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anniezz338 -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 5:23:01 PM)
wonder...well yea a little I AM SO KIDDING!! I have utmost respect for the home team. Always :)

catize -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 5:32:07 PM)
quote: I was thinking in a more general sense. More in a recognition of the position maybe. What 'position' would that be? The one where they show their ass?

Awareness -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 5:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catize What 'position' would that be? The one where they show their ass? I endorse this idea.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 8:15:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 It's ok Lockit,...we can't pic our relatives ROFL! Seriously, no blame for that but kudos for actually admitting to it, I think I would prefer to be hung, drawn and quartered... Mind you, I had a pet rat who looked remarkably like him but I sill loved the critter... I don't discriminate... There is a resemblance but the rat boy was definitely cuter (and possibly more clever) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2803632314_5e25242d84.jpg

Lockit -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 8:32:52 PM)
ROFLMAO!

hematitan -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 8:52:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 I generally treat people with respect unless they give me a reason not to. So, general respect does not have to be earned. To me, there's a difference between respecting someone and treating them with respect. Respect isn't something I can consciously control -- either I respect a person, I don't respect them, or I don't know them well enough to have an opinion. Regardless, respect has to be earned. It's not something that can be demanded. But I think almost everyone deserves to be treated with respect, which I think is more about just being polite, conducting yourself well, and not being an asshole. I try to treat everyone with respect unless they're doing/saying something really offensive, because it's the right thing to do. I might not actually respect them as a person, though. But I don't think disagreeing with someone or debating with them is the same as not treating them with respect. I can disagree with someone in a respectful way, and sometimes, I can disagree with someone and still have respect for them.

anniezz338 -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 9:24:25 PM)
Hi, yes, I think we have all been in situations that we don't actually respect the person, but social politics and politeness seem to balance it out. I can respect that they may think a certain way I don't....but there have been situations where I just have to say "so we agree to disagree" and go on to another topic. Being at least civil is up there for me. I can't think of a situation where true uglyness to a person is warranted.

KatyLied -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 9:29:26 PM)
quote: I can't think of a situation where true uglyness to a person is warranted. When people are ugly to you it is okay to give them ugly back. Expression can be freeing. Sometimes the high road is not the way to go.

WolfyMontgomery -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 9:31:47 PM)
Fast reply, because my eBook thingy doesn't like multiple windows. As for that President versus Dom comparison, anyone can claim to be Dominant, its a personality trait. Someone who claims to be President on the other hand either got appointed into that position because earned that title(or cheated and stole a bunch of votes but still given to him), someone who wasn't given that title and legal position, will either be laughed at, arrested for treason, or put into a nuthouse. There is a VERY big difference between being Dominant, and being the President... Replace the term Dom with Writer, or Artist for example, it is what the person is, a personality trait, not a state of office or an authorative job like a police officer or a manager that you happen to work under. So would you show deference or extra respect to someone who identified as... a Bookworm? Why with someone who identifies as a Dominant person who you aren't in a relationship with, or who you haven't agreed to submit to? It'd be like submitting and showing deference to EVERY person you happen to meet, on the off chance that they might be Dominant.

AquaticSub -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/20/2010 10:41:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post. Nobody gets my respect simply because they happen to prefer/thrive in being in charge in their relationships. My owner expects my respect to be awarded on more than a personality trait or relationship preference. Edited to add: I want to address your point about a dominant being "out of line". If someone, regardless of their orientation, is being out of line with me they are disrespecting me and, by extension, disrespecting him. Why in the world would I tolerate, or he expect me to tolerate, someone disrespecting both myself and him? I am to take care of what is his - including myself.

wandersalone -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 6:29:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? grins...ok I only just read the OP.... I just want to say I hope you were wearing a flak jacket Anniezz edited to add - ok I have read all of the posts. Annie I can kind of see where you are coming from however the difficulty, especially in an online forum is that a person can become a dominant or master simply by clicking one button. It doesn't actually mean they are one, it doesn't mean they have any experience, it doesn't mean that they have a good reputation and so on. In real life, when I attend kink events I treat everyone with courtesy and there are some that I respect, those that I know or know of within the scene who are known for being a good person. Whether they are a dominant, slave, owner or alien doesn't matter. The respect I accord to them is no different. However online is a totally different thing. Read the introduction threads every day for a week. Read some of the posts by so called dominants or masters and tell me whether you feel they should have your respect simply because of the honorific they have given themselves. What I like about the forums on CM is that everyone gets a chance to participate in discussions so it leads to interesting and often opposing view points and lots of healthy (and sometimes not so healthy debate). I don't know about you but I learn so much from reading the views and experiences of everyone. I don't believe that I am any less submissive for answering questions in the Ask a Master section in the same way that I don't believe that seeing a d-type make a post in the Ask a Submissive section makes them any less dominant. and I love the irony that once again most of the responders in this section are s types

Musicmystery -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 7:46:03 AM)
anniezz338, Some see independence as grabbing every opportunity to demonstrate to others they may do and will do as they please. Others see simple courtesy as part of one's nature, not an obeisance to other posters. Ego is a powerful force, as is the cover of the keyboard. All one can do is what many do--stop coming. Live well.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 7:59:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? I mean, yes, I understand someone who isn't your Dom telling you to go do corner time would be out of line. And I may be off base saying this, but I would see my Dom expecting me to show some respect to other Doms, even if they get out of line, I can still just walk away. It didn't even cross my mind to respond to "Question for Masters Only!" post. A man who has mastered himself will not be easily distracted by posts that are off of the topic he wishes to put forth. Remember how both Reagan and Clinton stayed "on message" all the time? Whatever you might think of their politics, they were experts at handling press conferences, and at surviving potentially career-ending scandals. In a sense, this is a "problem" that solves itself. The "true" masters don't care who posts where, and the attention-whore "masters" reveal themselves by scolding the disgracefully uppity subs who dared to speak out of line.

Musicmystery -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 8:22:26 AM)
You are talking about the behavior of the men; she is asking about the behavior of the submissives.

LadyHugs -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 8:27:41 AM)
Wandersalone, In your posting #51, I am not surprised that more submissives are responding, as it is a fact it affects/effects submissives more than any Master. I am not seeing much to disagree with, as reflected in the previous postings from submissives. I can only speak for myself, that when a Dominant/Master 'goes off' --they embarrass themselves. It acts as a filter though when you watch and track individuals for a while, online or off-line/real time. Other questions I would have in my mind, would be a wonder if they were bi-polar or, just having a really rough day. With these times of financial struggles--it can make many a sound mind snap when in the downslide of it all. Or, is the individual being harassed or such, online...family problems, a break up... The Internet, because of the barrier between individuals, often permits individuals to behave freely/loosely. However, this can be a tool as to find individuals to whom you wouldn't mind meeting -- even if it is over a cup of tea, coffee, hot chocolate (in the winter especially) and just talk. Networking is just as important as finding a 'match.' I find that I am in agreement, with the posters that being submissive doesn't mean you are an unpaid maid, slave, serving all because of a 'title.' Yet, I can't help stress for both Dominant and submissive types, to be in a kind exchange. Courtesy/respect goes a very long way, especially if it is not a 'forced' behavior or temporary. Just some thoughts. Respectfully, Lady Hugs

RedMagic1 -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 8:28:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery You are talking about the behavior of the men; she is asking about the behavior of the submissives. ...on the Ask a Master board. I'll allow submissives to speak for themselves. I chose to respond in my capacity as a TRUE horny net geek.

DesFIP -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 8:36:46 AM)
Anniezz, if your master wants you to submit to other men, so be it. Mine however does not want me to. We're monogamous and that includes submission. I submit to one and one only. So if I followed your rules and groveled at the feet of everyone who claimed he was a true dominant then I would be disobeying a direct order from my dominant. Not to mention that if I get to judge who is a true dominant at whose feet I should kneel, there would be damned few. And as others have said, they would be totally the men here who don't want women they don't own to submit to them. Because they value the submission given to them a lot more than if it's passed around to every other man. So submitting to them would not make them happy, instead the opposite since I'm not in a relationship with them. It's like running into a thrift store and buying a two dollar raincoat when you get caught out. It works, it's serviceable and you would have no problem tossing into the car trunk for other rainy days or giving it to a friend. But if you spend several hundred on a new Burberry you will care for it more and not want it to get stained with oil.

BurntKitty -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 9:30:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myotherself ~fast reply~ I give respect where it's earned. I couldn't give a flying fart if the sticky label you're wearing says dom, sub or grand high poobah. Act like a decent human being and you will have my respect. Act like an ass and I'll treat you like an ass. Works in real-life too. edited for typo Between flying bunny farts... quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Sorry. I shot my wad there. And DS shooting his wad, I feel a case of the vapors comin' on.... :swoons: OP: I generally try to be courteous, (or silly at times) regardless of which side of the flogger someone identifies with.

leadership527 -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 10:24:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 But, overall, isn't there a certain respect to TRUE Masters/Doms in general in the community? That depends. If you think, as I do, that respect is earned, then no. If I post here and someone answers in a disrespectful way, then I have to assume that I have not earned their respect. I'm not looking for any handouts. If, you think as others do, that respect is something that is given out freely AND if you are respect roles moreso than people (interestingly, a concept more attuned to Russian culture than US culture) AND if you think that the dom role is such a role, then yes. Honestly, that second sort of respect is utterly worthless to me. It gets me nothing other than pretty words when I happen to be present and listening. The person who gave me this respect themselves placed a value of zero on it. I value it the same way. To me, it is the facade of respect, not actual respect.

sunshinemiss -> RE: Masters only below, submissive behavior and being submissive (11/21/2010 2:17:04 PM)
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