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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:34:27 PM   
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How on earth is it behind their backs? If they've posted something TOS they probably know it or will find out pretty quickly when the mods send them a love note.

Announcing it is begging for attention and like the little kid going "I'm going to tell Mommy!". Do you tell your coworkers if you are going to report them to the supervisor?



That's a far opinion - I have no problem with your belief in that. But it isn't a belief I share. If I ever have need to report a co-worker to my supervisor, of course I will tell them. It's not much fun for them having to treat all their colleagues with distrust because they don't know who told tales. That seems very unfair, to me.


Distrust? If they hadn't done anything wrong, there wouldn't be an issue. Same here.


But what if they have done something wrong? And are you really saying that if you were investigated on the word of a colleague, and it turned out you were in the clear, it wouldn't bother you that you didn't know who said what, and, more importantly, why?

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By announcing it, you are making the situation worse instead of letting the mods handle it.



Maybe, but I see problems with not announcing it as well.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:34:38 PM   
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Well, I have posts of 64 persons hidden.

Humm that's a lot of disagreements.

I do not put persons on Hide for disagreeing with me.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:38:33 PM   
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But what if they have done something wrong? And are you really saying that if you were investigated on the word of a colleague, and it turned out you were in the clear, it wouldn't bother you that you didn't know who said what, and, more importantly, why?

No it wouldn't bother me. Wanna know why?

Cause it's at my job. And, like here, it's not like I am going to enact revenge. It's not like I'm going to tell a coworker or a forum person something that I don't want getting around. Particularly not anything work/forum related.

So it really doesn't matter if I know does it? It's my boss' job to deal with the employee making the false reports - not mine. Just as it's the mods' job to do it here.
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By announcing it, you are making the situation worse instead of letting the mods handle it.



Maybe, but I see problems with not announcing it as well.



Oh? Please detail. The only problem I can see is that you don't get the public attention for having reported someone.

Trust me, when you get reported on here and the moderators find fault with something, there is no great mystery as to why. The mods tell you exactly what you did wrong. The other poster really doesn't need you to tell them anything.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:38:33 PM   
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Yet - amazingly - many if not most can go the police station without announcing that they did so to everyone in the area with a bullhorn. Or stick a permanent sign on their yard that they did so - since the post where you announce your reporting will never go away unless a mod yanks the thread.



I don't think it is exactly as you describe it. Most people outside the thread will be unaware there was a problem. And my experience, where action has been taken, is that the Mods remove every trace of a dispute.

We are not going to agree, are we?

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:39:46 PM   
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Well, I have posts of 64 persons hidden.

Humm that's a lot of disagreements.

I do not put persons on Hide for disagreeing with me.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:42:09 PM   
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Most people outside the thread will be unaware there was a problem.


Until you start another thread about it, and people post links to the threads where you are mistreated/mistreat others.  Then we all have to participate in your public humiliation kink.  I think most are getting used to it.


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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:42:25 PM   
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Yet - amazingly - many if not most can go the police station without announcing that they did so to everyone in the area with a bullhorn. Or stick a permanent sign on their yard that they did so - since the post where you announce your reporting will never go away unless a mod yanks the thread.



I don't think it is exactly as you describe it. Most people outside the thread will be unaware there was a problem. And my experience, where action has been taken, is that the Mods remove every trace of a dispute.

We are not going to agree, are we?



I think you are severely underestimating how many people read these threads and don't comment on them and how much we forum folk chat off the threads - and how many threads get rezzed.

The mods do not always remove every trace of a dispute - I have found that to be rare in my experience actually. I would suspect, based off my years here, that if they are doing so in your cases your actions have something to do with it as well as the others.

Of course I could be wrong and I apologize to the moderators if I am.


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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:49:30 PM   
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Umm? Could you repeat that in Dutch, please?

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 2:52:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		hertz, like you I used to announce it on the forums when I put someone on Hide, as it seemed the responsible way to act and since I most certainly would not want to correspond with such persons privately. However, I stopped doing so when one of the mods indicated to me that it was not appreciated. Learn from that anecdote.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 3:04:23 PM   
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hertz, like you I used to announce it on the forums when I put someone on Hide, as it seemed the responsible way to act and since I most certainly would not want to correspond with such persons privately. However, I stopped doing so when one of the mods indicated to me that it was not appreciated. Learn from that anecdote.


It would be great if that advice was in a sticky somewhere. Then I wouldn't have made that particular error of etiquette... Thanks for telling me.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 3:30:53 PM   
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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 3:43:50 PM   
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Get yourself a website on your own buck.  A domain name is a few bucks and paying for a server is minimal too.

You can run the show anyway you would liket to.

http://www.thesitewizard.com/gettingstarted/startwebsite.shtml

If you don't want to start your own little thing, maybe you ought to go find a debate forum that runs on Robert's Rules or something similar.

You have just lost a lot of ceditability with this this whole thread.

I am pleased someone found your tattling posts. I was looking for it last night.



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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 3:47:00 PM   
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Hertz,

Get yourself a website on your own buck.  A domain name is a few bucks and paying for a server is minimal too.

You can run the show anyway you would liket to.

http://www.thesitewizard.com/gettingstarted/startwebsite.shtml

If you don't want to start your own little thing, maybe you ought to go find a debate forum that runs on Robert's Rules or something similar.

You have just lost a lot of ceditability with this this whole thread.

I am pleased someone found your tattling posts. I was looking for it last night.





Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to bear it in mind.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 4:23:32 PM   
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I adore name calling.  My favorite is being called a dirty whore, while my hair is twisted in his fingers and he is dragging my head towards his rock hard dick, saying suck this you dirty whore.  Filthy cunt works for me also.

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yuck-Dr Phil.  I would rather have a root canal with no novacaine than spend 5 minutes with that ....uh.....whatever he is.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 4:26:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		hertz, why do you care about what faceless names on the internet call you?  Laugh and move on.  It really has no affect on your life, unless you allow it to.

If you allow it to, that is a whole nuther kettle of fish.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 4:28:13 PM   
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Yet - amazingly - many if not most can go the police station without announcing that they did so to everyone in the area with a bullhorn. Or stick a permanent sign on their yard that they did so - since the post where you announce your reporting will never go away unless a mod yanks the thread.



I don't think it is exactly as you describe it. Most people outside the thread will be unaware there was a problem. And my experience, where action has been taken, is that the Mods remove every trace of a dispute.

We are not going to agree, are we?



I think you are severely underestimating how many people read these threads and don't comment on them and how much we forum folk chat off the threads - and how many threads get rezzed.

The mods do not always remove every trace of a dispute - I have found that to be rare in my experience actually. I would suspect, based off my years here, that if they are doing so in your cases your actions have something to do with it as well as the others.

Of course I could be wrong and I apologize to the moderators if I am.

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The only time ive seen threads yanked is when the thread mentions illegal or violates tos in a gross way such as talking about the unmentionable topics. Otherwise they will lock the thread or edit it as necessary, the only time they yank it is when tos has been grossly violated.




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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 4:39:51 PM   
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hertz, why do you care about what faceless names on the internet call you?  Laugh and move on.  It really has no affect on your life, unless you allow it to.

If you allow it to, that is a whole nuther kettle of fish.


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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 4:56:24 PM   
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He does this repeatedly (including strong swear words) but has reported others for using sometimes milder words like “idiot” as he did to DCWoody in this old thread I hit upon by accident http://www.collarchat.com/m_3443100/mpage_1/tm.htm – if name calling is to be treated seriously by mods it should not be used as a weapon to silence opposition, especially over real legitimate debate.


You mean here - http://www.collarchat.com/m_3443100/mpage_1/tm.htm# - post 14? Right where it says this?

Yes, although DCWoody's post is number 15 and you then reported him in post number 17.

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Hertz you are an idiot.


So, by your reckoning, it's perfectly OK for me to call you a retard? Is that what you are saying? Somehow, and it might well be me, I'm not convinced by this. I even tried it a few times and called someone a dribbler, but you know what? It just doesn't seem right..

Thanks for fitting in another insult under the cover of making a point. I did not say it is OK to call someone a 'tard or whatever. I referred to double standards in my post and was citing the above as an example. You have name called worse than that too as I'm sure you know. The point is that you cannot repeatedly complain about name calling (not only on this thread) when you also engage in it quite a bit yourself. It smacks of hypocracy and that perhaps is in part why you have got little sympathy on this thread.

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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 5:15:42 PM   
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The only time ive seen threads yanked is when the thread mentions illegal or violates tos in a gross way such as talking about the unmentionable topics. Otherwise they will lock the thread or edit it as necessary, the only time they yank it is when tos has been grossly violated.





There are other ways to get a thread yanked but those are, IMHE, the most common ways. I believe the OP is referring to thread 'cleaning' which, in my experience, is still less common than not - It's my experience that it's much more common to see a mod warning or a few posts removed than to have all traces scrubbed away. So if it's happening with his disputes frequently, kinda makes me wonder.


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RE: Name-calling - forbidden, or fun? - 12/5/2010 9:14:55 PM   
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No you cannot delete it. It will stand as a reminder for future generations about the hypocrisy that lies in so many of us.


I am glad that you fucked yourself. I don't like the pic of you playing your guitar, it's stupid.

Does this reply infringe the TOS?




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I imagine so. But if you really need to ask that question, I think your 'dominant' status may need serious examination. Are you sure you're not some sort of pussy?


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