if you had.  Me, I collect scaffolding planks for that purpose.  Really strong and will last forever as shelves, tables . . .   You can get cheapo drills, sanders and jigsaws for about a tenner each these days.  £30, basically, to create much - if not all - of your furniture.  (Though chairs are hard work.)  That idea's always appealed to me ever since I first watched the Robinson Crusoe series.



What? Not even about the freaking idiot architect who designed that miserable box they call a bathroom? And to top it all off, you can't even screw shelves on the walls because the wiring and piping is bloody everywhere, it made me design and build this really clever shelve that goes in front of the bath, really absolutely brilliant and lots of space, only when it was finished I realized that the problem was that one could actually not get in the shower anymore, so it was dismantled, back to the drawing board and now it's back again, in its new and improved shape with free access to the shower....

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/17/2010 7:26:22 PM   
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Obviously I haven't complained enough to you about the odd proportions of the house that make bought shelves and closets almost impossible, they're all too short or too long, so yours truly is fairly often buying wood to make things herself (and it is an additional kick that makes me grin, that one of the shops where I buy wood is called SM supplies)


No, you've never mentioned that - I'd remember if you had.  Me, I collect scaffolding planks for that purpose.  Really strong and will last forever as shelves, tables . . .   You can get cheapo drills, sanders and jigsaws for about a tenner each these days.  £30, basically, to create much - if not all - of your furniture.  (Though chairs are hard work.)  That idea's always appealed to me ever since I first watched the Robinson Crusoe series.


A frankly lunatic mate of mine (total propeller-head, IQ in the high 190s, used to work for me) once designed a "home entertainment centre stand" in his lunch hour, using nothing but breeze blocks and scaffolding planks, while we watched in horror.

It was somewhat Heath-Robinson, but it worked and it didn't even look that bad either*.

*He said "industrial". We said "pikey"

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 9:58:53 AM   
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A frankly lunatic mate of mine (total propeller-head, IQ in the high 190s, used to work for me) once designed a "home entertainment centre stand" in his lunch hour, using nothing but breeze blocks and scaffolding planks, while we watched in horror.

It was somewhat Heath-Robinson, but it worked and it didn't even look that bad either*.

*He said "industrial". We said "pikey"



Heh.  I think I'd have plumped for 'rustic' if I'd put together something similar.  I did furnish a place once with wood and lots of very 'marine' - looking rope and bits of scaffolding planks, once.  Shelves can look good if strung to the wall with that kind of rope, anyway. 

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:01:46 AM   
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Heh.  I think I'd have plumped for 'rustic' if I'd put together something similar.  I did furnish a place once with wood and lots of very 'marine' - looking rope and bits of scaffolding planks, once.  Shelves can look good if strung to the wall with that kind of rope, anyway. 


Maybe so, but to my eye it usually (but not always) looks like the builder didn't have the cash or transport to get to IKEA

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:03:45 AM   
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I might be living near The Edge (and not the guitar playing one) and as you know, I'm not overly fond of the locals, but I know where you live, people from Brizzle all sound like Vicky Pollard!


They do.  Speaking of Brizzle, I was in a cafe today chatting with Justin Lee Collins. (He's always dossing around in cafes near me, and will talk to anyone [evidently].)  He was telling me that, apparently, West Country English is understood more easily by non-British English-speakers than any other UK accent.  He was told not to bother toning it down for his shows. 

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:05:27 AM   
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Maybe so, but to my eye it usually (but not always) looks like the builder didn't have the cash or transport to get to IKEA


That was true of my 'decorating', admittedly.  I was a broke student at the time.  I couldn't even afford a hammer.

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:08:24 AM   
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Maybe so, but to my eye it usually (but not always) looks like the builder didn't have the cash or transport to get to IKEA


That was true of my 'decorating', admittedly.  I was a broke student at the time.  I couldn't even afford a hammer.


Oh well that's fine in that case then. Broke trumps all other considerations.

I went to IKEA a while back and noticed they had a huge pile of own-brand hammers next to a load of their flat-pack cupboards.

I thought "yeah, you've tried to put one of the fuckers together too eh?".

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:10:04 AM   
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I was in a cafe today chatting with Justin Lee Collins. 


A mate of mine lives in Brizzle.

He reckons more people there have spoken to JLC than haven't

Apparently a nice guy though, if a little "eager".

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 10:13:31 AM   
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They do.  Speaking of Brizzle, I was in a cafe today chatting with Justin Lee Collins. 

Oh, so you've heard of him now? He walked past us once while we were by the water and you looked at me like I was from *outer space* when I mentioned it once he'd gone!

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 11:54:24 AM   
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Oh, so you've heard of him now? He walked past us once while we were by the water and you looked at me like I was from *outer space* when I mentioned it once he'd gone!


Yes, but to be fair, I always looked at you like you were from outer space. 

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 11:56:38 AM   
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A mate of mine lives in Brizzle.

He reckons more people there have spoken to JLC than haven't



I can totally believe it.  I've seen him strike up conversations with people who don't know him from Adam and are just walking by.  I think he's just hyper-extroverted.  Though, probably a bit vain, too.  But a nice enough guy.

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 1:10:57 PM   
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I am so enchanted by DIY programs...and so disenchanted with DIY. We don't even own a proper saw (though I do have a router for my Dremel).

I don't know if I'd let someone borrow my sewing machine...I know that everyone asks if they need anything sewing relaTed, rather than venture into the boxes. Just because the threads are arranged according to colour family...

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 1:13:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lady Hib, you do need to hear a proper Liverpool accents, it's puke inducing and frankly freaking horrible...

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 1:42:06 PM   
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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 1:42:20 PM   
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I thought "yeah, you've tried to put one of the fuckers together too eh?".


Yes, and they're utter bastards.  And I've really, really grown to hate MDF and chipboard. 

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 1:47:40 PM   
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Hardest UK accent for me: Somerset.


Really? Well, that blows away what I've heard.  Some think it's the more similar to American accents than any others in the UK. 



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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 2:09:28 PM   
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I thought "yeah, you've tried to put one of the fuckers together too eh?".


Yes, and they're utter bastards.  And I've really, really grown to hate MDF and chipboard. 


To be fair (and I always try to be fair!) IKEA stuff tends to come in 2 or 3 “flavours” per range; a) cheap as chips/student flavour, b) a bit more expensive and c) quite pricey. In my experience a) is only slightly better than the utter crap you get from places like MFI, but the b) and c) options are normally fine – I’ve got a set of "Billy" (bookcases and CD/DVD towers) which are “proper” wood, and they've been taken apart and bunged back together in many moves over the years, and still come together again beautifully every time.

The cheap stuff though is, as you say, a living nightmare of MDF nastiness. The point is, I reckon, that even clever design (and some of their designs are very clever) can’t make up for basic materials.

One thing I do like about IKEA though is that they make it a point to use as few tools as possible; normally it's a) a hammer (if it's got a back-board that needs nailing/tacking, b) that slightly cheap Allen key they give you for free (I've got a set of H-Pro Allen keys though, so I use them instead) and c) a screwdriver (and most of their stuff has dual-type heads, meaning you can use a cross-head or flat screwdriver, so once again I break out my pro tools, coz I'm anal like that ) ... compare this with MFI-type designs, where you seem to require at least 50 tools to put up a shelf, and at least 47 of them won’t be included.

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 2:13:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bought a few things from IKEA, but if you want the nice stuff that is real wood and not chipboard, they get pricey...

And I am just leaning back and looking at my made to measure kitchen shelves and wonder how I can club Peon to death with them, they are very solid wood, I don't own powertools he said, phew....

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RE: The Stupid Stuff - 11/18/2010 2:16:57 PM   
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I bought a few things from IKEA, but if you want the nice stuff that is real wood and not chipboard, they get pricey...


Agreed, but I like a lot of their stuff and their "good" stuff does last (in my experience at least), so I usually grin and bear it. There's sometimes an "in-between" priced range for some things too, which can be worth looking at.

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