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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And nothing's going to happen until we get the population down by a couple billion. The "global warmers" have totally overlooked that problem.
Yet, our govt is using our money to feed hundreds of millions of people in foreign countries.
More people equals more polution.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Give it up, Ken. By turning an environmental theory into a vehicle to try and impose a completely unrelated social agenda, you destroyed the credibilty of all those who actually gave a crap.

It's no good trying to sound rational now, not when you personally equated questions with holocaust denial.

You killed Mother Earth! How does that make you feel?

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And nothing's going to happen until we get the population down by a couple billion. The "global warmers" have totally overlooked that problem.
Yet, our govt is using our money to feed hundreds of millions of people in foreign countries.
More people equals more polution.

It must be so soothing to your conscience to be able to think of those hundreds of millions as useless chattel. I'm glad that there are a lot of people who have a slightly more compassionate view of our fellow human beings...as much as it hurts to think about them starving while we stuff ourselves with turkey and sweet potatoes. But you, not giving a shit about them, obviously raise your fork to your chipmunk cheeks with a big 'fuck you' to the Third World.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And nothing's going to happen until we get the population down by a couple billion. The "global warmers" have totally overlooked that problem.
Yet, our govt is using our money to feed hundreds of millions of people in foreign countries.
More people equals more polution.

It must be so soothing to your conscience to be able to think of those hundreds of millions as useless chattel. I'm glad that there are a lot of people who have a slightly more compassionate view of our fellow human beings...as much as it hurts to think about them starving while we stuff ourselves with turkey and sweet potatoes. But you, not giving a shit about them, obviously raise your fork to your chipmunk cheeks with a big 'fuck you' to the Third World.

Takeme, it's not my job (or my govt's job) to be worrying about people in foreign countries. It (is) the job of the people in those countries and their govts to be worried about *their own* people!
The U.S. doesn't exist to be "giving" things to foreign countries especially the Taxpayer's money! (The U.S. govt. doesn't have any money.)
"Useless chattel?" They're not usefull to me or my country. Nor am I or my country useful to them unless we're sending them a foreign aid check.
"Foreign aid" doesn't work! Ninety eight percent of it is stolen! Look at Haiti, with all the money that's been poured into that country over the last 25 years it should be an island paradise! But, all the money was stolen! Look at "Baby Doc" Duvaliere when Clinton sent him to France and installed Aristede, he had a reported $675 million dollars in various banks and investments. All that money was stolen from the Taxpayers in this country and our govt did NOTHING about it! That fat *useless* bastard is living in luxury on U.S. Taxpayer Dollars! Haiti is probably one of the top three most corrupt govts in the world and people want to give them more money???
And our govt just keeps doing it! Another $45 Billion in foreign aid last year! The lawyers and lobbyists on K street in D.C. will probably grab $5 Billion of that right off the top for "helping" those govts rip off the Taxppayers!
I'm not responsable for people in foreign countries but I am responsable for helping out people in my own country which I do by giving monthly to three homeless shelters which are at "full capacity."
I'm sorry but I just don't get a thrill thinking about giving my money to people who are 6,000 liles away in some foreign country because *their govt* won't do it's job. So,... somehow (I'm) expected to pony up (my) money because because some people missed breakfast yesterday because *their govt* wasn't doing it's job??? (I'm) supposed to pick up the slack for some reason?
Foreign aid simply underwrites failure. It's very bad management, bad policy, loaded with corruption and it simply doesn't work.
I've been to about 40 or more countries, most of them shit-pits and the two things they all had in common were no rule of law and widespread corruption.
If they dealt with those two issues they'd have much better countries. But (that) is their job to do not mine.
And no, I really don't care about third and fourth world countries. Do you think they care about me? Oh they "care" about the U.S. but only when we're "giving" them something!

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And nothing's going to happen until we get the population down by a couple billion. The "global warmers" have totally overlooked that problem.
Yet, our govt is using our money to feed hundreds of millions of people in foreign countries.
More people equals more polution.

It must be so soothing to your conscience to be able to think of those hundreds of millions as useless chattel. I'm glad that there are a lot of people who have a slightly more compassionate view of our fellow human beings...as much as it hurts to think about them starving while we stuff ourselves with turkey and sweet potatoes. But you, not giving a shit about them, obviously raise your fork to your chipmunk cheeks with a big 'fuck you' to the Third World.

Takeme, it's not my job (or my govt's job) to be worrying about people in foreign countries. It (is) the job of the people in those countries and their govts to be worried about *their own* people!
The U.S. doesn't exist to be "giving" things to foreign countries especially the Taxpayer's money! (The U.S. govt. doesn't have any money.)
"Useless chattel?" They're not usefull to me or my country. Nor am I or my country useful to them unless we're sending them a foreign aid check.
"Foreign aid" doesn't work! Ninety eight percent of it is stolen! Look at Haiti, with all the money that's been poured into that country over the last 25 years it should be an island paradise! But, all the money was stolen! Look at "Baby Doc" Duvaliere when Clinton sent him to France and installed Aristede, he had a reported $675 million dollars in various banks and investments. All that money was stolen from the Taxpayers in this country and our govt did NOTHING about it! That fat *useless* bastard is living in luxury on U.S. Taxpayer Dollars! Haiti is probably one of the top three most corrupt govts in the world and people want to give them more money???
And our govt just keeps doing it! Another $45 Billion in foreign aid last year! The lawyers and lobbyists on K street in D.C. will probably grab $5 Billion of that right off the top for "helping" those govts rip off the Taxppayers!
I'm not responsable for people in foreign countries but I am responsable for helping out people in my own country which I do by giving monthly to three homeless shelters which are at "full capacity."
I'm sorry but I just don't get a thrill thinking about giving my money to people who are 6,000 liles away in some foreign country because *their govt* won't do it's job. So,... somehow (I'm) expected to pony up (my) money because because some people missed breakfast yesterday because *their govt* wasn't doing it's job??? (I'm) supposed to pick up the slack for some reason?
Foreign aid simply underwrites failure. It's very bad management, bad policy, loaded with corruption and it simply doesn't work.
I've been to about 40 or more countries, most of them shit-pits and the two things they all had in common were no rule of law and widespread corruption.
If they dealt with those two issues they'd have much better countries. But (that) is their job to do not mine.
And no, I really don't care about third and fourth world countries. Do you think they care about me? Oh they "care" about the U.S. but only when we're "giving" them something!

Have you ever considered actually aquainting yourself with your subject before you open your mouth and expose your absolute ingorance?

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

Well, that's a fine way of looking at a whole group of people who, by no fault of their own, are the victims of their corrupt governments. Blame the victim and write them off. Now I get it!

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It's not that I believe that the U.S. government's money is going to solve anyone's problems. My beef is with people who think it's OK to allow a good portion of the world to suffer and die while we enjoy our ridiculously extravagant standard of living. Personally, I am looking forward to volunteering for Doctors Without Borders (something I've wanted to do since I graduated nursing school) after my kids are out of the house. I won the lottery when I was born in America, I would like to use my life for good. My silly philosophy of life is that we were born to love and help each other. I realize that a great many Americans think that they were born simply to enjoy their own conspicuous consumption, so go enjoy your luxuries!

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I'm sure you'd be thrilled to change the terms of the discussion, Ken, but unless you are going to get on the page of talking about the damage you guys did to the rest of the environmental movement, I see no point in duplicating previous conversations where you just called me names, rather than addressing the history of climate on the planet. You also haven't left a good impression with your history of posting links, and hoping nobody will check when you tell stupid lies about what they say.

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Have you ever considered actually aquainting yourself with your subject before you open your mouth and expose your absolute ingorance?

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Have you ever considered actually aquainting yourself with your subject before you open your mouth and expose your absolute ingorance?


I love it when jerks call me ignorant because they realize what jerks they are. You cannot hide behind a bunch of statistics, you are still an unfeeling bastard.

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Have you ever considered actually aquainting yourself with your subject before you open your mouth and expose your absolute ingorance?


I love it when jerks call me ignorant because they realize what jerks they are. You cannot hide behind a bunch of statistics, you are still an unfeeling bastard.

Please go back and read my post. My comment was directed at popeye.

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ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

Well, that's a fine way of looking at a whole group of people who, by no fault of their own, are the victims of their corrupt governments. Blame the victim and write them off. Now I get it!

Takeme, I'm not "blaming" anyone. I'm saying that the U.S. shouldn't have ever gotten into the "rescue" business for foreign countries.


Have you a fucking clue as to how that happened?
Have you ever considered reading the history of "foriegn aid", how it works or who it benifits?
I have mentioned to you several times that you might want to read a book called "Confessions of an economic hit man".
Are you interested in finding out the causes and possible cures or are you content to stamp your foot and whine like a petulant child ?

In case you hadn't noticed we're not doing a real good job taking care of *our own citizens* in the U.S.

Have you made a personal commitment to help to aleviate the suffering of any of *our own citizens*?


As for the "victims of their own corrupt governments" I just don't want to espouse their cause. And that's not what our Armed Forces are for either.

So does this mean that you are now not in favor of the two wars that the man you voted for for president started?


I want my president 100% focused on the U.S. and our problems, not on foreign countries!


Is it then your position that since what happens in the rest of the world does not affect the u.s. the president should not pay any attention to foriegn affairs?

It's for *them* to overthrow their govt's not me. No wonder the world hates the U.S. with all this interfering in foreign countries.

Isn't that what you did in your career with the cg....interfering with trade between soverign nations on the high seas?

Thompson, go back to sleep!

Perhaps when you stop plastering the boards with ignorant bullshit.