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CreativeDominant -> RE: Why are Conservative's on Collarme? (12/7/2010 7:18:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: Charles6682
This post dosen't apply to Libertarian's or fiscal conservative's. So that means it applies to those who consider themselves conservative in at least some of the social strata. quote:
What I wonder is why are so called "social-conservative's" even on this website? How many have you found, Charles? How many conservatives on here stand up and state "I am a Social Conservative as well as a fiscal conservative? Not too many, from what I recall.
Here's a surprise for you...some of us conservatives don't take kindly to every plank on the conservative platform. Horrors! Just as some liberals don't approve of Obama's too fast/too slow swing to socialism. Horrors!! Yes, Charles...even the conservatives are not some mono-minded, robotic followers. Some of us embrace all aspects of social conservatism and some do not. One example. I do embrace the "traditional, socially conservative" view that there has to be a leader in a relationship dynamic. ((Ironically, so do the many "liberal" male dominants on here. Does that now make them socially conservative...since they embrace the idea that someone should lead a relationship and, horror of horrors, in their mind it should be them (a man)?)) Yet, I support abortion. GASP!!! But, so you don't need to be brought back from cardiac arrest...I support abortion with limitations, as spelled out by me on other threads. Another example. I don't care if Jim wants to fuck Joe or if Judy wants to fist Sheila...go for it. If they want to form a union and live together, go for it. I DO think fighting the church is not going to get homosexuals or bisexuals anywhere. Too much influence of all churches over society and too much adherence to THEIR traditions or beliefs. Work at forcing the government to be what it states it is...all-inclusive, including gay rights. But, I find the military to be a separate entity from a typical corporate structure. While the non-military workplace should be non-discriminatory, the military should be what works best as decided by those who LIVE and work within that structure. quote:
The Sarah Palin loving crowd would probaly be shocked to find out she would probaly find you to be a sinner.The far right holy roller's you people vote for find this lifestyle to be a evil sin. Only us? Is that why a liberal D. A. in New York almost made it her "mission" to ensure that a woman could NOT consent to any form of physical assault, including that which occurs within BDSM play? I could care less what Sarah Palin or Barack Obama or anyone in politics thinks about what I do in my personal life as I care little what others consent to in their personal life. Little...not no concern, especially when what they do might cost ME but that is fiscal conservatism, not social conservatism. quote:
That's who control's a good part of the Republican party.They want to tell you what's best for you in your personal life. There've already been some good examples of how liberals want to run your life...let me reiterate my own example of the D. A. and add in...transfat police, toilet paper police (hello, Sheryl Crow), carbon footprint police governing your use of energy (hello, Al Gore) and health insurance police (hello to the crowd that wants to insist that I carry insurance on my children until they are 26 even though my children...and I am sure the children of many others here...have been telling me repeatedly since they were 18, and more so since they hit 21, that they are an adult and don't NEED to follow my instructions or lessons or guidance).quote:
Redeem yourself now!You really want someone like Sarah Palin to ruin,I mean,run this country?Everyone has a right to believe or not believe anything they want.Just don't try and shove your belief's on me. Then you might want to speak to Obama, Gore, Michael Moore, Sheryl Crowe, Al Franken and others within your own party.quote:
I wouldn't vote for someone who view's the White House as a tool to force their belief's on the rest of the country.Again,why are social conservative's on Collarme?
If you voted for Obama and the rest of the Democratic slate...you already DID vote for those who want to force their beliefs on you...because they know what is best for you, what is best for society.
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From DomYngBlk: I think sexy Sarah would call you a RINO...Republican in name only. You don't sound very conservative....at least socially.
I don't actually care what Sarah would think of me socially. And in addition, while Sarah may appeal to many on the right, she does not appeal to all of us simply because to some of us...her actions don't match up with her mouth in all cases. One final note...RINO is usually a term reserved for those who claim to be conservative while following a progressive agenda. Those republicans who always vote the democratic line because the position of the right is just "wrong", etc.
Surprise, surprise...as I stated in my original post, not all of us on the conservative side think the same. In fact, we are just like progressives/liberals/Democrats in that way. While there are some on the left who don't think that Obama has moved far enough or fast enough to take the country to a position further left...there are those on the left who KNOW he has tried to move it too far and who disagree with that movement. In their minds, the country has moved far enough left. These are the ones often referred to as moderate Democrats or even...in some corners of the left...as CONSERVATIVE Democrats.
What I find unusual is that not one liberal has stepped up...especially Charles...to defend any of the repressions of the left or to prove that they do not exist. All Charles can do is come on and equate every single conservative to Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. They can call themselves conservatives and...in their way...they are. But to reiterate, since some here do not seem to get it, not all conservatives are in their camps.
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