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I'm with Calla regarding the Libertarian party.  Tea party folks would've added enough people to make it a viable option for once.

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It's actually funnier how the term lefties has become so predominant on this board.

Especially from people who claim they are independent thinkers.

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I had such HUGE hopes for the tea party when it first emerged. Then, I noticed that the message went from 'smaller less intrusive government" to kissing the ass of the hard core religious right and they lost me.

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So the Tea Party went with the party that could help them get elected instead of the one they were more aligned with.. So much for integrity...

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re religious righ

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So the Tea Party went with the party that could help them get elected instead of the one they were more aligned with.. So much for integrity...

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What's the tea party's position on Dick Cheney getting us into an illegal war and getting the government to spend billions of dollars in taxes to his old corporation Halliburton? They don't like big government but they don't seem to mind that.

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Does anyone recall the very beginnings of the tea party movement and how it was tax reform based only? Sad to see how much it's changed.

It seems once it began to actually gain support and attention, conservatives then infiltrated the movement and inserted their own agendas. They couldn't have someone outdoing them, of course.

Needless to say, it was easy to see this movement would be captured and redirected, even to a fault, by the conservative group.

And right on cue...

Social conservatives plan ways to advance their agenda via Tea Party-backed candidates.

"The GOP won all statewide races on the ballot in Kansas for the first time since 1964. Republicans picked up 16 seats in the state House, giving the GOP an overwhelming 92-33 advantage.

Abortion opponents now plan to make the state as close to an abortion-free zone as possible. Proposed measures would impose new regulations for clinics, restrictions on late-term procedures and increased reporting requirements for physicians. Vetoes by outgoing Democratic Gov. Mark Parkinson and his predecessors blocked such action in the past.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lance Kinzer, who serves on Brownback's transition team, said action against embryonic stem cell research and to allow "covenant" marriages, which are harder to dissolve than standard marriages, are likely to be considered, too.

"There's a lot of unfinished business out there, isn't there?" Kinzer said."

But I am sure they are all really just fiscal conservatives who identify with the principal of a smaller, less intrusive central government...which has the power to force you to carry a pregnancy to term and deny you a divorce.

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Lefty: Yes I did. That sucks. Did you know 6 years ago VP Dick Cheney went around congress and pushed us into a war and as a consequence made billions of dollars for the company he used to run, Halliburton?

I am curious as to which other company you would have preferred.  Which other company had the same resources and capabilities? 

Most of what Haliburton was paid to do the US armed forces used to do and do more cheaply than Haliburton. I'm fairly confidant privates can still steal peel potatoes, clean latrines and do laundry.

But civilian employees are not trained, nor required to fight wars, nor put their "lives and sacred honor" in harm's way.

Which is the point of civilian support of military forces: allowing soldiers to do what they are trained to do.

Firm

And the independent Government Accountability Office concluded that Halliburton was the only company that could have provided the services the Army needed at the outset of the war and was thus justified in having received the noncompetitive contract.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/06/politics/campaign/06fact.html 

As far as not being put in harm's way. . . has everyone forgotten the Baghdad incident? 

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Lefty: Yes I did. That sucks. Did you know 6 years ago VP Dick Cheney went around congress and pushed us into a war and as a consequence made billions of dollars for the company he used to run, Halliburton?

I am curious as to which other company you would have prefered.  Which other company had the same resources and capabilities? 

Most of what Haliburton was paid to do the US armed forces used to do and do more cheaply than Haliburton. I'm fairly confidant privates can still steal peel potatoes, clean latrines and do laundry.

But civilian employees are not trained, nor required to fight wars, nor put their "lives and sacred honor" in harm's way.

Which is the point of civilian support of military forces: allowing soldiers to do what they are trained to do.

Firm

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And thanks to Treasure, for the find, and you for the thread, Firm. I'll be passing that one on.

It's interesting how many lefties and liberals are completely incompetent to discuss conservative thought, unless they are allowed to tell us what we think, and go from there, and even when get away with that, they must keep demonization close at hand.

Satire frightens them, and that's funny to me.

It's actually funnier how the term lefties has become so predominant on this board.

Especially from people who claim they are independent thinkers.

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Lefty: Yes I did. That sucks. Did you know 6 years ago VP Dick Cheney went around congress and pushed us into a war and as a consequence made billions of dollars for the company he used to run, Halliburton?

I am curious as to which other company you would have prefered.  Which other company had the same resources and capabilities? 

Most of what Haliburton was paid to do the US armed forces used to do and do more cheaply than Haliburton. I'm fairly confidant privates can still steal peel potatoes, clean latrines and do laundry.

But civilian employees are not trained, nor required to fight wars, nor put their "lives and sacred honor" in harm's way.

Which is the point of civilian support of military forces: allowing soldiers to do what they are trained to do.

Firm

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True conversation between a "lefty" (myself) and a "conservative" Tea party head (my coworker).

Conservative: Did you know that the same guy who used to run Homeland Security, this guy Michael Chertoff, was hired by the same damn company that sells those scanners to the TSA, they need to grope grandmothers, because they are too damn afraid to profile!!! WE KNOW WHO THE DAMN TERRORISTS ARE!

Lefty: Yes I did. That sucks. Did you know 6 years ago VP Dick Cheney went around congress and pushed us into a war and as a consequence made billions of dollars for the company he used to run, Halliburton?

Conservative: That's bullshit and this conversation is over.