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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 10:18:36 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Its not just a hard line against Catholics that you take, rml. Based upon your obvious hatred toward that one church, you paint all religions with the same brush. Not all religions practice that. But it is obvious that symbolism is lost on you.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 10:22:35 AM   
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Its not just a hard line against Catholics that you take, rml. Based upon your obvious hatred toward that one church, you paint all religions with the same brush. Not all religions practice that. But it is obvious that symbolism is lost on you.


No, I'm very open minded about thinking all religions are full of shit.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 10:35:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thats not open minded. Thats prejudicial in the extreme.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 10:37:41 AM   
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I was only asking you to elaborate.


You also shut the door on any answers, pointing out your knowledge of Unitarianism.

Surely you've come across the slew of good-natured jokes about Unitarian agnosticism. Like facing a crossroads between paths labeled "heaven" and "discussion of heaven," Unitarians choose the discussion?

Or perhaps it's the meaning of agnostic that's the barrier--far from atheist, this is simply acknowledging the lack of knowledge; nothing about that would interfere with an agnostic religion.

http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/agnostic-religion-faq.htm

I simply don't want to debate definitions.

Take from that what you will.


No, I did not shut the door.  I only mentioned my ex in-laws were Unitarian.  Which only gave me some basic knowledge of their beliefs.

I never proclaimed myself to be knowledgeable regarding it, you jumped to that conclusion.

All I did was ask a question, which for some reason seems to have offended you.

And I will ask it again, because your link did not provide an answer.

How are you equating Unitarian beliefs with agnostics or atheists?



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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 10:48:01 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Not offended, just noting the likely pointlessness. I should have just let it go.

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How are you equating Unitarian beliefs with agnostics or atheists?

With atheists, not at all. With agnosticism, I've already answered this question. And I'm not "equating," just noting the fact.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Surely you've come across the slew of good-natured jokes about Unitarian agnosticism. Like facing a crossroads between paths labeled "heaven" and "discussion of heaven," Unitarians choose the discussion?

Or perhaps it's the meaning of agnostic that's the barrier--far from atheist, this is simply acknowledging the lack of knowledge; nothing about that would interfere with an agnostic religion.

http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/agnostic-religion-faq.htm



The question people asked was about the possibility of agnostic religion (vs. atheist). The link covers this well.

Have a look.


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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:03:24 AM   
rulemylife


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Status: offline 		I already had a look, and it may answer it in your mind but it doesn't in mine.

In fact, the article does not even mention Unitarians.

But let's get back to talking about whether Unitarians are agnostic.



Unitarian Universalism


The religious pluralism of Unitarian Universalism respects diverse traditions within the movement and often within the same congregation. Many see it as a typical syncretic religion, in which personal beliefs and religious services draw from many faith traditions.

Unitarian Universalism asserts a strong commitment to social justice and community exploration of spiritual development.

Unlike traditional Christians, Unitarian Universalists assert no theology. Unitarian Universalists believe that the divine can be found in all people and in many faiths.
Unitarian Universalists draw inspiration from a variety of other faith traditions.

Many Unitarian Universalist churches celebrate observances associated with other religious traditions, including Buddhist-style meditation groups, Jewish Seder, Yom Kipur and Passover dinners, iftaar meals (marking the breaking of Ramadan fast for Muslims), and Christmas Eve/Winter Solstice services.

Children's religious education classes teach about the divinity of the world and the sanctity of world religions. One of its more popular curricula, Neighboring Faiths (formerly Church Across the Street), takes middle and high school participants to visit the places of worship of many faith traditions including a Hindu temple, a Reform or Orthodox synagogue, and a Catholic church.



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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:24:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		And it's definition debate time. Sigh.

Converse--start with that definition. Note that when a premise is true, the converse is not necessarily true.

You'll have to debate the converse with someone else. Not the point I chimed in to address.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:31:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And it's definition debate time. Sigh.

Converse--start with that definition. Note that when a premise is true, the converse is not necessarily true.

You'll have to debate the converse with someone else. Not the point I chimed in to address.


The point you chimed in to address was that Unitarians were agnostic.

Now you are spouting bullshit to avoid backing your claim.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:37:57 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Nope. That agnostic religion was not a contradiction. QED.

Argue with someone else.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:43:18 AM   
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Nope. That agnostic religion was not a contradiction. QED.

Argue with someone else.


I'm still waiting for that proof, because everything I've come up with says you are wrong.

I posted one, I can post many more.

What do you have?

I mean other than the link that did not even mention what you are trying to argue.

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RE: Catholics can rejoice, the Pope says we can use con... - 11/21/2010 11:49:15 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Q. Can there be agnostic religion?
A. Yes. Here's a link on it from a philosophy reference.

Q. That's not proof.
A. Okie dokey then. You win! Congratulations!

As I said earlier, pointless. Argue with someone else.

Sorry I can't help you. I'm caught in a world where words mean what they actually mean.

It's a limitation, to be sure.


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