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Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices!


Just what the UK needs to cheer us all up. Hurrah for the UK Royals!
  18% (8)
Not really bothered, but good for them. Nice enough couple
  56% (25)
Parasites, only good for distracting us from the mess the State's made
  25% (11)


Total Votes : 44
(last vote on : 12/8/2010 1:34:27 AM)
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LadyConstanze -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 2:36:49 PM)

But they would visit no matter if the Queen is there or not... And as I said, most don't just come for the Royals but they fit it in, usually only on their first time in London...

The Silver Jubilee was a bit before my time, I guess weddings and funerals attract tourists, but my guess is that a lot more people came to London to see Live Aid 1 and 2, or to see various concerts, do some shopping and go clubbing than to see the Queen and her offspring.

Ahhh old Keith, living proof that drugs don't destroy everybody's brain, seriously, somebody who took so many drugs and is still alive should be a national treasure and I think The Who, The Stones, The Beatles and various other bands possibly contributed a lot more to Great Britain's economy than the Royals (aren't they of mainly Greek and German descent anyway?)




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 3:02:14 PM)

We did look at Buck House when we were in London. It was there, eh? [;)]

I am a big Mitford fan, and it astounds me how many of that uppercrusty set were utter fascists back in the day. What were they THINKING?




Lucylastic -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 3:06:02 PM)

I think that had to do with rebellion against the strict victorian morals, to be honest, a natural progression?





PeonForHer -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 3:41:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I am a big Mitford fan, and it astounds me how many of that uppercrusty set were utter fascists back in the day. What were they THINKING?


In the late 1930s it didn't look as though the UK had a snowball's chance in hell if Germany were to have declared war on us.   It was clear that we'd have crumbled against an all-out invasion and it was only because Hitler, inexplicably, didn't order an invasion after D-Day that we had enough time to get ourselves properly armed.  Pfft.  The phrase 'which side is a chap's bread buttered?' springs to mind - especially if such a chap has German connections. 














Hillwilliam -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 4:39:21 PM)

I'd do her


I'd do her with My cock
I'd do her on a rock

I'd do her on a cable
I'd do her in a stable

I'd do her with some beer
I'd do her over here

I'd do her on a horse
I'd do her, yes of course

I'd do her under spam
I'd do her, Hill I am




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:12:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

But they would visit no matter if the Queen is there or not... And as I said, most don't just come for the Royals but they fit it in, usually only on their first time in London...


Exactly. People come to Britain, generally, for the history. It's not like anyone ever does a "spot the inbred loafers" tour.

Buckingham Palace without the Queen would be exactly the same.

Oh no wait, it wouldn't - it's be millions cheaper because we'd have put the old girl out to grass.




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:18:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It was clear that we'd have crumbled against an all-out invasion and it was only because Hitler, inexplicably, didn't order an invasion after D-Day


After D-Day? Inexplicably? What the fuck are you on?

Oh and BTW, we would not have "crumbled", you fool. Learn something about military logistics, Operation Sea Lion, the Battle Of Britain, the plans Churchill and others had for the “second phase” and ... well basically, read a few books. Any books. Alice In Wonderland couldn’t make what you're writing ATM any worse.

Christ it's posts like that that worry the hell out me. If that's the level of knowledge we're turning out now we really are going to be a nation of burger flippers, within a couple of decades too [:(]




PeonForHer -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:37:21 PM)

[quote ] ORIGINAL: After D-Day? Inexplicably? What the fuck are you on? [/quote ]

*Sigh*.  What I was 'on' was mixing up D-Day with the withdrawal of the expeditionary forces in May and June of fucking 1940.  I'm fucking sorry about that.  It happens because the action took place in and around Dunkirk.  

Please re-read my fucking post, but now reading 'D-Day' as 'Dunkirk'.  Then fuck off. [;)]




Politesub53 -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:43:43 PM)

Does anyone who wants rid of the Royals have an alternative, viable or otherwise ?

Who should be head of state, Rooney, Gazza, Mandelson, Geldoff....... We need to have someone and I would appreciate a few ideas.....





RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:44:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

[quote ] ORIGINAL: After D-Day? Inexplicably? What the fuck are you on? [/quote ]

*Sigh*.  What I was 'on' was mixing up D-Day with the withdrawal of the expeditionary forces in May and June of fucking 1940.  I'm fucking sorry about that.  It happens because the action took place in around Dunkirk. 

All the rest of what you said there relates to events post 1944, that is, after D-
Day.  Please re-read my fucking post, but now reading 'D-Day' as 'Dunkirk'.  Then fuck off. [;)]


Your complete hash-up of Dunkirk, a.k.a. Operation Dynamo wasn't by any small measure the least inaccuracy in your pig's afterbirth of a post.

Operation Sea Lion isn't post 1944, nor were the "second phase" plans, nor was the Battle Of Britain, and your inference of "crumbling should we be invaded" is the worst kind of ill-informed tosh.

I would respectfully submit, sir, that you need to a) go learn something about the history of your own country and b) go boil your head. But in that order or it won't work. No head boiling first or you’ll learn nothing, old sport.

I remain, sir, your esteemed servant, Mr R. Fugue, Esq.




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:46:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Does anyone who wants rid of the Royals have an alternative, viable or otherwise ?


Yes, simple. Parliamentary republic. Prime minister/president as figurehead. Written constitution so Plod don't keep taking so many diabolical Berties.

Sorted.

Oh, and no expensive, inbred loafers.




PeonForHer -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:53:14 PM)

quote:

Your complete hash-up of Dunkirk, a.k.a. Operation Dynamo wasn't by any small measure the least inaccuracy in your pig's afterbirth of a post.

Operation Sea Lion isn't post 1944, nor were the "second phase" plans, nor was the Battle Of Britain, and your inference of "crumbling should we be invaded" is the worst kind of ill-informed tosh.

I would respectfully submit, sir, that you need to a) go learn something about the history of your own country and b) go boil your head. But in that order or it won't work. No head boiling first or you’ll learn nothing, old sport.

I remain, sir, your esteemed servant, Mr R. Fugue, Esq.



Look, you utter cretin - you yourself wittered on about the Battle of Britain, etc, etc.  Of course these weren't post 1944.   All I saw of your post was that you'd gone on about events that weren't relevant to my comment.  That's why I took that line out of my post.  I started thinking more about your own post and suddenly realised that I didn't know what you were on.

And, yep, we really were in no fit state to fight against a full invasion in 1939.  This was why Neville Chamberlain worked so hard to appease Hitler.  Now, kindly go away and do some research on exactly what the position was re our defences in 1939.  And then try, a second time, to read my post.  Old sport. 




Politesub53 -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:55:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Does anyone who wants rid of the Royals have an alternative, viable or otherwise ?


Yes, simple. Parliamentary republic. Prime minister/president as figurehead. Written constitution so Plod don't keep taking so many diabolical Berties.

Sorted.

Oh, and no expensive, inbred loafers.


I dont see what harm having a Monarchy does, far better in my eyes than a President Blair ruling the roost. As for a written constitution, we have much of that already.




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 5:58:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Look, you utter cretin

...

And, yep, we really were in no fit state to fight against a full invasion in 1939.  This was why Neville Chamberlain worked so hard to appease Hitler.  Now, kindly go away and do some research on exactly what the position was re our defences in 1939.  And then try, a second time, to read my post.  Old sport. 


There was little threat of invasion in 1939. For very well understood reasons. Chamberlain's appeasement had very little to do with our military readiness at that time.

You really should go do your research because you're making yourself look exceedingly silly, and popping multiple personal insults into the mix is just making it worse.




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 6:00:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
I dont see what harm having a Monarchy does, far better in my eyes than a President Blair ruling the roost. As for a written constitution, we have much of that already.


The monarchy are an expensive ... what's the word for something that's a turd, but instead of being free it costs you millions? One of those, in any case.

If you don't like the current president you can vote him/her out the next time round. And they don't cost anywhere near as much.

And we have nothing of a constitution at present.




Politesub53 -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 6:04:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

what's the word for something that's a turd, but instead of being free it costs you millions?


A footballer.




RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 6:05:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

what's the word for something that's a turd, but instead of being free it costs you millions?


A footballer.


Absolutely superb, 10/10 - laughed my freaking arse off [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 7:10:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

You really should go do your research because you're making yourself look exceedingly silly, and popping multiple personal insults into the mix is just making it worse.


Really?  After you called me a 'fool'?  And recommended that I read 'any books', including Alice in Wonderland ?  And boil my head? 

Let's tone it down, RF.  Here is an article that you might like to read: http://leavis.tripod.com/ww2.html

Please read that.  It goes into some detail on the ins and outs of the appeasement policy, our military readiness, Chamberlain's fear of war, and the bulk of the other relevant points.  These are all things that I'm sure we've both researched at various points in the past - but nothing wrong with a bit of a refresher course. 

Now, may I suggest that we stop with the insulting, blustering and general silliness?   I especially don't want things to descend into some daft 'my-dick's-bigger'-than-yours' thing re educational qualifications, as these things so often do, here.






RapierFugue -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 7:36:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

You really should go do your research because you're making yourself look exceedingly silly, and popping multiple personal insults into the mix is just making it worse.


Now, may I suggest that we stop with the insulting, blustering and general silliness?   I especially don't want things to descend into some daft 'my-dick's-bigger'-than-yours' thing re educational qualifications, as these things so often do, here.



What's funny is that article, highly subjective and not especially accurate though it is, doesn't actually support the wording of you OP very well.

But whatever. I'm not fussed, so yeah, fine.




PeonForHer -> RE: Young Man and Woman to Get Married - UK Rejoices! (11/19/2010 8:12:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

What's funny is that article, highly subjective and not especially accurate though it is, doesn't actually support the wording of you OP very well.

But whatever. I'm not fussed, so yeah, fine.



Well, historians are like economists: you want two different versions of a story, just find two historians.  This one had a fairly impressive bibliography, anyway.  There are some twenty books and articles to look at there, if required.  Some of the best-known names amongst historians stick out.  To me, it did support what I was saying (though not in the OP, as you say, which was a poll, anyway) but, again, interpretations differ of the same events.  Or so I hear.  I'm not a historian, I'm a political scientist.




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